If he had got the team to a completely achievable 10th/11th and won the trophy then we wouldnt be having this discussion because he'd be in charge next season. If he losses his job, he has nobody to blame but himself. Setting up to beat teams like Leicester at home was completely plausible, instead we were embarrassing and that is on him.
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If he had got the team to a completely achievable 10th/11th and won the trophy then we wouldnt be having this discussion because he'd be in charge next season. If he losses his job, he has nobody to blame but himself. Setting up to beat teams like Leicester at home was completely plausible, instead we were embarrassing and that is on him.
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Yes.
Things carried on for a long time in a terrible state with Ange, and with the majority of fans being Ange Out, but if you were still Ange In by the middle of this season, you'd already excused a whole stack of inexcusable performances, so what's one more?
This is how you end up in 17th place with many supporters arguing that there's simply no way you can sack the manager who did it.
Yes - and if I remember that season we also suffered quite a few injuries.
But my reference to Poch having a better squad was not just about that season or even just about that cl campaign.
Also Poch was/is a much better manager than Postecoglou full stop. But he still won fuck all so I'm claiming the Postecoglou era as an outstanding success thank you very much and wishing him all the best in the future
The era is a failure ... the cup is a huge success, he's Ramos on steroids. Football is weird and it doesn't surprise me that the guy who couldn't deliver a team to be proud of every week is the one to break our duck. It's just our lot that we can't have it all.
I fully believe Pochettino could have won the cup if he didn't focus on the bigger prizes. The EL was always a sideshow to him, he rested players in it for the league. Maybe that was his mistake. If he'd won that then his time in charge would be viewed with less of an air of ultimate disappointment.
I cant face another season of him in the league. Nobody can turn the type of form we have been showing over such a long period of time, it is virtually impossible without changing manager and I think that is ultimately what Levy will have to weigh up. Is he willing to potentially throw next year too to find out if we start the season like a wet fart.
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I don't regard Pochettino has having been a disappointment at all. It was disappointing to not win a major honor in his time when the capability was there, sure. But he was failed by Daniel Levy's refusal to invest in the squad or replace key players who were departing or past their best. If that had been done, I think Poch could easily have won the league or won that final.
With you on this. Whether it's Ange or Frank or whoever, they are going to struggle if we don't bring in some quality. I'm just hoping that Paratici is in boss mode.I never said he was. I just commented that in Poch's time of success we had a far superior squad than the one we will currently go back into CL with. This is (or should be) a much bigger concern than who the manager is imo
i remember very few people having a problem with binning off the europa league back then. it was all about new stadium and top 4 and attracting better players. hell, there were debates about intentionally not qualifying for it so we could focus on the league ala leicester. this poch criticism (not from you) is pretty revisionist to me.
I'd much rather not know..him out, X in and on to greater things...Thanks for that night in Bilbao Ange, shame we never got a season 3 as we will never know what might have been!
imagine there's no losses
it isn't hard to do
no torn hamstrings
or high lines
no more inverted fullbacks too
imagine all the people
calling ange a cunt.....
you-ooooo
you may say i'm a bad fan
but i'm not the only one
i hope someday you'll join us
and shady dan fucks off into the sun!
"Imagine playing a league game
and not losing"
Ifs buts and maybes, I know, but would people feel differently right now if we'd beaten Lazio and Athletic Bilbao in their home stadium to lift the cup?
Genuinely curious.
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I honestly can't watch another year of Ange ball. I can't bear to watch this great club be so, so poor week in and week out.
So many torturous hours watching these flaccid performances for two years while he shrugs and has no answers.
We all know this ends in tears, it's hard to ask a person to subject himself to this clockwork orange horror show all the time.
At some point watching this dross 'because I love the club' becomes not wanting to watch it because you love the club
Just read some quotes from one of his assisstants. Makes me think he will be back next year
pick a side bruv
Oh I have one. But my logic on why I feel that way and why I feel it’s the correct way is unlikely to change the way the other side feels.
It’s dumb as well.
Nobody cares if you called him a fat cunt, just b admit you are wrong and enjoy the moment every Spurs fan has been waiting most of their lives for
Poch had 2 cup finals.
The league cup final in 2015 came too soon. And not only was it too soon into the project, it was also too soon after the game before. The League cup final was Sunday March 1st. We played away at Fiorentina on the Thursday beforehand. Chelsea, meanwhile, hadn't played since their home game against Burnley 8 days prior.
We were visibly dead on our feet early in the 2nd half. I remember Walker looking like he had less pace than Neil Ruddock. Now.
They were also champions that season.
The champions league final was over as a contest inside 30 seconds. As soon as Liverpool got that lead, they were more than happy to protect what they had.
It was unfortunately for us in both final, it wasn't through lack of talent by Poch to get us over the line.
In both cases, we were playing top, top quality teams when the odds were against us. Not the shittest Man United side in living memory.
Not the worst. Had the worst league season but not the worst,
Still a fucking bonkers juxtaposition
I have a bad feeling about this...
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Wasn't revisionist at the time when a great many Spurs fans got on their sacky sack wagons and banged the drums for Levy to sack the best manager in my lifetime of watching Spurs for the sin of not starting the 19/20 campaign well.
I am 90% sure Ange is staying. There is too many people willing to give him next season.