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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 72 64.3%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.7%
  • Total voters
    112
nasm_f said:
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I was wrong.

I didn’t realize winning would be as monumental as it was. It had been a looong time since I’d experienced it
 
Matt1882 said:
What part of what I said was wrong?
And give reasons why they were wrong.
I will counter everything you can come up with, with actual facts.
I could write the retorts first for shits n giggles.


1) He was at the bottom of the pyramid for most of his career. Australia. Greek lower level. Japan. Australia U20's and mens teams. This is fact. He then went to the SPL. Fifa rank the SPL as the 43rd in the world. You should see the shit above it.
2) Who else spends nearly 30 years at the bottom of the pyramid and then goes straight into the PL? Gerrard? He was shit.
3) Name me a single Spurs manager since the 80's that has been allowed to lose so many games and not get sacked.
4) When was the last time the Europa League simultaneously offered Champions League football for the win AND didn't have Champions League teams drop into it in the knock out stages?
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He didn't get to the top by working his way up.

I’d say he did exactly that. Every step of his career he has climbed a rung up on the ladder.

But if you think every club / country he has managed before Spurs are at the same level we have nothing to discuss. We are both just wasting precious time on this planet.

If you want to take the time out of your day feel free to answer the following. I’m about to head off for meetings so won’t come back to read replies till late tonight anyway.

I'm saying he started at the bottom. Stayed at the bottom for a very long time.
Define “the bottom” in your mind

And then got put at the top just in time for a once in a lifetime opportunity to go all out for an easy trophy.
Define “the top” in your mind.

Is there a level above “the top”?
To me there is. Let’s call it “the elite”

Is there a level you call “the middle”?
 
Don Pedro said:
Club Statement:

"The club would like to confirm that we are going to hand back the Europa League trophy. We don't feel worthy of it after losing 22 league games last season. From our perspective, the trophy drought will continue until we win only the hardest competition that we are in. I hope this brings clarity to our fanbase who were confusing last season to be a good season"

I genuinely think some posters on here want this to happen! LOL
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One of the most ridiculous posts I’ve seen on here lately and that’s saying something.

I know that it’s practically a requirement to be so binary now on every issue, but it is possible to hold two positions at the same time. The cup win was amazing and everyone, including Ange, gets credit for it. AND… 22 league losses is definitively unacceptable.
 
Matt1882 said:
That league finish has really muddled everything, really, really badly.
Or the cup win has.
Whichever way you look at it, it's a massive juxtaposition that very few teams, if any, will have had to deal with.
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I'll try to be as kind as I can to the situation, but it is hard.

This season, we must all surely be able to agree that it is ultimate proof that you don't have to be a good or consistent team to win a trophy. You just have to get the results on the day. It's a short amount of results required, too. Get out of the league phase in any way and there's 4 games on the way to winning it (R16, QF, SF, F).
Now it obviously involves some performances and some tactical skill along the way. There's an element of luck in the draw, but any team can be any on the day.

In the league, you can't do that. If anything, Ange's first 10 games show that if the PL as a cup, we'd have won it. The problem is, it is 38 games that occur over 10 months or so. You don't play on a game-by-game basis because of the 'positioning'. All results contribute, as do goal differences. In a cup, the group stage is forgotten and irrelevant. The closest you get is legged stages.

I would love to know how many season ticket holders would pay the price they do to turn up and know we were going to lose those games, but have the reassurance that we might put some effort in for a cup game
 
PatagoniaPhil said:
So basically palace cant play in europe unless he sells Lyon?
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No. Read the article.
"Palace’s European position is under threat rather than Lyon’s, as Uefa rules state that the club ranked highest in their domestic championship will be given entry to the competition. Lyon’s sixth-place finish in Ligue 1 gives them precedence over Palace, who came 12th in the Premier League."
 
CJJ said:
I'll try to be as kind as I can to the situation, but it is hard.

This season, we must all surely be able to agree that it is ultimate proof that you don't have to be a good or consistent team to win a trophy. You just have to get the results on the day. It's a short amount of results required, too. Get out of the league phase in any way and there's 4 games on the way to winning it (R16, QF, SF, F).
Now it obviously involves some performances and some tactical skill along the way. There's an element of luck in the draw, but any team can be any on the day.

In the league, you can't do that. If anything, Ange's first 10 games show that if the PL as a cup, we'd have won it. The problem is, it is 38 games that occur over 10 months or so. You don't play on a game-by-game basis because of the 'positioning'. All results contribute, as do goal differences. In a cup, the group stage is forgotten and irrelevant. The closest you get is legged stages.

I would love to know how many season ticket holders would pay the price they do to turn up and know we were going to lose those games, but have the reassurance that we might put some effort in for a cup game
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I couldn't even GIVE my season ticket away most of last season.
Match going fans aren't enjoying our league situation. Not at all.
 
Matt1882 said:
I'm on about the list of Europa League managers ranging from absolute nobodies to elite coaches but also having some of the very best ever to grace the game never even bothering to try winning it.
It's meaningless for that very reason. Ange hasn't joined some very special club because we won it.



That league finish has really muddled everything, really, really badly.
Or the cup win has.
Whichever way you look at it, it's a massive juxtaposition that very few teams, if any, will have had to deal with.
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You can convince yourself of whatever you want mate. its meaningless to you, but pretending its meaningless in general or to those who achieve it is just projection.
 
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