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Player Mathys Tel

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daveyboy88 said:
its not being negative, its an opinion given about a player on a football forum, i thought that was the whole point of these forums?

its fine saying you think a player looks good and promising, but back it up with something that actually relates to football. it wasnt long ago there were fans thinking winks and skipp were good enough for spurs....when anyone with half a clue could see they looked like boys playing a mens game in midfield.
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You're asking people to back their opinions up with facts, when some of them are still trying to fight in Ange's corner..

That's where football fans are. All opinion and no substance.
 
I guess it will go: announce Frank; announce Tel stays/goes; announce who’s available for sale, who’s not and so on.

No point optioning / not optioning with a new coach on the close horizon.

(Obvs. Werner was a special case, and Daddy Ben is easily a financial choice).
 
Think he's got huge potential, like world class potential and he's got the desire to make it u can see that when he plays.

All young players get the slate wiped clean under frank. Ange did not use the majority of our youngsters in a way that suited any of them at all apart from bergvall but that's only because our midfield basically just free-styled and did what they wanted on the most part.

Anges coaching and development of youngster was shocking, great talker yes, terrible development coach.

Udogie.... a young wing back/full back asked to stay much more narrow infield and almost play as a cm/no8. No wonder he hasn't kicked on

Gray..... yes desperate times in defense meant he needed to fill in and he did well. It was clear from day 1 how good this kid is but he just went backwards, moving to rb which he can do but against top flight wingers. Then left totally exposed in midfield in what was the most unorganised midfield I've ever seen. A dm need discipline, structure, and to be able to read the play but this is impossible when we had no structure, no patterns and can't keep the ball for more than 2 passes.

Tel......he's not a winger, 1v1 style. His best work comes from the inside left position and anybody that knew him before he came to us knows that. He has huge potential, great unpredictability, creative, ballsy as hell and he will reach the top if the game. We just need more established quality around to take the pressure off these kids to give them the time they need.

I could go on but I'm stuck at work ha.
 
Optimistic_Spur said:
Think he's got huge potential, like world class potential and he's got the desire to make it u can see that when he plays.

All young players get the slate wiped clean under frank. Ange did not use the majority of our youngsters in a way that suited any of them at all apart from bergvall but that's only because our midfield basically just free-styled and did what they wanted on the most part.

Anges coaching and development of youngster was shocking, great talker yes, terrible development coach.

Udogie.... a young wing back/full back asked to stay much more narrow infield and almost play as a cm/no8. No wonder he hasn't kicked on

Gray..... yes desperate times in defense meant he needed to fill in and he did well. It was clear from day 1 how good this kid is but he just went backwards, moving to rb which he can do but against top flight wingers. Then left totally exposed in midfield in what was the most unorganised midfield I've ever seen. A dm need discipline, structure, and to be able to read the play but this is impossible when we had no structure, no patterns and can't keep the ball for more than 2 passes.

Tel......he's not a winger, 1v1 style. His best work comes from the inside left position and anybody that knew him before he came to us knows that. He has huge potential, great unpredictability, creative, ballsy as hell and he will reach the top if the game. We just need more established quality around to take the pressure off these kids to give them the time they need.

I could go on but I'm stuck at work ha.
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We paid €10M for Bergvall who has huge potential - So we should offer Bayern €10M for Tel - On top of the €10M loan fee that’s a total of €20M which is more than a fair price for potential - Double what we paid for Bergvall.

Bayern don’t seem very interested in keeping Tel despite Sane leaving so we should NOT overpay … Plenty of players with potential out there who we can get for a reasonable fee … plenty of potential in our own squad/academy.
 
SpursDNA said:
We paid €10M for Bergvall who has huge potential - So we should offer Bayern €10M for Tel - On top of the €10M loan fee that’s a total of €20M which is more than a fair price for potential - Double what we paid for Bergvall.

Bayern don’t seem very interested in keeping Tel despite Sane leaving so we should NOT overpay … Plenty of players with potential out there who we can get for a reasonable fee … plenty of potential in our own squad/academy.
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That's a fair enough opinion and youre basing that on what u have seen of him so far. Bergvall was an absolute steal at the price we payed.

But I'd be happy to go to 30m tops providing he has an established player ahead of him (eg we sell son and buy eze etc)

This will be interesting for sure I think he's a future star and one day we will really regret it.

One of those players that's hard to sum up but he's just got it.

Tel and moore are the future. Moore needs to be central not left, another ange boo boo.
 
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