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Audere!Audere! said:
Full on meltdown over at Brentford

And I quote
"he's trying to poach virtually our entire staff he goes from "fair enough - took a bigger job - I can accept that" to "f*ck off you weasel worded floppy haired tw*t" in my book."

" As with most football people loyalty is only skin deep, especially when pounds signs spin round. Weasel words"

Oh dear... anyway...
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Not like we haven’t been there - it’s always tough realising your place in the food chain!
 
Audere!Audere! said:
Rubbish. Go do a little bit more reading and then consider your opinion.
5th highest scorers in the Premier League for a traditional League 1 club is pretty damn good.
Scoring machines in the Championship too.
Known for tactical flexibility and the remit for Spurs is to play good, attacking football. I think he will supply that, but without the naivety we've seen over the last 2 years.
He's a tactician and from all accounts, a fantastic coach.
Let's wait and see.

Hypothetical Scenario - If we beat teams we should be beating convincingly with attacking play and then beat the other top 6 sides 1-0 with playing astute solid football I think we will all be happy.
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If that hypothetical scenario plays out we'd be Champions!
 
OziBeerMan said:
There was an article somewhere re the negotiations to sign Frank and that he wanted control over player signings, which Spurs denied.
Not sure how reliable but seems on the money for Levy and co.
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All PL clubs now have a DoF/ Sporting Director or similar titled person whose role it is to scout and hire players - classic story is Klopp hating the player the Liverpool DoF wanted to sign, and only consented 'arm behind back'.

A year later Klopp rather liked Salah and admitted he'd been 100% wrong to try to reject him.
 
TomHotspur said:
Couple of real fact checks there.

AVB did not lose the dressing room at all, indeed most past players speak very highly of him. He failed because his best player was sold and he was told to build an entirely new team with a group of players many of whom he didn’t want, and suffered a catastrophic injury crisis to boot.
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It was fairly obvious he wasn't getting a tune out of the players. Jenas once said in an interview that he would tell players off in training if they moved out of their designated area of the pitch and everyone was confused how you can play like that.
The death knell for me was the 0-3 home to West Ham, where they easily pushed our 2 wide forwards onto their weaker foot and we have nothing. That came well before the 5 and 6 nil drubbings by Liverpool and City.
TomHotspur said:
Conte left because he is a manager at the very top level of the game that demands the very highest standards that became exasperated by the attitude of our ownership. To call what he did “melting” is laughable when you look at the success he has had everywhere he has been bar Tottenham.
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Conte is the best manager we've had. Full stop. But he had a meltdown and that is what got him sacked.
Here it is. In all its glory. It's even titled meltdown.

View: https://youtu.be/sH-SegUESY0?si=jJ9rbrL4HShgvafb
I personally love it. It was brilliant. It needed to be said.
TomHotspur said:
Nuno left because he was an absolutely horrendous appointment that everyone could see was destined to fail.
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Which is what I said.
 
Matt1882 said:
If people are gonna keep calling him Thomas the Frank Engine, some one needs to work with this

[Chorus]
They're two, they're four, they're six, they're eight
Shunting trucks and hauling freight
Red and green and brown and blue
They're the Really Useful Crew
All with different roles to play
Round Tidmouth Sheds or far away
Down the hills and round the bends
Thomas and his friends

[Verse 1]
Thomas, he's the cheeky one
James is vain but lots of fun
Percy pulls the mail on time
Gordon thunders down the line
Emily really knows her stuff
Henry toots and huffs and puffs
Edward wants to help and share
Toby, well let's say, he's square!

[Chorus]
They're two, they're four, they're six, they're eight
Shunting trucks and hauling freight
Red and green and brown and blue
They're the Really Useful Crew
All with different roles to play
Round Tidmouth Sheds or far away
Down the hills and round the bends
Thomas and his friends

They're two, they're four, they're six, they're eight
Shunting trucks and hauling freight
Red and green and brown and blue
They're the Really Useful Crew
All with different roles to play
Round Tidmouth Sheds or far away
Down the hills and round the bends
Thomas and his friends!
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I refuse to acknowledge that modern stuff. There are no words in theme tune, and for a full genuine effect, there must be at least one vertical tracking line that distorts the theme tune on your VHS


View: https://youtu.be/7JMu6tUMenM?t=7
 

View: https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1932330137535603102

I wonder if this is fully done or subject to (for example) certain players joining Spurs. And if so whether fees for the players have been agreed - for example if Brentford wanted £90m for Collins (CB) that's a 'no', what we'd reasonably pay is probably a max of £ 50m for a player they bought 2 years ago for £ 23m when A Madrid want to pay 45m for Romero etc, and even £50m is toppish, £40m to £50m possibly the market price.
 
DadHeungMin said:
If someone as obviously incompetent as Ange got two seasons I feel like any serious manager has to get the same amount of time at least, but of course ENIC.
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I think the Ange thing was a massive one off.
The backlash for sacking him would have been off the scale. Especially after Mourinho. We could possibly blame Mourinho for Ange lasting 2 full seasons. And maybe thank Mourinho that Levy all but had to keep Ange on until the Europa League was over.
 
Matt1882 said:
The death knell for me was the 0-3 home to West Ham,
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Spursidol said:

View: https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1932330137535603102

I wonder if this is fully done or subject to (for example) certain players joining Spurs. And if so whether fees for the players have been agreed - for example if Brentford wanted £90m for Collins (CB) that's a 'no', what we'd reasonably pay is probably a max of £ 50m for a player they bought 2 years ago for £ 23m when A Madrid want to pay 45m for Romero etc, and even £50m is toppish, £40m to £50m possibly the market price.
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I don't think any manager is going to make it subject to player signings as you can't force them to sign.
Logic dictates Mbuemo would take us, CL, over United, but logic doesn't apply, does it?
CJJ said:
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That was the end of the season when Dim Sherwood was at the helm. The way Paulinho and Adebeyor moved out of the way still haunts me.
 
Matt1882 said:
What none of those Angebois who WILL revel in any struggle Frank has (he'd have to win every game to shut them up) will ever recognise, is nobody knows for sure how bad (or well) he'd have done if he did stay. They just can't seem to cope with that. He won a cup so that means he will carry on winning cups. Every season. Because once.
It's dumb. They're dumb. I feel dumb trying to work out what's in their heads.



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That turns me on.



We earned £11.3m this season in prize money from the PL.
5th placed Newcastle (are you sitting down) earned £45m


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Premier League prize money confirmed for Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs

The Premier League season is now officially over - and all 20 clubs are set to receive their annual prize money payment after the final standings were confirmed.
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As I said yesterday. A top 6 finish MORE than pays for Ange's sacking and Franks hiring.
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18 million for CL qualification (plus the additional money for playing in it) and 8 million for Europa win. And the 11 mill for our league place. So 37 million. Plus the additional match day revenue and prestige of playing CL. Oh, and a trophy 🏆
Spursidol said:
All PL clubs now have a DoF/ Sporting Director or similar titled person whose role it is to scout and hire players - classic story is Klopp hating the player the Liverpool DoF wanted to sign, and only consented 'arm behind back'.

A year later Klopp rather liked Salah and admitted he'd been 100% wrong to try to reject him.
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You’d imagine though the manager has a huge influence on player signings as it’s their vision and style they’re trying to implement.
I mean Ange got derided for the signing of Brennan Johnson. So maybe he wasn’t his signing????
 
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