Do you really think that team was better than the team before the old stadium was vacated?Amazing.
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I thought winning trophies was all that mattered for measuring whether something had merit or not?
Nah, he would have gone to the Champions over the team that finished 17th with a new manager coming in.
Be serious.
Not always, Wigan Athletic won the FA Cup the same year as they got relegated.
Are you arguing that the club won a trophy last season because the new stadium was a game changer?
Why did your man Levy sack the manager a week or so after it?
If the club plods along like we have been since the new stadium was opened, with our biggest signing being Dominic Solanke, and being a fairly good PL team, law of averages probably says that the club is bound to win a trophy sooner or later,
Maybe I got it all wrong but I took the phrase 'The new stadium will be a game changer' to mean we'd be purchasing better players than we had in the few years prior to the old stadium being vacated.
But that simply hasn't happened, so now I don't know what the ''game changer'' statement actually meant.
The arguments seem to be so schizophrenic that they'll turn into full tilt Linda Blair before long.
It was you that has been arguing that the club has been ran poorly because they haven't own a trophy.
Now, you're also saying that the club has been run poorly despite winning a trophy.
Pick a lane.
I think I actually said something like what has Levy done for the club to warrant at any time to be the highest paid chairman in the league?
Your answer IIRC contained a comment about the new stadium.
We had a very decent side with good players in every position during the period I'm referring to, 2016/17... and since the new stadium was supposed to be a game changer I took that to mean we'll get better players, and win more trophies and be constantly challenging.
What the club has actually done is won a trophy last season but it's been won after many years of trying in the new and old stadiums, it had nothing to do with the new stadium being a game changer or the team wouldn't have ended up 17th in the league. Even Postecoglou admitted he had to change focus away from the PL to win the EL, hardly the situation to be in if the stadium was really a game changer.
But tell me, which players you think are better in this current team after the new stadium made all the difference, than the players that were in the team in the few years prior to the old stadium closing?
Need a top striker as well.
If you swapped the wage brackets and Liverpool offered 150k, we offered 250k???
I like our chances
Not sure we do.
Absolutely...
These posters saying that are just here to defend enic and Levy. It's funny how so many of them seem to appear (having hardly ever posted before) and then spend ages on here defending every little thing.
I’m tired.
Time for me to concede defeat and let them have this thread.
Levy is great and is going to lead us to the PL and CL without shifting the wage structure because he’s a genius
Just don't engage with them. The delusion is unbreakable. Levy is they're hero
His new gooner mouthpiece probably won't last more than 18 months or so
Probably need top players in a number of positions.
What the club end up purchasing will be completely different.
It's a cult mate. Pure and simple. A cult devoted to diminutive, ruthless extremely wealthy businessman who doesn't even know they exist
Freaky as fuck, man
It's not a cult, and I've never seen any poster on here who doesn't have at least one criticism to make of Levy. (If you think there are any, go ahead and name them, and let's see if they agree that they don't have a single bad word to say about anything Levy's ever done).It's a cult mate. Pure and simple. A cult devoted to diminutive, ruthless extremely wealthy businessman who doesn't even know they exist
Freaky as fuck, man
Some of you just need to get past this childish "everyone who has a different opinion to me must be mad or in a cult" etc. People can have different opinions. You and I could differ on many subjects, for example politics, religion, gender / sexuality, economics, all sorts of things - it doesn't mean either you or I are part of a 'cult' for each of them, we just have a different opinion to each other, and that's ok.
I sometimes defend Levy / ENIC, and for MY reasons, what I consider to be important drivers, I consider us to be in a far better place than at the start of their tenure. I don't approve of everything - for example, moving wildly from one style of manager to a completely different one, which we've done more than once in the last 5 years, is just stupid. As is sacking a manager 6 days before a cup final. I'm sure I could easily think of others. With that in mind, I'm not a 'supporter' of Levy or ENIC, I wouldn't lose any sleep if our ownership changed to something genuinely better for us, but I don't hate them either. And I suspect the very vast majority of those who you believe to be in some kind of cult are actually quite similar to me in that respect, i.e. they think on balance Levy / ENIC have improved us, but they have also done various things that we don't approve of. It's not 'freaky as fuck' at all, it's just a group of people who have different opinion to you - grow up and get over it FFS.
Erm...
So the point is to win things. OK
Must be based purely on them winning things, because no one sane would suggest it is because of their book-keeping or admin that keeps getting them punished and investigated...
Ok, so the team that won nothing was better? That isn't success, so how does that work?
If you'd bothered to read/quote the full thing it was "The new stadium will be a game changer which will enable us to compete financially with Europe's biggest clubs". We now make significantly more revenue and have increased our player costs significantly. But none of that stuff is 'success' right? You have to win things - or at least that was your argument yesterday about wanting to win an FA cup because that's all that matters when measuring success.
Oh right, just coincidence then. Must be nothing to do with the £400m+ net spend in the last couple of seasons that we didn't have before.
So, to sum up - if other teams win a trophy they are "successful" , and the directors earn their beans. If spurs do it, it isn't success - it's just coincidence, and must be some other reason.
I'd assume you don't mean me, as I've been on here longer than you and have over 10,000 more posts.
It's a weird thing but some of us support the club and are generally pleased to not be the next big fat Amstrad failure. We've just won a European cup (something that the woolwich scum have never said) so in the grand scheme of things are quite happy to be like "hey, I love my team and I'm proud of how the club has managed to build itself back up again".
The real cult is people like yourself and John Thomas, who are just here to attack every little thing about the club. That's what our rival fans do. You shouldn't be shit-talking the successes of the last 2 decades and declaring that's somehow the high ground, or else you'll just blend in with the claret and red.
Levy once promsed his head that it would always hav hair
His promises men nothign
His promises men nothign