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ENIC In or ENIC Out


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Erm...


So the point is to win things. OK



Must be based purely on them winning things, because no one sane would suggest it is because of their book-keeping or admin that keeps getting them punished and investigated...



Ok, so the team that won nothing was better? That isn't success, so how does that work?


If you'd bothered to read/quote the full thing it was "The new stadium will be a game changer which will enable us to compete financially with Europe's biggest clubs". We now make significantly more revenue and have increased our player costs significantly. But none of that stuff is 'success' right? You have to win things - or at least that was your argument yesterday about wanting to win an FA cup because that's all that matters when measuring success.




Oh right, just coincidence then. Must be nothing to do with the £400m+ net spend in the last couple of seasons that we didn't have before.


So, to sum up - if other teams win a trophy they are "successful" , and the directors earn their beans. If spurs do it, it isn't success - it's just coincidence, and must be some other reason.
Well it's not all about trophies for example the club don't get a trophy for winning the NLD. It got a trophy last season but also had the worst PL season for I can't remember how many years, and the manager ended up getting the sack but at least he lasted longer than the other managers since the game changing new Stadium was complete.

Now since you didn't answer my question I'll ask it once more.

Who in the present team, a team that is about 6 years into the project of (as you say) "The new stadium will be a game changer which will enable us to compete financially with Europe's biggest clubs". is a better player compared to the players in the 2016/17 team prior to the old stadium closing?

Or are you going to say that ''competing financially with Europe's biggest teams'' doesn't mean the club was going to sign better players?

Edit - Oh and by the way Levy had been highest paid chairman before the Europa League final, so compared to some other Chairman, no he hadn't earned his beans.
 
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The Japanese signing working like a dream , up to 58 Levy in now .

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Who in the present team, a team that is about 6 years into the project of (as you say) "The new stadium will be a game changer which will enable us to compete financially with Europe's biggest clubs". is a better player compared to the players in the 2016/17 team prior to the old stadium closing?
All of them, because they didn't fold like a wet paper towel in a cup final for once.

Or are you going to say that ''competing financially with Europe's biggest teams'' doesn't mean the club was going to sign better players?

Edit - Oh and by the way Levy had been highest paid chairman before the Europa League final, so compered to the some other Chairman, no he hadn't earned his beans.

Not sure why you've hidden this, as if it's some kind of secret message.

The point, which you are gloriously missing, is that a 'successful' chairman earns bonuses for company performance. We are the best run football company in the league, and have financial security we have no right to have.

If you'd rather be back in the 90s then that's on you - but you can't criticise the club with any validity off the pitch.

That much has been proven by the so-called 'worse' team showing the Poch era one how you treat a cup final. Pointless being a good team on paper if you can't deliver when it is needed. It also goes to prove that it isn't "the best players" or "the board" that helds us back from winning a trophy, it was the mentality on the pitch.

And pretty much none of them were on form.
 
All of them, because they didn't fold like a wet paper towel in a cup final for once.



Not sure why you've hidden this, as if it's some kind of secret message.

The point, which you are gloriously missing, is that a 'successful' chairman earns bonuses for company performance. We are the best run football company in the league, and have financial security we have no right to have.

If you'd rather be back in the 90s then that's on you - but you can't criticise the club with any validity off the pitch.

That much has been proven by the so-called 'worse' team showing the Poch era one how you treat a cup final. Pointless being a good team on paper if you can't deliver when it is needed. It also goes to prove that it isn't "the best players" or "the board" that helds us back from winning a trophy, it was the mentality on the pitch.

And pretty much none of them were on form.

Is this fun for you?

There's nothing hidden in that post on my screen.
 
Is this fun for you?

Supporting the club has been fun for me for over 30 years. Significantly more than it was in the first 10, I can assure you.

The reason why no one takes the little "levy out" club seriously is because there's more weight in a grain of sand than there is in the amorphic reasons put forwards to take digs at the club.

I used to let it slide, but people new to the club actually think it's true that we've never won anything before, or that before ENIC the club were some mega successful enterprise, rather than living through financial misery and constantly forced to sell our best players to carry on existing

You heard it here first folks, according to CJJ the present team has better players in it than the prime Pochettino team.

Success is winning things, according to you. Or not. Depending on your argument, isn't it?
 
Success is winning things, according to you. Or not. Depending on your argument, isn't it?
So we lost 22 PL games in either of the 2016/17 seasons?

Do you not even for a moment consider that beating the worst Manchester United team in living memory, and being 17th in the Premier League, is a far easier task that trying to beat a very good Liverpool team and ending the season in 4th?
 
So we lost 22 PL games in either of the 2016/17 seasons?

Do you not even for a moment consider that beating the worst Manchester United team in living memory, and being 17th in the Premier League, is a far easier task that trying to beat a very good Liverpool team and ending the season in 4th?

So are you saying that the club was more successful finishing in the top 4 than it was winning the EL?

:sonhmm:
 
The reason why no one takes the little "levy out" club seriously is because there's more weight in a grain of sand than there is in the amorphic reasons put forwards to take digs at the club.
I don't think I've said Levy Out during our messages together, What I have done is mention his quote about using football as a money spinner in 1997. And now there are protests to get him out, and I don't think that there's much if any distance between what Levy had said back then, and what the protests are about now.

So after all this back and forth I still perceive the same information, the same way, the only thing I have changed is that I no longer think Levy is presently the highest paid Chairman.
 
I used to let it slide, but people new to the club actually think it's true that we've never won anything before, or that before ENIC the club were some mega successful enterprise, rather than living through financial misery and constantly forced to sell our best players to carry on existing
Apart from Gazza which players were we constantly selling to survive?
 
I don't think I've said Levy Out during our messages together, What I have done is mention his quote about using football as a money spinner in 1997. And now there are protests to get him out, and I don't think that there's much if any distance between what Levy had said back then, and what the protests are about now.

So after all this back and forth I still perceive the same information, the same way, the only thing I have changed is that I no longer think Levy is presently the highest paid Chairman.
Lenin is on the train.
 
No I'm saying it was easier to beat that Manchester United team than the 2019 Liverpool team, and it's easier to be 17th in the PL than 4th.

Not more successful but much easier.

We've lost to worse European sides than Man Utd in previous years with better teams and with better coaches.

If it was so easy then why did it take us 40 years to repeat the trick?
 
We've lost to worse European sides than Man Utd in previous years with better teams and with better coaches.

If it was so easy then why did it take us 40 years to repeat the trick?
I was only referring to the team in the few years prior to the old stadium closing, being better than the team now. So the new stadium hasn't really done anything to improve the team since then, if anything the players are worse now than then.

I'm not going through the whole thing again with you though, my head hurts already from dealing with that other guy.
 
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