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Transfers The Summer Transfer Edging Thread 2025

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Tomo said:
We have no idea if the squad we built is anything remotely as good as the transfer fee we paid for it. The only reason we are holding our own currently against Newcastle and Villa is they spent a load a few seasons back and hit PSR, in 1-2 seasons they will have a lot of freedom again to spend big and push on further and that’s before we come to any resurgence with United who will have a decent squad next season and if Amirom is still shit will replace him. In the past there where at best 5-6 teams who could fight for 4 places, there is now going to be 7-8 teams doing it and all of them will either have more financially firepower or will in the future. If the club hasn’t seen the changes in the league then I don’t know what to say.
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I understand what you're saying - but its the reality of how as the owner/director of a football club you evaluate your manager. I've paid for the 5th/6th most expensive squad in the league. Its unacceptable for you, as a manager, to be worse than that. I might not sack you if you equal that. But I hired you and am paying you millions of pounds a year because I want you to make that squad perform better than their cost.
 
MemphisWill said:
I understand what you're saying - but its the reality of how as the owner/director of a football club you evaluate your manager. I've paid for the 5th/6th most expensive squad in the league. Its unacceptable for you, as a manager, to be worse than that. I might not sack you if you equal that. But I hired you and am paying you millions of pounds a year because I want you to make that squad perform better than their cost.
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I do think this is a reasonably accurate description of the way Levy looks at it.

That management (inclusive of scouting and recruitment) matters more to results than player spending at the margin is the core of his ideology.
 
FightingIllini said:
I'm not saying it was decent, it wasn't. It would have eventually gotten him sacked.

What I'm saying is that it's very sharply and clearly distinct.

The initial surge was one very easy to isolate thing. The endless losses collapse was too. The balance, which was about half of Ange's total tenure, was a different, third thing. And it was the "real" Angeball really, tons of chances at both ends, no control of the game, wildly varying outcomes depending on which team tied their shooting boots better.

I don't know why I bother fighting the historiography on this stuff, all I really care about is that we got our trophy, but the stuff that paints Ange as a random tea lady they stuck in the dugout as a prank just triggers me, I can't help it.
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The tea lady would have done better, she'd have been in over her head, known it, and probably deferred to coaches with experience in the league.

I don't hate Ange, and have vowed to remember the first 10 matches, the excitement of that Chelsea match even in a losing endeavor, and Bilbao. But I stated when we hired him that he never should have been interviewed much less got the job. He was out of his depth, but, unfortunately for us, didn't think he was.
 
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If we are looking seriously at an attacking mid that can also play out wide, I’d be looking at Marco Asensio. Was pretty impressed by him last season at Villa. Can play in the forward positions, still only 29, could be cheap, but higher wages.

Rumour is he’s off to Fenerbahce, but I’d be happy to see him here instead.
 
Tomo said:
We have no idea if the squad we built is anything remotely as good as the transfer fee we paid for it. The only reason we are holding our own currently against Newcastle and Villa is they spent a load a few seasons back and hit PSR, in 1-2 seasons they will have a lot of freedom again to spend big and push on further
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I don't think they will. They have to reduce their wage to revenue %age significantly to comply with PSR. If they want to continue bringing in players to keep them in the CL positions, they'll need to significantly increase their revenue, so it matters not how rich their owners are.
Tomo said:
and that’s before we come to any resurgence with United who will have a decent squad next season and if Amirom is still shit will replace him.
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Highly unlikely IMO. Their squad isn't that great, is ageing in key areas and the entire club's philosophy is rotten from the top down.
They struck Gold with SAF, before him they were no better than we were.
Tomo said:
In the past there where at best 5-6 teams who could fight for 4 places, there is now going to be 7-8 teams doing it and all of them will either have more financially firepower or will in the future. If the club hasn’t seen the changes in the league then I don’t know what to say.
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I'm not seeing that myself personally. Villa will fall away IMO, as will Newcastle. Neither have as extensive a fanbase, neither have the ability to attract the outside commercial ventures that clubs in London and Manchester can. Neither will be able to have wealthy owners put in their own money, neither have the assets to do what Chelsea have just done.
Villa are massively over the wage/revenue threshold, whilst Newcastle are bang on it, and that's only because they managed to increase their revenue via broadcasting and match day revenue. Can you see them increasing their ticket prices sufficiently to match those in London or Manchester? In far flung Newcastle? To keep up with the Joneses, they'll have to cheat.

As it stands, City, Utd, the filth and us are very healthily placed where wage/revenue is concerned. Liverpool too, though they are at 63% at the moment. Chelsea are slightly over, though I expect they'll be selling off a few of the players they have to bring that down.

In essence, pretty much the same 5/6 clubs will continue on, with the odd flurry, now and again, from pretenders, who'll just get cherry picked as they'll not be able to offer their best players what the top clubs can.
 
AberdeenYid said:
If we are looking seriously at an attacking mid that can also play out wide, I’d be looking at Marco Asensio. Was pretty impressed by him last season at Villa. Can play in the forward positions, still only 29, could be cheap, but higher wages.

Rumour is he’s off to Fenerbahce, but I’d be happy to see him here instead.
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Not a bad shout, but the wage demands will put us off, even though the all-in cost would be less than Kudus.

We put artificial limitations on ourselves in really stupid ways.
 
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