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The question really is, are there bids being accepted above secret release clauses all the time and the public (and perhaps even the buying club) just never finds out about it?

That seems ludicrous to me, but maybe?

Exactly. It seems ludicrous that this is a rare case of a club actually getting close to the the exact release clause amount. We are technically talking about tens of millions of pounds being wasted here, on every big transfer.
 
So, what happens if Levy rolls in knowing that they want the 100m and offers 60m anyway? It's not like that would be out of character, and the player would be sold. You don't know if that is what happened here.
It's quite possible. He could have offered £55 million and been rejected as well. An offer of £60 million would have been accepted. But it appears that in this case, it became known that the existence and content of the clause were revealed to Spurs and Forest quite properly want recompense for it.
 
Exactly. It seems ludicrous that this is a rare case of a club actually getting close to the the exact release clause amount. We are technically talking about tens of millions of pounds being wasted here, on every big transfer.
I mean maybe, maybe not.

Certainly big agencies like CAA have dealt with these contracts in great volume and THEY know what bids are being accepted relative to release clauses.

If those clauses are not having their intended effect, the agents will get wise and negotiate the terms differently.

The Greek Trump? Daddy gave him a fortune and rules don't apply to him!
I think you guys are failing to grasp the implications of "Greek Trump" being the absolute truth here.

Marinakis will consent to this transfer only on pain of legal compulsion.

Legal compulsion cannot and will not arrive within the transfer window if Morgan Gibbs-White doesn't take aggressive and public action to demand that legal compulsion, and maybe not even then.
 
I think if MGW has to put in a transfer request to get the deal moving, then he’d have grounds for breach of contract too.
Not if he, or by extension his agency broke it in the first place by releasing his release clause, which does seem to be likeliest scenario. At the moment there will likely be some agreement between Forest and MGW how to carry on in the meantime under current contract.
 
Yeah that would be true if a team offered 80m but that didn't happen. Spurs offered 60m and that triggered the release clause.

If another club comes in and outbids us now with 80m then that makes no difference. It'll be up to the player. The spurs offer should be good enough as it meets the release clause.

Atleast thats how it should work although it seems this Forest owner is doing his own thing and would prob find a way to force MGW to join the club paying more money. Contractually that is not how it usually works though.I just think this Forest owner comes from the mafia or something and he's doing everything on his own terms
Thought you were logging off :D
 
That's just wrong. If you have a release clause of £60 million and the other club offers £80 million, then the player is sold for £80 million, the purpose of the release clause in this case is that an offer of at least £60 million will trigger the clause.

Not sure about the meaning here, as there's some possible grammar that affects the intent you're making.

As Man Utd (Bale) and Chelsea (Modric) will know, to their chagrin, the higher bid isn't always the one that gets the player. If the clause is £60m, and one club offers £60m and two others offer £100m, then the player will be sold for £60m if he accepts the terms of that offer.

It is just pointless, generally, to pay more than the release clause unless you aren't actually activating it (see: Zubamendi being sold for more than his clause, because Woolwich needed to use Klarna instead of paying the fee all up front [which I believe is the way it has to work in spain to activate them])

I believe they did do something different with Nicholas Pepe, where the selling club (Lille?) got the money up front (£72m) and I think a leak showed they borrowed the money from a middle-man and were paying the installments with interest to them
 
Not if he, or by extension his agency broke it in the first place by releasing his release clause, which does seem to be likeliest scenario.
That would be for a court and/or a PL tribunal to decide.

And as has been mentioned, in theory such disclosure would be very difficult to prove.

But it would be a long, ugly slog with some risk that MGW wouldn't be able to play during that period.

It appears very clear MGW isn't willing to take that chance. So he has surrendered, there's nothing else to happen here.
 
But that is NOT what happened here.

A club met the release clause hence Notts Forest are legally obliged to sell the player to the club bidding £60m.

I have not seen the clause so its possible Notts Forest could sue the player for revealing t he clause ( although I very much doubt it ,- the clause is in the contract so club knows it might be exercised ) but if so that is entirely separate I n law to the transfer of the player. Good luck if you sue the player - no other player likely to sign for you in the future.
The club are not obliged to sell if the other party has not acted in accordance to the correct procedure. It seems that in this case Forest claim that Spurs spoke to the player or his agent when they had not received the written permission that they needed before they were permitted to do so and that confidential information was obtained and use by Spurs which gave them a commercial advantage.
Depending on circumstances Forest could take action against Morgan-Gibbs, his agent or Spurs. They can also make a complaint to the Premier League, which they have done.
I don't know what the complaint is, you don't know what the complaint is, but both clubs and the Premier League have known about it since yesterday.
 
Well the silver lining is that Spurs will now have 60m extra notes that they hadn't budgeted for to put towards other targets like Wharton perhaps....or another top tier central midfielder....or striker....or left back....right....right?? :frankfacepalm:
 
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