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Manager Thomas Frank

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Are you Frank Out or In?


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Ange was/is a motivator a salesman, beyond that he was limited in his tactical abilities.
Frank should, provide more tactical flexibility in games and, will make us harder to beat.
I've no doubt he will make us harder to beat and much more consistent in the league.

I just wonder how far he can take us. Can he convert us into a top team that can blow away lesser teams and win trophies? I'm not sure. I think we'll be much better against the big teams as we will set up more pragmatically and be much harder to break down. But I think we'll score alot less goals and struggle to break down low blocks under Frank.

I'm not starting some anti Frank agenda. I hope and pray I'm completely wrong and Frank just evolves into an attacking manager with better players. But I had concerns before he joined so I'm not going to change my opinion just because he's now our manager. He will get my full backing this season. I just am not convinced he's the long term manager to get us competing on all fronts.
 
I've no doubt he will make us harder to beat and much more consistent in the league.

I just wonder how far he can take us. Can he convert us into a top team that can blow away lesser teams and win trophies? I'm not sure. I think we'll be much better against the big teams as we will set up more pragmatically and be much harder to break down. But I think we'll score alot less goals and struggle to break down low blocks under Frank.

I'm not starting some anti Frank agenda. I hope and pray I'm completely wrong and Frank just evolves into an attacking manager with better players. But I had concerns before he joined so I'm not going to change my opinion just because he's now our manager. He will get my full backing this season. I just am not convinced he's the long term manager to get us competing on all fronts.
We have struggled with the low block for years, even pochs team had trouble breaking it down.
Hard to know how far he can take us since, he has never managed a club with our expectations and size.
Maybe, he gets us better organised and to a decent level, for someone else to take it on.
Or, he takes us all the way to the top table, he will of course need top backing to do so.
 
We have struggled with the low block for years, even pochs team had trouble breaking it down.
Hard to know how far he can take us since, he has never managed a club with our expectations and size.
Maybe, he gets us better organised and to a decent level, for someone else to take it on.
Or, he takes us all the way to the top table, he will of course need top backing to do so.
Yeah 100%. He will steady the ship and make us more consistent anyway. Should help with laying foundations for the next guy if he does fall short which is what made him such a safe bet for Levy.
 
You might not realise this but the vast vast majority of managers at all clubs get sacked eventually.

You (falsely) imply that all our sackings come from the left field after just a few bad results.
Actually, some of our sackings don't even come after "just a few bad results" either.

Take Redknapp. Yes, he hitched his skirts up at the FA for the England job, but I don't hold that against him. An old school guy like Harry, would see being England manager as the pinnacle of his career.

Once it became apparent they weren't going to give it to him though, why sack him? He had us performing well, while playing attractive attacking football.

I didn't think Mourinho was a good fit for Spurs, and the football we played under him made my eyes bleed, but to sack him on the eve of a cup final is just bizarre. Especially as one of the justifications for bringing him in was that he was a winner.

To be honest I think Levy sometimes has the same mindset as a lot of fans. Always looking for the shiny new manager, or transfer rather than being patient and building for the future, with what we've got.

Most of the most successful clubs, stick with a manager for a decent period of time, or they build a structure so that when a manager leaves, the new one can (ahem...) slot right in.

Levy seems to prefer a scattergun approach, and I think ultimately it's holding us back.
 
Seemed nervous and that comment around 100% losing games is like watching a car crash in slow motion. Notas charismatic as Ange. Let's hope he can make up for it in different areas.
He's right and I knew what he was saying but it did feel like a nervous comment to me. This job and the expectations that come with it is a huge leap for Frank. He knows he is expected to compete on all fronts next year and he's not stupid, he knows we aren't ready to do that. So he is naturally trying to play everything down so that when we do lose games he's not under pressure.

That'll be the biggest test for him, how will he deal with the pressure after we lose games? It'll be pressure like nothing else he's experienced before. Most football fans are over-reactionary these days after football games, mainly due to social media. Every decision he makes will be under scrutiny after a defeat. Them interviews after every defeat get analysed to death now. We saw Ange crumble under this where he gave some bizarre interviews and fell out with multiple journalists. At least Frank knows its ahead and probably is preparing himself for it, but you can tell he is a bit nervous for what is to come.
 

Pure class. If this bloke delivers on the pitch anything like he delivers in a presser then we can look forward to a fantastic era under him imo.

COYS!
 
Personally I thought his press conference was really good and I don't think he came across that nervous either. Could be that I couldn't stand Ange's press conferences, especially in the second season, and found his "charismatic" style to be pretty bullshit with very little substance, and therefore find this pretty refreshing.
 
Not at all....

I'm surrounded by gooners at work currently and our cup win shuts them up every time.

Awesome feeling.

Context of what I wrote mate. No dispute about last season but that level of season-long sh!t every time round. No chance.

With a reality, that playing that poorly, rarely if ever yields fruit.

Someone asked the question about taking the season we finished 2nd, but we're utterly brilliant for last season. It's a really hard question to answer, but I would say the latter on the basis that it gave confidence in what should have come next. That it didn't was baffling, but more of last season would eventually lead to relegation.
 
Actually, some of our sackings don't even come after "just a few bad results" either.

Take Redknapp. Yes, he hitched his skirts up at the FA for the England job, but I don't hold that against him. An old school guy like Harry, would see being England manager as the pinnacle of his career.

Once it became apparent they weren't going to give it to him though, why sack him? He had us performing well, while playing attractive attacking football.

I didn't think Mourinho was a good fit for Spurs, and the football we played under him made my eyes bleed, but to sack him on the eve of a cup final is just bizarre. Especially as one of the justifications for bringing him in was that he was a winner.

To be honest I think Levy sometimes has the same mindset as a lot of fans. Always looking for the shiny new manager, or transfer rather than being patient and building for the future, with what we've got.

Most of the most successful clubs, stick with a manager for a decent period of time, or they build a structure so that when a manager leaves, the new one can (ahem...) slot right in.

Levy seems to prefer a scattergun approach, and I think ultimately it's holding us back.

TLDR; but benefit of the doubt suggests to me you just offered a more objective re-assessment than your initial bad take.

Thx.
 
What were those things we were doing during the game?

Hard to describe, but basically there were times when the players would pass to each other in some sort of pattern? But it was weird, it's almost like the players knew that the ball was coming to them and then knew what to do with it once they had it..

Weird.
 
Obviously hard to draw too many conclusions after the first pre season game after the players have been back 1-2 weeks but I think it's clear that the wing backs will be used like traditional wing backs rather than attacking midfielders like they often were under Ange and because of that I think we will see way better versions of Udogie and Porro this season.
 
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