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England went to 3 points for a win in 81/82.On average we finish 27 points behind the Champions each season under their ownership.
Got any names?
I’ve got a few on ignore, which I would prefer to not get drawn into discussing. My point of view on ENIC is not secret, and maybe my view to them would be abhorrent, who knows, better to not personalise things I think.
That bit in particular if true is incredibly embarrassing for the club. Club needs to issue some kind of statement otherwise we'll end up looking like bitches over this. Can't simply let Forest dominate the narrative without issuing any kind of statement.
Even something like "we triggered the release clause in what we thought was a legal fashion, but morgan gibbs-white wasn't willing to challenge the legality of Forests denial to recognize our clause-breaking" would be nice- at least then we can simply say MGW was too much of a pussy to insist on a move.
I'd be all for a thread that's segregated strictly to player evaluations and tactics/fit stuff, which can often get short shrift here.Truth is there are a load of people who are sick off the anti-Enic cult driving us mad in the transfer thread.
I'd be all for a thread that's segregated strictly to player evaluations and tactics/fit stuff, which can often get short shrift here.
But once you get into negotiations over fees, there's just no separating it from the level of aggregate investment in the team, nor should there be.
The bottom line is MGW wanted neither CL football or a move to Spurs.Telegraph article
Bitter legal threats and personal feud fuelled Nottingham Forest move to keep Morgan Gibbs-White
By fending off Tottenham’s advances, Evangelos Marinakis has made a major statement of intent – and got one over on Daniel Levy
Morgan Gibbs-White will wear the red jersey of Nottingham Forest this season and, for the club’s owner Evangelos Marinakis, this moment feels like a pointed statement to the powerful ‘Big Six’.
Marinakis is determined to establish Forest as a force in European football and his success in persuading Gibbs-White to reject the riches of Tottenham Hotspur is another clear sign of progress.
“At the end of the day, we always win,” were Marinakis’s words after an interview on Saturday night confirmed that Gibbs-White has signed a new three-year contract.
Tottenham are preparing for Champions League football under their new head coach Thomas Frank, who was convinced that a deal was inevitable after triggering the £60m release clause.
Yet the full details of the stormy mini-saga, which included bitter legal threats and acrimony between the owners of the two clubs, can be revealed here.
Spurs bungled release-clause activation
After Tottenham made their move on July 10, the fall-out was spectacular. Forest were convinced that Tottenham breached certain levels of confidentiality, and there are even doubts that they matched the exact terms of the release clause.
Such clauses can be very complex, and it is understood that Tottenham fell short of activating a number of conditions.
Forest sent an intention of legal action to Spurs owner Daniel Levy, while an official complaint to the Premier League was also under consideration.
Just over two weeks later, Gibbs-White committing his future to Forest was not in the script. Marinakis flew into Portugal on Thursday with one intention – to resolve the future of his star player. Negotiations advanced quickly and on Saturday night, shortly before a friendly against Fulham, the England international had agreed to stay.
There is no release clause. There is no gentleman’s agreement to leave next summer. Gibbs-White will be the best-paid player in Forest’s history, and Marinakis views this as a major triumph.
Marinakis took Levy approach personally
Tottenham have missed out. The message was relayed to Frank on Saturday night that the deal was off. Marinakis was simply not ready to accept losing this particular battle with Levy. He felt the nature of Levy’s approach was a slur on Forest, and what he is trying to build.
Gibbs-White is relishing the start of the new season, and the team spirit which has defined their evolution under Nuno Espirito Santo cannot be discounted.
The 25-year-old has behaved impeccably as the saga unfolded. There has been no strike action, mysterious injuries or threats of transfer requests. He has reported for training as normal and while many will argue that should be a prerequisite, other Premier League players caught in a similar situations have not always responded in that way.
It's like Groundhog Day in this thread. One poster deliberately posted an identical post every day, sometimes multiple times.I'd be all for a thread that's segregated strictly to player evaluations and tactics/fit stuff, which can often get short shrift here.
But once you get into negotiations over fees, there's just no separating it from the level of aggregate investment in the team, nor should there be.
The bottom line is MGW wanted neither CL football or a move to Spurs.
What his agent saw was an opportunity to pad his, and his players bank account.
Ignoring how we have not added any other vitally needed first team upgrades, how the fuck have we not even brought in a fucking left back yet?
If we go into the season with Davies, again, it's fucking totally embarrassing incompetence.
I think this will backfire on him come contract talks with other Forest players.Our powder is drier than the Atacama Desert . I assume now Marinakis has finished publicly humiliating poor Daniel our resident take a bullet for Levy brigade will be working on their given script for why it is a good thing in the long run
Really, once they extended Davies we knew what time it was.Ignoring how we have not added any other vitally needed first team upgrades, how the fuck have we not even brought in a fucking left back yet?
If we go into the season with Davies, again, it's fucking totally embarrassing incompetence.
It is actually crazy. There's a world where VDV is a good LB match, if he's the one forming a back 3 with the RB pushing up. Just don't want a scenario where our LB and back up LB are both part of the strongest 11
Well match threads are just everyone operating from a psychotic fugue state, it's buyer beware in there.It's like Groundhog Day in this thread. One poster deliberately posted an identical post every day, sometimes multiple times.
The same thing, the same "joke" repeated over and over and over. I can't put all of them on ignore.
Other posters keep quoting my ignored posters which makes it hard to follow the thread.
There is a thread that is specifically about Levy and Enic but these anti-Enic nutcases just want to pollute other threads, even match threads.

There are posts and posters in this thread hoping we get relegated and getting agrees from the predictables . That to do with transfer finances has what?Well match threads are just everyone operating from a psychotic fugue state, it's buyer beware in there.
But in the transfer window thread, the negotiation of player values is just inseparable from the finances and investment in the club, that just is what it is. I'm as tired of the same old "offer RM a packet of crisps and Josh Onomah for Rodrgyo" jokes as you are, but you have to meet people where they are insight-wise I guess![]()