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Transfers The Summer Transfer Edging Thread 2025

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I just have this feeling we’re gonna replace Son with Alejandro Garnacho and I can’t get it out of my head.

Tbh I think our expectations have been lowered so much that any signing right now will seem like a win.

Garnacho and the likes of nunez are the best we can possibly muster, I fear.

Having said that......I do have a hunch that wherever nunez moves too, he will finally begin to fulfil some promise. I think he never should have moved to pool, the shirt weighs heavy and he does work incredibly hard.

Garnacho seems a total prick though. He has talent for sure, but not for me.
 
Eh, I don't really think Richy represents remotely the same thing, with all due respect to him.

Son is the most marketable player ever from the massively competitive growth market of Asia, his contribution to our financial strength is probably under-heralded, there isn't really a like-for-like replacement for that.

Puts the Saudi sponsorship stuff in some context.

Richy isn’t even close to Sonny but if Son wants out, Richy is the biggest name from the biggest market in the squad. Maybe Romero but Brazil is a bigger market.

Richy is probably a similar size name in terms of Brazil market share to Rodrygo if you did the market analysis tbh.
 
Too many mediocre signings have put Spurs in a precarious position of not necessarily competing as we should in the PL.

Our EL run was very favourable so we were expected to win most of those games.

Solanke, Odobert, Tel, Brennan, they are all signings that won't improve a teams aspirations for top 6.

For me that's apart of the various reasons as to why we finished 17th though they all contributed very well in the EL so they deserve credit for that, its really about transmitting that quality in towards PL opposition.
But we won't.

This is the level of signing the board will continue to make, because it's all about quantity, and praying they can become £100m players.

I'm just so sick of it. I knew this summer would be like this. It's just so amateurish. I really can't wait for the usual "we tried really hard to get some deals done, but this was a really difficult market and I have to give credit to the recruitment team, but we just get deals in because of one thing or another". You can almost copy that word for word, because we hear it after every window nearly.
 
He looked good before he started getting injured every week but he’s regressed massively since then
That’s definitely the question mark. How much is regression, how much is struggling to build rhythm because they built a settled side when he was out. There were games when he came on last season where he looked really good imo. Against West Ham he came on and changed the game snd brought Villa up a level. He had a good gsme against us at Villa park, and a couple of other games he upped the tempo for Villa.

It might be a risk because of the foot injury, but quality wise he’s a surer thing than many we’ve been linked with or actually bought.
 
Richy isn’t even close to Sonny but if Son wants out, Richy is the biggest name from the biggest market in the squad. Maybe Romero but Brazil is a bigger market.

Richy is probably a similar size name in terms of Brazil market share to Rodrygo if you did the market analysis tbh.
But like, Brazil is not a place Premier League clubs are stumping for corporate sponsorships and summer tours and Brazil has MUCH bigger stars than Richy.

When Son leaves we are still going to be pushing for support in Asia, probably complimented by the US slightly more than now, but ultimately it's just going to come down to the global impact of stardom and especially winning games, we don't have the Best Asian Player Ever handsome goal-scoring star boost to lean on anymore.

By way of example, the biggest boost in attention our social media channels ever got was signing Mourinho. Not because of some Portuguese boost, but because he's just a globally famous name to football fans everywhere. It was a bigger impact than reaching the CL final.
 
We know about the old model, the traditional English manager-does-everything scheme, which is increasingly untenable given the sheer complexity of things. As a football culture, we're still too wedded to it.

Another model is often found on the continent, I gather, where there are more or less permanent structures supervised by a technical director who has oversight of the academy, development of young recruits, the strength of the senior squad, and financially viable player trading. Paratici used to be one of these. In principle, in a system like this, the transition from one head coach to another shouldn't be such a big thing.

If we have Big Club ambitions, then we should be aiming at the latter model. It looks like under Lange, backed up by Venkatesham, we're doing a more sustainable version of that. Or at least that what it seems from the outside.

If so, it's a work in progress.

I'm saying all this in hope rather than expectation. But I hope that Levy can be freed to do what he's supremely good at, property development, commercial income (in tandem with Altius8), NFL relations, management of our debt, courting new minority investors, relations with banks, and, not least, relations with the majority owners (Joe Lewis Family Trust), and the small shareholders.

Meanwhile Venkatesham, Lange, and co., look after the football in such a way that we get all the way to a well-administered club able to host both long-term and short-term head coaches.
Even if we are doing this, are we confident that Lange will still be in the job longer term? It’s not only managers we go through, but Directors of Football, Chief Scouts, etc. Just seems like we can’t ever find a suitable and stable model to carry forward through to a period of settled progress.
 
I hate this window more than I hate peddle pushers.

For the record, I am really not a fan of peddle pushers.

We are not going to do much from here and the section of squad players that are limited are going to increase their limitations and become even less attractive to the wider footballing world. The running joke about Levy is for such a canny businessmen he doesn't half make some daft calls. Although I guess you can afford to make daft calls when you operate within strict margins. Desperately trying to remember what bilbao felt like
 
If we would go balls to the wall for Rodrygo I would so much rather see us target Rafael Leao tbh, it actually feels quite doable this season as no other big clubs are seriously targeting him, he has gone under the radar a bit but had a fantastic 2024/25 season, just hitting his peak years physically, wages are much more realistic for Spurs than Rodrygo and you feel a similar fee of £70-90m would get the deal over the line, he has a 175m euro RC in the contract but feel MIlan in the financial spot they're in would take substantially less.

Frankly I can't understand why, when looking at the terms of his Juve deal, we weren't seriously in for Jonathan David, an easy upgrade on any player across our front 3 with the possible exception of Kudus (though you're measuring 2 different skillsets against each other then).
He’s so casual and lazy. He’s been coasting at Milan for years. Great talent, but I think he’d be a disaster.
 
But we won't.

This is the level of signing the board will continue to make, because it's all about quantity, and praying they can become £100m players.

I'm just so sick of it. I knew this summer would be like this. It's just so amateurish. I really can't wait for the usual "we tried really hard to get some deals done, but this was a really difficult market and I have to give credit to the recruitment team, but we just get deals in because of one thing or another". You can almost copy that word for word, because we hear it after every window nearly.
And even when our players are valued highly, such as Eriksen, Kane, Son, Dele, Vertonghen, Alderweireld and Walker. We were very reluctant to strengthen, and most importantly smartly.

Davinson Sanchez was one hell of a revolutionary signing.

Just proof that Levy has and will never act on his words of ambition.
 
So, this £60m, where’s it gone?

Eze bid? Nothing
Some Wonderkid?
Move the budget to DM? And loan in a Rodrygo, Guler (best player of this type, not gonna make an elite 11 this season, though Guler might well be Alonso’s Wirtz).

Do we need a similar all action 8/10 to Gibbs-White? Is Stiller that guy?
 
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