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Has VAR Ruined Football?


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This was always the move, should have been implemented from day one in fact.

It's no cure for incompetence/corruption, but it at least eliminates the total arbitrariness of VAR interventions (or lack thereof).
 

This was always the move, should have been implemented from day one in fact.

It's no cure for incompetence/corruption, but it at least eliminates the total arbitrariness of VAR interventions (or lack thereof).
Oh No!!!!!!!!

I've feared this. It will make things even worse. The ability to cheat has just been increased a bit more. These 'lawmakers' really are a bunch of muppets.
 
Oh No!!!!!!!!

I've feared this. It will make things even worse. The ability to cheat has just been increased a bit more. These 'lawmakers' really are a bunch of muppets.
Why?

Combine this with a removal of unprompted VAR interventions altogether, and you'll end up with a much fairer situation than what is in place at the moment.

They can obviously still make the wrong call, but at least they wouldn't be able to intervene on a whim. And if you're a manager, challenge the on-pitch call at your own risk.
 

This was always the move, should have been implemented from day one in fact.

It's no cure for incompetence/corruption, but it at least eliminates the total arbitrariness of VAR interventions (or lack thereof).
Bit of an odd claim in that piece. It says something like "it'll be interesting to see how coaches like Pep Guardiola and Diego Simeone go about using the system"

Is this piece a mash up of history or something? They were both managing in Spain in 2011-12 but VAR wsan't introduced until 2018 in Spain.

Or do the authors know something we don't?
 

This was always the move, should have been implemented from day one in fact.

It's no cure for incompetence/corruption, but it at least eliminates the total arbitrariness of VAR interventions (or lack thereof).

It just needs a person in the VAR room to slap the silly cunts round the back of the head and tell them to fucking check.
I'm sick to death of the idiocy of the implementation of it. VAR could, and SHOULD, work. But it doesn't because the people that manage it are absolutely fucking clueless.
 
Get ready for players delaying the restart to allow someone reviewing the replay to radio their findings down to the dugout becoming a universal part of every big moment of every single game.

Out. Out! :bentancurpoint:
As annoying as that is, it's less annoying than a bunch of utter jobsworths in the VAR room deciding "the ref must have seen that" and failing entirely to review a blatant decision.
We're stuck in a situation where refs are clearly not making decisions assuming VAR will intervene, and VAR are not intervening because the assume the ref must have seen it.
 
As annoying as that is, it's less annoying than a bunch of utter jobsworths in the VAR room deciding "the ref must have seen that" and failing entirely to review a blatant decision.
We're stuck in a situation where refs are clearly not making decisions assuming VAR will intervene, and VAR are not intervening because the assume the ref must have seen it.
Stopping the flow of the game to parse a video replay, under absolutely any circumstances whatsoever, subtracts FAR more from the spectator experience of a football match than it adds in fairness and reliability of refereeing decisions.

The search for some magical acceptable implementation is missing the forest for the trees. Sure, you could make it somewhat less of a net negative on the game, but it will always be a gigantic net negative.

Fans should state this much more clearly. Our role is not to cosplay football authorities finding the best implementation methods, it's to say that we fucking hate this and it has made the game dramatically less enjoyable.

OUT
 
Stopping the flow of the game to parse a video replay, under absolutely any circumstances whatsoever, subtracts FAR more from the spectator experience of a football match than it adds in fairness and reliability of refereeing decisions.

The search for some magical acceptable implementation is missing the forest for the trees. Sure, you could make it somewhat less of a net negative on the game, but it will always be a gigantic net negative.

Fans should state this much more clearly. Our role is not to cosplay football authorities finding the best implementation methods, it's to say that we fucking hate this and it has made the game dramatically less enjoyable.

OUT
Well, the ideal situation is that refs all get it right more often and there is no need for VAR.
But they've gotten worse and worse for ages.
 
Bit of an odd claim in that piece. It says something like "it'll be interesting to see how coaches like Pep Guardiola and Diego Simeone go about using the system"

Is this piece a mash up of history or something? They were both managing in Spain in 2011-12 but VAR wsan't introduced until 2018 in Spain.

Or do the authors know something we don't?
The quality of football related articles is getting worse and worse.
That was 1 of 2 articles I read today and the other one was saying that man city finished 2nd last season behind liverpool and Woolwich:)
 
They dropped the VAR official who made the call on the Fulham goal, but isn't it the Ref who should get the boot? He went and looked at it and accepted the ruling instead of telling them to behave.
 
VAR is here to get rid of howlers, not to get everything right. And not to re referee the game, looking for obscure reasons to disallow goals.
It’s not going away so they must make it work better. Ironic that last season in the fa cup Man Utd v Leicester , no var and Maguire scored when clearly offside . That’s what it’s for.
Oh for a ref who goes over to the monitor and sticks with his correct decision.
Not surprised it’s not working when you hear Mike Dean being terrified as he’s going to work on var before he retired. Didn’t say anything to the ref Antony Taylor after Romero pulled Cucurellas hair at a corner. Didn’t want to drop his mate in it .
Now we’ve got retired ref, Graham Scott, definitely not one of the best but he did once go to the monitor and stick with his decision , writing in the telegraph saying how much he hated being on var.
 
The disciplining actions are just there to take the heat off.

What gets me is when they decide not to view something blatantly obvious, particularly after doing so earlier in a game against the other side.

Seems it's used as a tool to protect interests.
 
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