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Transfers The Summer Transfer Edging Thread 2025

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Aussies Dream said:
He’s 28 next June, his current contract expires June 2027.

Palace don’t have the power unless they’re financially flush.

Equally Eze has one more move/decent contract in his career. If he wants to play CL he needs to leave and probably by no later than next summer. And at that point his value in the market is considerably less.

Spurs or any other buying club are arguably in the strongest position…
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Yes, but that's nothing to do with the release clause expiry, there's no incentive there for a buying club to wait until it expires to aid negotiations.

People talk about release clauses as though the selling club can't accept offers lower, even though we've literally seen it ourselves with Kudus this summer, release clause of £85m and we bought him for £55m, the release clause expiring does nothing to strengthen the negotiating position of a buying club, if anything it weakens it.

His value deteriorating due to contract expiry is an entirely separate issue, and that is happening whether there's a release clause or not. It's also a more complex issue because his value to Palace can't be assessed as purely a transfer fee, he has value on the pitch, and like we did with Kane, they may prefer to hold on to the player for what he brings on the pitch as opposed to what he brings to te bank account.

They may also be hoping that he's as daft as Zaha and keeps signing new contracts before wondering why he can't get a transfer away every summer, but the Guehi thing might give them pause for thought on that.
 
Well... over 24 hours now, and neither story has been refuted, ruined, or rubbished.
We may still have a chance in these two transfers!
Assuming we don't fuck them up ourselves of course.

It is extremely odd another story regarding ENIC investment surfaces.... right after we are linked with good players.

Why did the investment talk stop instantly as soon as it was reported after MGW here we go? In fact they did not know whether it was ENIC, Saudi, Stadium, or Saudi Stadium rights. But now they are sure its ENIC?
 
Aphex said:
Another thing is I was looking at our midfield, it's pretty shite isn't it. Compared to the top sides.

Bentancur, Bissouma, Gray, Bergvall, Sarr, Palinha, meh.

Not one of them you could say you would be confident is top or capable of delivering a top season.

If we sign eze and Silvio it makes it less important.

But if we don't sign those two, our shite attack combined with a very underwhelming midfield doesn't bode well
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should try and push bissouma to west ham in exchange for paqueta really, need a midfielder with technical quality.
 
No news is good news people

If neither had a chance of happening, then City or Palace would have made it publicly known that the players weren't going to Spurs by now - it's been over 48 hrs since the news broke.

Stay strong people.












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Herclueless said:
Well yeah, but that's due to getting closer to contract expiry with each passing window, main point is that clubs aren't waiting for the clause to expire before making a move. That's entirely counter intuitive, once it's gone if Palace want to then they can just quote a fuck-off price of £100m or whatever.

Whilst it remains active they will be more inclined to negotiate reasonably because if they don't then a club could just activate the clause and take them out of the loop entirely.

Basically if a club wants him this summer, their best shot is to sort out a deal whilst the clause is active, not wait until it's expired.
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You're right there not waiting but thats not because they want to pay the clause.

Once the clause ends I don't think they are getting 68m and they know that because nobody's paying it. Once it ends I don't see palace quoting any amount more than 68m nor do I see them saying fuck off 100m because they are against the clock on this, and there's only 2 interested clubs.

I agree with the last paragraph but in a different way...
Their best bet IS to negotiate whilst the clause is active using that 68m as the asking price, but the second the clause is over and we've offered 55m + 5m in add ons is the second palace have a big dilemma, especially if thats our best offer and if they decline we walk away and then the gooners hold them to ransom for even likely less.
 
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The levels of negativity in here blow my mind.
In the last 8 years we've signed Maddison, Solanke, VDV, Romero, Richarlison, Ndombele, Kuus, Johnson, Sanchez and Porro,
All of theses players were £40m+
To be so fucking nervous over 2 players who won't cost much more, are already IN England and 1 plays for a much smaller team than us is rather dire guys.
 
Matt1882 said:
The levels of negativity in here blow my mind.
In the last 8 years we've signed Maddison, Solanke, VDV, Romero, Richarlison, Ndombele, Kuus, Johnson, Sanchez and Porro,
All of theses players were £40m+
To be so fucking nervous over 2 players who won't cost much more, are already IN England and 1 plays for a much smaller team than us is rather dire guys.
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because of how important they are and the bullshit that came with MGW.

savinho would be the most exciting signing weve done in a long, long time.

hed be the first brazilian weve signed that actually plays like a brazilian.
 
Matt1882 said:
The levels of negativity in here blow my mind.
In the last 8 years we've signed Maddison, Solanke, VDV, Romero, Richarlison, Ndombele, Kuus, Johnson, Sanchez and Porro,
All of theses players were £40m+
To be so fucking nervous over 2 players who won't cost much more, are already IN England and 1 plays for a much smaller team than us is rather dire guys.
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Among those I count 1 player near the level of Eze and that's Maddison.

And we didn't finish 17th the year before
 
Doom Funk said:
Yeah I'm starting to reach the point where I don't think we bring anyone else in

By the time we get the door slammed in our face by Eze and Savinho , the likes of El Khannous will have already been snapped up

I genuinely think our strategy is to drag these two deals out as close to the end of the month as possible and use it as an excuse for no more incomings

Where this club is concerned , cynicism should be the order of the day
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Imagine if we acted like a big club and had clever football people working for us...I know, tough right? We'd have crafted a cute plan even before last season had ended, and soon as the calendar hit June 1st...bim bam boom, we'd have started making moves.

- Something needed doing re our goalies, especially Kinsky...likely won't happen​
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- New CB especially a leftie: nah you're fine with injury-prone Cuti & Micky, Drag who's crocked (and crap) + Ben Davies & Takai​
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- New LB to push Udogie? Nah Ben Davies is a very important player​
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- Shift Biss and get a destroyer who can also play? You can have one of Bayern's worst ever signings (who's coming back from a big injury)...on loan​
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- Shift Bentancur and get a No 6/8 who can stay fit and play (and who's not a dumbass making racist 'jokes' about his club legend of a captain)? Nah let's extend Rod's deal​
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- Get a new No 10 who can take over from fragile little petal Maddison? The MGW debacle​
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- Replace Sonny with a ready-made superstar at LW? You can have another Bayern reject, who did fuck all here on loan, for FORTY mil​
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- Get a RW who can actually dribble and beat his man? You can have Kudus, the Spammers were in the shit so we're pounced & saved 20odd mil​
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- Sign an elite CF who knows where the goal is (sorry Dom)? Why, we've got Richy & Tel​
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- Chop the deadwood (Kinsky, Drag, Biss, Bent, Solomon, Gil, Richarlison etc)? Meh​
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- Recruit English or at least Brits? Meh​
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- Give some of our kids a chance? Fuck that​

Even if we somehow get Eze and Savinho over the line, we're still way behind what should've been done and how it should've been done. There was clearly no plan in place, just a question of keeping their eyes peeled for any good financial opps.
 
Optimistic_Spur said:
You're right there not waiting but thats not because they want to pay the clause.

Once the clause ends I don't think they are getting 68m and they know that because nobody's paying it. Once it ends I don't see palace quoting any amount more than 68m nor do I see them saying fuck off 100m because they are against the clock on this, and there's only 2 interested clubs.

I agree with the summary paragraph but in a different way...
Their best bet IS to negotiate whilst the clause is active using that 68m as the asking price, but the second the clause is over and we've offered 55m + 5m in add ons is the second palace have a big dilemma, especially if thats our best offer and if they decline we walk away and then the gooners hold them to ransom for even likely less.
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This is where I disagree slightly, though it's not important and really only a matter of opinion, it's all posturing, whether the clause is active or not is totally irrelevant, if we're offering £55m and £5m addons and are the only club bidding, the dilemma remains the same for Palace.

Their dilemma only really increases as the deadline approaches, as they have to consider what is more important to them, having the player available to them, or the money that they can bring in, and the release clause is entirely irrelevant to that.
 
Herclueless said:
Yes, but that's nothing to do with the release clause expiry, there's no incentive there for a buying club to wait until it expires to aid negotiations.

People talk about release clauses as though the selling club can't accept offers lower, even though we've literally seen it ourselves with Kudus this summer, release clause of £85m and we bought him for £55m, the release clause expiring does nothing to strengthen the negotiating position of a buying club, if anything it weakens it.

His value deteriorating due to contract expiry is an entirely separate issue, and that is happening whether there's a release clause or not. It's also a more complex issue because his value to Palace can't be assessed as purely a transfer fee, he has value on the pitch, and like we did with Kane, they may prefer to hold on to the player for what he brings on the pitch as opposed to what he brings to te bank account.

They may also be hoping that he's as daft as Zaha and keeps signing new contracts before wondering why he can't get a transfer away every summer, but the Guehi thing might give them pause for thought on that.
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I disagree but that's an interesting view. The second the clause ends, their chances of getting 68m which is what they've stuck firmly too so far decreases instantly.

His value deteriorating due to contract expiry is not a seperate issue. It is a key part of the formula used to calculate the players value both to themselves and to perspective buyers.

If he had a clause that ended and he had 3 or 4 years left then fine but he has 2 years and is playing for palace. Parish will want the payout this summer and hes not getting 68m.
 
daveyboy88 said:
because of how important they are and the bullshit that came with MGW.

savinho would be the most exciting signing weve done in a long, long time.

hed be the first brazilian weve signed that actually plays like a brazilian.
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He wants to play a lot of football in a world cup year. He already lives in England and there aren't any other teams lining up to buy him. Especially not in the Champions League this season.
Unless City suddenly decide they're not selling then I think it gets done.

Eze, a lot depends if Arse are actually interested. And even then, he has to decide whether he wants to compete with Odegard for the starting no.10 role, or just take Maddisons spot by default this season. Again, world cup year, can impress at home and in the CL.

I worry slightly that Liverpool paying £35m for Guehi makes Palace think about blocking a move. They may not be happy about being relegated to the Conference League but they won't want to lose 2+ good players before even playing in it.
 
Kane you believe it said:
Among those I count 1 player near the level of Eze and that's Maddison.

And we didn't finish 17th the year before
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Doesn't really matter how good or bad they are.
The fact is, we wanted them and we paid the money for them.
Not too dissimilar money to what we need to pay to get Eze and Savinho.
So the melting here is quite unfounded.

Many of the players we have failed to sign have been from abroad with issues like 3rd party ownership etc.
As far as I'm aware, neither City or Palace are run by a completely insane Greek criminal either.
 
Matt1882 said:
He wants to play a lot of football in a world cup year. He already lives in England and there aren't any other teams lining up to buy him. Especially not in the Champions League this season.
Unless City suddenly decide they're not selling then I think it gets done.

Eze, a lot depends if Arse are actually interested. And even then, he has to decide whether he wants to compete with Odegard for the starting no.10 role, or just take Maddisons spot by default this season. Again, world cup year, can impress at home and in the CL.

I worry slightly that Liverpool paying £35m for Guehi makes Palace think about blocking a move. They may not be happy about being relegated to the Conference League but they won't want to lose 2+ good players before even playing in it.
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the worrying thing about savinho is city might price us out, i think its bonkers they are thinking about getting rid of him after a year, you can tell he is a gem of a player, natural footballer. this would be absolutely huge for us.

not worried about eze, can take him or leave him. as long as we get some sort of CAM in then thats something.
 
Optimistic_Spur said:
I disagree but that's an interesting view. The second the clause ends, their chances of getting 68m which is what they've stuck firmly too so far decreases instantly.

His value deteriorating due to contract expiry is not a seperate issue. It is a key part of the formula used to calculate the players value both to themselves and tomperspective buyers.

If he had a clause that ended and he had 3 or 4 years left then fine but he has 2 years and is playing for palace. Parish will want the payout this summer and hes not getting 68m.
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He has 2 years left on his deal today, and will have 2 years left on his deal the day after the release clause expires, the clause is entirely irrelevant to that.

A player having a release clause is never a positive for the selling club, as contrary to what many seem to believe, it doesn't increase the amount that a buying club is willing to pay, but it limits the amount that a selling club can demand. So logically, for me anyway, the removal of that clause as a factor can only be a positive for the selling club.

The time remaining on his contract, and how that impacts the fee they can realistically expect to receive, is totally unrelated to this clause.
 
Matt1882 said:
The levels of negativity in here blow my mind.
In the last 8 years we've signed Maddison, Solanke, VDV, Romero, Richarlison, Ndombele, Kuus, Johnson, Sanchez and Porro,
All of theses players were £40m+
To be so fucking nervous over 2 players who won't cost much more, are already IN England and 1 plays for a much smaller team than us is rather dire guys.
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We have the wage cap as well.

Romero staying and happy to be Franks captain was already a statement move.

As promising as both are, Savinho and Eze are both in our wheelarch to sign
 
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