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When you look at the evidence in front of you, it appears for once Levy tried to go big on the transfer window, buying ready made players - without the usual focus on resale values and developing their worth..

He also allowed Ange to carry on in his job for the sake of a trophy rather than the financial gains from league positions..

And he got fired for it.

There is a possibility that the Lewis mob just want a chairman that focuses on financial gains rather than the football. Not sure why people mostly seem to think Levy's departure will be the catalyst for our explosion towards footballing dominance.

I reckon this is it. When was Lewis last at a match? This club is an investment-they might as well be selling widgets-and the purpose is to make money.
 
When you look at the evidence in front of you, it appears for once Levy tried to go big on the transfer window, buying ready made players - without the usual focus on resale values and developing their worth..

He also allowed Ange to carry on in his job for the sake of a trophy rather than the financial gains from league positions..

And he got fired for it.

There is a possibility that the Lewis mob just want a chairman that focuses on financial gains rather than the football. Not sure why people mostly seem to think Levy's departure will be the catalyst for our explosion towards footballing dominance.
This is my biggest concern and the reason I'm not jumping around celebrating Levy leaving. None of us are privy into what is really going on behind the scenes.

Harry Redknapp did an interview this morning saying that it was Lewis who wanted him sacked and Levy was the fall guy who had to be the face of the decision. I'd be very weary of thinking there will be any big change. Its also well known that Levy wanted Poch back and always kept a strong relationship with Poch, so its fair to guess he was not the driver behind sacking him either. Maybe Levy was the fall guy all long? Who knows. He was the face of all the decisions but was he always the one making them decisions?

I haven't been impressed by Lange or Vinai so far. And I know nothing about Peter Charrington. Levy was probably a beaten flush and had burnt too many bridges across the industry that I welcome the decision for him to go. But I find the assumption that there is going to be big change at spurs to be very naive. I wouldn't be surprised if its more of the same and if the likes of Vinai and Charrington turn out to be even worse than Levy.
 
I reckon this is it. When was Lewis last at a match? This club is an investment-they might as well be selling widgets-and the purpose is to make money.
If they just want money they'll sell us. We'll see but either way we're in a better place today. Levy had become an obstacle, whether investment or buying and selling players. The built up baggage of 25 years and an approach to football at least 10 years out of date. Sometimes you need fresh ideas, innovation so even if budgets are the same (which i doubt) i see us improving. Might take a while though.
 
Not impossible. Imagine the board had been beating the drums of sacking Ange since Feb, and it's Levy backing him on the backdrop of Europa. Ange and Levy got the victory but club was financially hit because of 17th (not like it's alot from 12th anyway honestly, especially we got CL in the then end) and so the board decision was to sack both. Because AFAIK it's highly unusual when Ange was sacked, the term 'board decision' was used.
These are my suspicions. It's not like Levy would ever come out and say what pressures he is under from above.

For the first time he delivered on what fans want, which wasn't what the owners wanted.

I have a bad feeling about this investment banker and the new ceo. The childish celebrations and excitement around Levys departure only increase my caution.
 
Not impossible. Imagine the board had been beating the drums of sacking Ange since Feb, and it's Levy backing him on the backdrop of Europa. Ange and Levy got the victory but club was financially hit because of 17th (not like it's alot from 12th anyway honestly, especially we got CL in the then end) and so the board decision was to sack both. Because AFAIK it's highly unusual when Ange was sacked, the term 'board decision' was used.
Charrington was appointed in March. Vinai in April. The die was cast before the Europa win.
 

This is a funny thread, some posts about how they'll now be able to buy our players again and discussing who they'd like! haha

the lack of "sense of self" is truly astounding
Levy was difficult to deal with that served us both positively and negatively.

They might have a point. You have to recognise how reluctant Levy was to sell our stars, especially to Premier League clubs.

Dele, Dier, Rose, Kane, Eriksen, Modric, Bale etc.

Walker, Carrick and Berbatov are the only stars we sold to English clubs that come to mind, with the latter 2 being of a different era really to Fergusson.
 
These are my suspicions. It's not like Levy would ever come out and say what pressures he is under from above.

For the first time he delivered on what fans want, which wasn't what the owners wanted.

I have a bad feeling about this investment banker and the new ceo. The childish celebrations and excitement around Levys departure only increase my caution.
Yeah. I still couldn't get around that Vinai yet as well. Honestly I rather the Lewises just sell up now that the hurdle of Levy is gone. It doesn't make sense they want to 'win like fans' now considering our best chances were under Poch close to winning the league and CL.
 
Personally I've never equated wealth with charisma or heart. There's good and bad in all regardless of their financial standing.
Disagree. The richest 1% have more wealth than the bottom 95 per cent of the world’s population put together. Meaning those left in extreme poverty starve to death. This isn’t sustainable & results in a child starving to death every 10 seconds. To think a good person can be someone who hoards 100s or 1000s of millions (billions) & others should have nothing & starve to death. Or many others be in extreme poverty & struggle badly for the basics whilst you a life in of luxury hoarding wealth you don’t need that could literally save peoples lives. . Extreme poverty is 700m people. In the UK, wealth inequality is widening, and poverty is getting worse. An estimated 14.5 million people – 22% of the UK population – live in poverty. Meanwhile the richest 1% of Britons now hold more wealth than 70% of all other Brits. Just the ego & selfishness to think you deserve to hoard so much of the wealth when others are in poverty or starving to death.
That’s before you get to how these rich people made their fortune which is usually exploiting people.
I think we will have to agree to disagree on this one!
 
Levy was difficult to deal with that served us both positively and negatively.

They might have a point. You have to recognise how reluctant Levy was to sell our stars, especially to Premier League clubs.

Dele, Dier, Rose, Kane, Eriksen, Modric, Bale etc.

Walker, Carrick and Berbatov are the only stars we sold to English clubs that come to mind, with the latter 2 being of a different era really to Fergusson.
They might have a point about the past.......

they have no sense of where they are now.

"History" is doing a lot of heavy lifting for them.
 
I can't help but worry for Don Charrington and his families safety over the next few months

Daniel's loyal army of devotees are surely going to be planning some nefarious actions to avenge their fallen hero

Hope he's got a top security team lined up
 
I think the younger Lewis’s if they truly do have any interest in retaining us will soon lose that interest.

I would be shocked if we’re not sold within 12 months
They’re not going to resist billions of pounds. Every top club is being bought by US/Arab billionaires. Spurs are absolutely ripe for the taking.

London based, huge fan base. Stadium built, no significant debt. It’s the one big club out there that is absolutely golden.

They can’t avoid it. Money talks.
 
Why would Airfixx be gone? He has an interest in football, he does at least engage in lots of discussion around the actual football, players, matches, reffing decisions etc - can't say the same about some of his main 'opponents' here. Would seem more appropriate they would finally fuck off, but of course that would be wishful thinking, it's only Levy not ENIC gone, so they will still have plenty to aim their vitriol (and often complete lies) at, so I'm sure nothing will change in that respect. Maybe perhaps they will finally at least get over their obsession with him being bald (something which I've never understood when used in the insults - is it evil to be bald? I'm not bald myself, but I've often wondered how any bald forum members feel when Levy's baldness is so often a target for their anger... Almost childlike in it's logic... :/ ).

For me, Levy departs with far more good done than bad. Of course he made mistakes - I honestly don't believe there is a single poster on this forum who would say otherwise, even the main ones accused of loving him have many times openly critcised him on some things - but we are in a far better place than we were 25 years ago, which when you consider the cheating that a couple of clubs have done to get ahead, is pretty incredible and something we should all be very grateful for.

Baldy neglected to sign enough top quality attacking players during his tenure, that's not a mistake, With those ticket prices it's financial abuse of the paying customers. Other clubs may well have cheated the system but Baldy cheated the club's own supporters.
 
IMO the only reason the EL means more these days is simply because it’s not the worst form of Europe. The CL qualification for the winners has been around since 2015, so it’s not like that swung things. No one really cared when Utd won in 16. And I’d argue no dropdown from the CL has hurt its perception, since that’s one of the bigger criticisms our win has had.

I remember when the word ‘Europe’ in football media was basically shorthand for ‘Champions League’. I grew up in the ‘Thursday night, channel 5’ days; remember the 2-2 vs Chels away in 12/13 with the Adebayor screamer and after every goal scored, that song came out from both sets of fans because the game was seen as the CL decider?

The Conference has been a massive success for UEFA tbh, it’s seen as a somewhat respectable trophy and has massively increased the value of the two above it.
Absolutely the drop down thing has hurt it. For me, the 3 tiers look sort of like this;


Champions League























Europa League
Conference League
 
This is my biggest concern and the reason I'm not jumping around celebrating Levy leaving. None of us are privy into what is really going on behind the scenes.

Harry Redknapp did an interview this morning saying that it was Lewis who wanted him sacked and Levy was the fall guy who had to be the face of the decision. I'd be very weary of thinking there will be any big change. Its also well known that Levy wanted Poch back and always kept a strong relationship with Poch, so its fair to guess he was not the driver behind sacking him either. Maybe Levy was the fall guy all long? Who knows. He was the face of all the decisions but was he always the one making them decisions?

I haven't been impressed by Lange or Vinai so far. And I know nothing about Peter Charrington. Levy was probably a beaten flush and had burnt too many bridges across the industry that I welcome the decision for him to go. But I find the assumption that there is going to be big change at spurs to be very naive. I wouldn't be surprised if its more of the same and if the likes of Vinai and Charrington turn out to be even worse than Levy.
If Levy got push, IMO, it's not because of 24/25 and this summers window.
It's the conclusion that, after 25 years, his mere presence as the face of THFC does more harm than good.
 
Charrington was appointed in March. Vinai in April. The die was cast before the Europa win.
Didn't really matter IMO? Feb was the most sackable month for Ange and if the boardroom was debating about it and decided to give him (or Levy) time until after the season, the Europa win wouldn't change that decision. And that coincided nicely with the March and April time line you stated as they would have decided since then to take the season as a free hit.

But anyway, it feels plain weird defending Levy.

Levy out!
YES!
ENIC OUT next.
Sell up!!
 
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