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Has VAR Ruined Football?

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I felt sorry for Fulham. They played a perfect first half. But got trully fucked over.

Perryman said:
VAR is here to get rid of howlers, not to get everything right. And not to re referee the game, looking for obscure reasons to disallow goals.
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Exactly.. and they have completely forgotten this.

Every year they make new "improvements" to the rules and new definitions, only to stop following them after the first few rounds.. We have seen it with "clear and obvious", yellow cards for kicking the ball away or showing dissent towards the referee.. they have just distorted the rules way to much.. So they find these obscure reasons in whatever they want to..
 
Think I clocked something on my muted TV at the Fulham Villa match when someone went in studs up yesterday and didn't even get checked by VAR. Sky showed a replay 3 times and from every angle, it was studs into the leg.
They didn't even check it.

Bin it off.
I wanted it, but it's been an absolute disaster because it's run by the referees and they're absolute fucking morons.
 
Crockett said:
They said it touched his foot first so the rule is no handball now. It’s a total common sense vacuum in the VAR room.
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The entire referee world lacks any common sense.
They act like they are the be all and end all of football.
The fact they spent what, 5 minutes trying to find Richarlison offside on Tuesday is evidene they have no idea what fans want.
Fans are the be all and end all with football. Without paying fans there literally is no professional football.
 
Matt1882 said:
Bin it off.
I wanted it, but it's been an absolute disaster because it's run by the referees and they're absolute fucking morons.
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This is what the problem is with that theory - it isn't VAR that is the problem, it shows the blatant corruption without any excuses for referees now.

If you get rid of VAR, you just gloss over the actual problem
 
CJJ said:
This is what the problem is with that theory - it isn't VAR that is the problem, it shows the blatant corruption without any excuses for referees now.

If you get rid of VAR, you just gloss over the actual problem
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At least you don't have little nazi cunts trying their hardest to rule out goals and fans afraid to cheer.
 
Matt1882 said:
At least you don't have little nazi cunts trying their hardest to rule out goals and fans afraid to cheer.
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We used to get that anyway, to an extent.

TBH, I quite like the faint glimmer of hope I get when we conceded that it might be ruled out for a blatant offside or whatever.

I wish it was around for time likes pedro mendes's goal, the vertonghen "offside" and all that stuff. We sound like conspiracy theorists without VAR, and with it we at least get some validation even if it is corrupt at times
 
CJJ said:
We used to get that anyway, to an extent.

TBH, I quite like the faint glimmer of hope I get when we conceded that it might be ruled out for a blatant offside or whatever.

I wish it was around for time likes pedro mendes's goal, the vertonghen "offside" and all that stuff. We sound like conspiracy theorists without VAR, and with it we at least get some validation even if it is corrupt at times
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Don't need VAR for Pedro, goal line tech "works"
Although I'm not a fan of the "the whole of the ball has to be over the whole of the line" aspect.
If that's the case, I want that exact part of the line that the ball crossed checked to within a micron at the time of the goal as well as the ball itself. What is to stop teams making their goal lines slightly thicker if they want to play for draws more often than not?

Example
This - not a goal. Clearly. No doubt the ball is not over the line.
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This, absolute insanity that someone is saying that isn't a goal. And it happens a lot. It happened to us Vs Watford in a draw that we should have won.
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tart said:
I've just caught up with the Iheanacho 'handball' disallowed goal for Celtic against Braga. Jesus wept!

3min 15sec, if you've not seen it yet...


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EnwasKpIjE

Unbelievable!
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Just watched it - its very hard to see if it did actually hit his arm, its certainly not conclusive, so surely the goal has to stand. For VAR to say that was 100% handball just smacks of incompetence or corruption.

As bad as Michael Oliver on VAR calling this handball by Moura:

View: https://x.com/SkySportsPL/status/1278747285837545474

Or in the clip below with the Kane goal being given offside, when the lines from his arm were drawn the wrong distance to the pitch, and Forster jumping into Doherty, fumbling the ball and the ref saying Forster was fouled:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg0fcLUEWmA
 
Interesting article on the BBC - interview with ref, Anthony Taylor.

As proof of how disconnected refs are, here's this little gem:
Taylor says VAR has "completely shifted" the level of scrutiny.
"It brought this expectation of perfection that it would solve absolutely everybody's problems and it would be a utopia," he adds. In reality, those people were way off the mark. One week, people will say: 'We don't want VAR to be too forensic.' The next week they'll be going: 'How has VAR not intervened in this?'


Taylor really is clueless when he says this. People complain about using VAR and that it should be scrapped, as its ruining the enjoyment of the game especially when it goes to forensic levels (generally to disallow a goal), and is then insinuating we can't subsequently complain when watching an incident that VAR has not intervened in, or not got right.

Unfortunately for him, he thinks those 2 things are mutually exclusive. They are not. I hate VAR, but if we are stuck with it for the moment, then I have every right to moan whenever it has a howler (Kudus/Trafford incident against City being a prime example of multiple failings of the ref and VAR)


www.bbc.co.uk

Anthony Taylor: My family don't come to matches because of abuse

In an interview with the BBC, referee Anthony Taylor criticises the "expectation of perfection" culture officials are subject to.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
shempz said:
Interesting article on the BBC - interview with ref, Anthony Taylor.

As proof of how disconnected refs are, here's this little gem:
Taylor says VAR has "completely shifted" the level of scrutiny.
"It brought this expectation of perfection that it would solve absolutely everybody's problems and it would be a utopia," he adds. In reality, those people were way off the mark. One week, people will say: 'We don't want VAR to be too forensic.' The next week they'll be going: 'How has VAR not intervened in this?'


Taylor really is clueless when he says this. People complain about using VAR and that it should be scrapped, as its ruining the enjoyment of the game especially when it goes to forensic levels (generally to disallow a goal), and is then insinuating we can't subsequently complain when watching an incident that VAR has not intervened in, or not got right.

Unfortunately for him, he thinks those 2 things are mutually exclusive. They are not. I hate VAR, but if we are stuck with it for the moment, then I have every right to moan whenever it has a howler (Kudus/Trafford incident against City being a prime example of multiple failings of the ref and VAR)


www.bbc.co.uk

Anthony Taylor: My family don't come to matches because of abuse

In an interview with the BBC, referee Anthony Taylor criticises the "expectation of perfection" culture officials are subject to.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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Half a dozen well rounded fans who attend games regularly should be in charge of it.
Not the ones reviewing it, but the ones coming up with how it should be used.

I heard on the radio the other day that "on average" the VAR match delays added up to about 90 seconds a game.
How the fuck did they cheat the stats to come up with that BS? Did they include hundreds of game where VAR forgot to check anything?
 
shempz said:
Interesting article on the BBC - interview with ref, Anthony Taylor.

As proof of how disconnected refs are, here's this little gem:
Taylor says VAR has "completely shifted" the level of scrutiny.
"It brought this expectation of perfection that it would solve absolutely everybody's problems and it would be a utopia," he adds. In reality, those people were way off the mark. One week, people will say: 'We don't want VAR to be too forensic.' The next week they'll be going: 'How has VAR not intervened in this?'


Taylor really is clueless when he says this. People complain about using VAR and that it should be scrapped, as its ruining the enjoyment of the game especially when it goes to forensic levels (generally to disallow a goal), and is then insinuating we can't subsequently complain when watching an incident that VAR has not intervened in, or not got right.

Unfortunately for him, he thinks those 2 things are mutually exclusive. They are not. I hate VAR, but if we are stuck with it for the moment, then I have every right to moan whenever it has a howler (Kudus/Trafford incident against City being a prime example of multiple failings of the ref and VAR)


www.bbc.co.uk

Anthony Taylor: My family don't come to matches because of abuse

In an interview with the BBC, referee Anthony Taylor criticises the "expectation of perfection" culture officials are subject to.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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How tone deaf is this moron? None of us are expecting "perfection", but constant mistakes are made week after week, if the rest of us performed in our own job the way most PL refs perform in theirs, we'd be out the door.
 
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