• The Fighting Cock is a forum for fans of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. Here you can discuss Spurs latest matches, our squad, tactics and any transfer news surrounding the club. Registration gives you access to all our forums (including 'Off Topic' discussion) and removes most of the adverts (you can remove them all via an account upgrade). You're here now, you might as well...

    Get involved!

Match Spurs v Bodo/Glimt (A) - Champions League - Tues 30th Sept - KO: 8pm

Latest Spurs videos from Sky Sports

But do we actually really use counter attacks as a weapon?
I think most of the time that we recover the ball, we always regroup first with a number of passes. It leads to their teams being fully regrouped for defence and makes it even harder to create something.

At least under Conte and Mourinho, we were designed to break away fast when given the chance. I never see this under Frank.
Well yes, its been about the shape or getting back into it.
 
But do we actually really use counter attacks as a weapon?
I think most of the time that we recover the ball, we always regroup first with a number of passes. It leads to their teams being fully regrouped for defence and makes it even harder to create something.

At least under Conte and Mourinho, we were designed to break away fast when given the chance. I never see this under Frank.
Yes you do, the first goal against City and the last goal against Burnley.....🤷‍♂️.....we're not attacking great, but let's not bullshit to suit an agenda.....
 
Yes you do, the first goal against City and the last goal against Burnley.....🤷‍♂️.....we're not attacking great, but let's not bullshit to suit an agenda.....
And after that we stopped countering? As I've said many times, we looked good at the start of the season. Last few games I haven't even seen even an attempt of a real counter attack. Can you think of any examples that I've missed?
 
No question we were poor. We cannot play our strongest players every game, however Bodo away was to me harder than Wolves at home or Leeds away although we may not win any of them. The pitch did not help and I really think we just should be thankful we got a point and move on. We do need both our injured strikers back as Richie clearly cannot cope with playing this often.
 
No question we were poor. We cannot play our strongest players every game, however Bodo away was to me harder than Wolves at home or Leeds away although we may not win any of them. The pitch did not help and I really think we just should be thankful we got a point and move on. We do need both our injured strikers back as Richie clearly cannot cope with playing this often.
I always try and see the positive side, given that there is a 'learning curve' to be traversed in the early weeks and months of Thomas Frank. But that first 60' of our football in Bodø looked really poor.

There was precious little time for rest, travel and preparation, with just two days between Wolves and Glimt. Perhaps, with 20-20 hindsight, more time for training on the Bodø pitch might have been better than trying to keep our tactics private. After all, we prepared to sit deep, absorb pressure, and use the break, or at least faster transitions. Not such a big surprise.

I don't know enough about these things but the pitch seemed to ruffling up at certain points, and, though, yes, it needed watering, the torrents of uneven watering at half time looked odd. If Glimt were used to this, we weren't.

With three games in a week, we were obliged to rotate with little preparation. Frank's selection, plus the pitch, plus Glimt's surprisingly aggressive play seemed to interrupt our attacking patterns. But Bentancur didn't help with excessive conservatism. Johnson, who did put in a defensive shift, was out of the rest of the game, while Sarr – whom we'd expect to add attacking dynamism – seemed lost. Just not enough time to prepare I guess.

I hope we didn't underestimate Glimt, the best club in Norway with a brilliant Head Coach, who has managed to retain some pretty decent players in the last couple of seasons. Compared to us, they were well into the rhythm of their 'summer' season (22 games out of 30), and had that big plastic advantage. They've given a lot of decent teams a hard time in Bodø. This was never a gimme, and turned into a real uphill struggle in the early days of Frank.

So, I guess, credit that the substitutions restored parity and rescued the game.
 


So we're all saying Dortmund at home is our hardest game and damning Frank because we drew away in the north pole to Bodo.
And yet, Bodo went to Dortmund last night and took a point.

Bodo is a unique fixture. Their domestic season is over, they've played all 30 games. They're gelled and oiled. Most other European teams are still feeling their way into the 25/26 seasons.
When we played them in the Europa, it was the other way round.

So maybe that 2-2 draw away even earlier in our league season wasn't as bad as some make out.
 
Back
Top