Player Cristian Romero

[shempz]

had a poor game tonight but people blaming him for that goal either have an agenda or do not understand the game!

sarr shows for the ball, sarr also has a simple one touch square pass to bentancur, which is the correct thing to do and we are away, instead he tried to control the ball! thats on sarr and maybe bentancur as he should be screaming for the ball first time too!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYhJl50d0jA

3:36...romero does what hes supposed to do in that situation, he has fuck all on as they have squeezed up. a good side plays a simple one touch triangle there and they are off!

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His first mistake was knocking the ball backwards when receiving it rather than turning left (when facing Vicario) to instantly open up the right side of the pitch as an option. When he did turn inside though he had the option of a pass out to the left - Archie Gray was completely open in the left back position. He then dithered for a second or 2, was put under more pressure, and played Sarr into a lot of trouble.

When Romero was looking at Sarr and Sarr initially called for it, there was about 3yds between Sarr and the PSG player, by the time Romero decided to finally play it, the PSG player was less than a couple of yards away, and Sarr had to come about 5yds closer to the goal to receive it, as he knew he was under more pressure than he was initially.

 

[dondo]

Listen mate, I like Danso a lot as a person and he gives everything on the pitch, but he’s not defender for this level.
Romero has flaws, but let’s not act like he’s our biggest problem. I wish we had same level of players as him around the pitch. He’s not world class CB, but he’s good defender.
He had a shitshow tonight, that happens. Some 18 year old kid isn’t better than him, come on now.

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When did I say that vuskusic is better than Romero?

 

[Tanner Baw Player]

had a poor game tonight but people blaming him for that goal either have an agenda or do not understand the game!

sarr shows for the ball, sarr also has a simple one touch square pass to bentancur, which is the correct thing to do and we are away, instead he tried to control the ball! thats on sarr and maybe bentancur as he should be screaming for the ball first time too!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYhJl50d0jA

3:36...romero does what hes supposed to do in that situation, he has fuck all on as they have squeezed up. a good side plays a simple one touch triangle there and they are off!

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Romero dithers on the ball,Sarr is pointing for the pass ,it comes too late from Romero after he has lazily set up for Vics pass.
PSG defender has smelt blood and went through the side of Sarr as he got all the momentum…

A simple one touch square pass to Bents ????
You pulled that 1 out your ass….

 

[Timberwolf]

I think that's an accurate assessment.

Of course playing for Argentina is less frequent, so consistency in big one-off games is more likely, but the very very best can deliver top performances all year round.

Romero is not in that top billing in my opinion.

And as our captain, it's not an example that Frank should be happy with.

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I think he's one of those players that's better in a more dominant team. If he's playing higher up the pitch, given time to pick passes, can be aggressive and pressure the play, he can be really bloody good. I think that's at least part of the reason he looks better for Argentina, although I think he's also more committed and focused for his national team. He's always been a bit flaky but it's exacerbated by the team being a bit shit atm.

The closer is he is to his own box and forced to do the meat-and-potatoes defending, the worse he looks imo. Feel like he often loses men in the box from crosses, and isn't a top tier penalty box defender (and nor is VdV, tbh).

I really hope Vuskovic steps up soon as we could really use a physical monster at the back to just boss things, like Van Dijk did for Liverpool at his best.

 

[WinterWarrior]

The tough south american guy act has carried him for soo long, if he was a quiet reserved defender from somewhere in Europe he'd be gone by now.

 

[kingdawson]

had a poor game tonight but people blaming him for that goal either have an agenda or do not understand the game!

sarr shows for the ball, sarr also has a simple one touch square pass to bentancur, which is the correct thing to do and we are away, instead he tried to control the ball! thats on sarr and maybe bentancur as he should be screaming for the ball first time too!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYhJl50d0jA

3:36...romero does what hes supposed to do in that situation, he has fuck all on as they have squeezed up. a good side plays a simple one touch triangle there and they are off!

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The pass was on for Sarr initially but Romero delays and dithers on the ball rather then releasing it....then decided to release it when their player is right behind Sarr.

Romero is completely at fault.

 

[Notabadsquad]

I think he's one of those players that's better in a more dominant team. If he's playing higher up the pitch, given time to pick passes, can be aggressive and pressure the play, he can be really bloody good. I think that's at least part of the reason he looks better for Argentina, although I think he's also more committed and focused for his national team. He's always been a bit flaky but it's exacerbated by the team being a bit shit atm.

The closer is he is to his own box and forced to do the meat-and-potatoes defending, the worse he looks imo. Feel like he often loses men in the box from crosses, and isn't a top tier penalty box defender (and nor is VdV, tbh).

I really hope Vuskovic steps up soon as we could really use a physical monster at the back to just boss things, like Van Dijk did for Liverpool at his best.

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Difficult to be definitive about Romero, and to a large extent Van Der Ven, because one coupd argue they don't get able cover.

That being said, they are not a patch on Saliba and Gabriel, but how would they look if Rice and Zubimendi were in front of them - one of those unknowns.

I just think we need really capable players who other players can respect, fear to an extent and emulate, whatever their position and in particular as captain.

We have none of that, so judgements are very difficult.

It's also fair but an indictment that we have nobody who would realistically be captain material aside from Romero.

 

[whenstevewentup]

I think both he and VDV have been poor in the last 2 games , they have been very erratic , I’m not romeros biggest fan , his head goes too easily and he’s not dominating unless he’s right up someone’s backside. I am concerned by the amount of chances teams create against us when we have our best defence out there and holders in front . Not sure what the answer is cos we won’t be upgrading any of them anytime soon .

 

[TheSpurEst]

He's the most overrated player at the club tbh. Constantly hear people on Spurs podcasts say he's world class, our best player, etc, but he blows way too hot and cold for my liking. He's capable of excellent line-breaking passes, but he doesn't do it consistently and sometimes his passing is outright dreadful. He can be an excellent front foot defender, but he has pretty regular brain-farts, lapses in concentration, loses his man, etc.

I guess on peak form he probably is our best player but how often do we see that? 30-40% of the time? At most? He's definitely better for Argentina than he is for Spurs, that's for sure.

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Show me a person who says that Romero is the best player in the club and I will show you a person who knows absolutely nothing at all about football.

He has not been the best CB in the club for years now. Not to mention best player.
What you want from CB is consistent and error-free performances. He is a showreel defender who can tackle aggressively and do some shithousery stuff, but his concentration in most games is straight up poor.

Best showreel =/= best defender. Simple as.

 

[Shotgunofmichalebrow]

Show me a person who says that Romero is the best player in the club and I will show you a person who knows absolutely nothing at all about football.

He has not been the best CB in the club for years now. Not to mention best player.
What you want from CB is consistent and error-free performances. He is a showreel defender who can tackle aggressively and do some shithousery stuff, but his concentration in most games is straight up poor.

Best showreel =/= best defender. Simple as.

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Spot on. I firmly believe him to be a liability. He'll have another game where he bullies that coward Haaland and the easily fooled will be telling you he's the greatest again, he isn't. Centerback is about consistent marking, blocking, reading the game, its not judged on line breaking passes or running the whole pitch and scoring worldies. Some nut said was better than King after the EL hes not even on the same continent, he isnt as good as either Toby or Jan. That PSG goal is all on him he just acts in slow motion and then( and he does this ALOT ) gives you a hospital pass.

 

[manmountainbutters]

Difficult to be definitive about Romero, and to a large extent Van Der Ven, because one coupd argue they don't get able cover.

That being said, they are not a patch on Saliba and Gabriel, but how would they look if Rice and Zubimendi were in front of them - one of those unknowns.

I just think we need really capable players who other players can respect, fear to an extent and emulate, whatever their position and in particular as captain.

We have none of that, so judgements are very difficult.

It's also fair but an indictment that we have nobody who would realistically be captain material aside from Romero.

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I'd say potentially JP is captain material. He gives everything. Also think in future Bergvall is.

CB is our strongest area squad wise. So if Vuskovic continues his development this season then I have no problem punting Romero and promoting Danso and Vuskovic. As long as the proceeds are a net addition to the transfer budget (which they won't be!)

 

[spursfan76]

He's the most overrated player at the club tbh. Constantly hear people on Spurs podcasts say he's world class, our best player, etc, but he blows way too hot and cold for my liking. He's capable of excellent line-breaking passes, but he doesn't do it consistently and sometimes his passing is outright dreadful. He can be an excellent front foot defender, but he has pretty regular brain-farts, lapses in concentration, loses his man, etc.

I guess on peak form he probably is our best player but how often do we see that? 30-40% of the time? At most? He's definitely better for Argentina than he is for Spurs, that's for sure.

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Agree with most, except for the myth that he's the best on peak form. Whenever he has a normal game and doesn't do any errors, he's all of a sudden hyped as world class. But when has he ever had a truly world class performance? Something that you, for example, don't see in other defenders in the premier league?

When has he ever stood out? He doesn't have any world class attributes. Not particularly strong, fast, good at reading the game, etc.

On peak form, VDV is 10x the defender. He can actually do something spectacular, has maybe the best pace in the world among top defenders, can carry the ball from defence to attack, and actually sniffs danger, such as in the Europa League final. It's not even close between them.

 

[manmountainbutters]

Agree with most, except for the myth that he's the best on peak form. Whenever he has a normal game and doesn't do any errors, he's all of a sudden hyped as world class. But when has he ever had a truly world class performance? Something that you, for example, don't see in other defenders in the premier league?

When has he ever stood out? He doesn't have any world class attributes. Not particularly strong, fast, good at reading the game, etc.

On peak form, VDV is 10x the defender. He can actually do something spectacular, has maybe the best pace in the world among top defenders, can carry the ball from defence to attack, and actually sniffs danger, such as in the Europa League final. It's not even close between them.

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VDV is a better player yes.

On form Romero is very good at passing and heading (defensively and offensive). But makes too many mistakes. And is overrated.

 

[Merl]

Without a doubt the most overrated player by our fanbase.

On his day - very good.
But he's just far too inconsistent to be considered elite or world class.

 

[WillWilliams]

His first mistake was knocking the ball backwards when receiving it rather than turning left (when facing Vicario) to instantly open up the right side of the pitch as an option. When he did turn inside though he had the option of a pass out to the left - Archie Gray was completely open in the left back position. He then dithered for a second or 2, was put under more pressure, and played Sarr into a lot of trouble.

When Romero was looking at Sarr and Sarr initially called for it, there was about 3yds between Sarr and the PSG player, by the time Romero decided to finally play it, the PSG player was less than a couple of yards away, and Sarr had to come about 5yds closer to the goal to receive it, as he knew he was under more pressure than he was initially.

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Those clips show just how fast the game is which cameras hide.

The main take from this is VDV position.

Bentacour should have bust a gut to make an angle for a pass.
Instead he ends up standing directly behind a PSG player. Lack of awareness really from Bentacour.
No idea why VDV is on the wing either.

And a pass to Gray was never on. That would have been intercepted 100% at that distance between him and Romero.

 

[CroSpurs]

When did I say that vuskusic is better than Romero?

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Not you, but people on this topic saying Vuskovic and VdV should be pairing next season. Ridiculous.

 

[Shadydan]

Once again blaming individuals for goals is pointless, that's not how football works, it's a collective issue, not just on one player.

Just like when people blamed Spence for the goal we conceded against Chelsea, it was a collective issue.

There's a lot more to it than just blaming individual for isolated moments, much more nuance that you'll realise because football isn't played in moments, it's played in real time - The coaching staff will be looking at events leading up to the goal way before the ball was given away.

I'm more actually pissed off that he didn't go and clap the fans again tbh, I heard he went as far as the half way line and bounced, that is shit from a captain and the manager really needs to crack down in it.

 

[daveyboy88]

A simple one touch square pass to Bents ????

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do you think sarr is trying to play a first time pass or get the ball under control?

 

[daveyboy88]

His first mistake was knocking the ball backwards when receiving it rather than turning left (when facing Vicario) to instantly open up the right side of the pitch as an option. When he did turn inside though he had the option of a pass out to the left - Archie Gray was completely open in the left back position. He then dithered for a second or 2, was put under more pressure, and played Sarr into a lot of trouble.

When Romero was looking at Sarr and Sarr initially called for it, there was about 3yds between Sarr and the PSG player, by the time Romero decided to finally play it, the PSG player was less than a couple of yards away, and Sarr had to come about 5yds closer to the goal to receive it, as he knew he was under more pressure than he was initially.

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so what do you think sarr is doing? he has bentancur in space 7 yards away and has a man up his arse, the ball was played to his left foot but his right foot has gone to touch the ball....this is poor play from sarr, thats an easy first time pass with the side of his left foot, hardly hard.

if sarr plays that first time to bentancur, everyone says its a good bit of play, because we are away, well knowing bentancur he would probably turn back and pass again to romero.

 

[shempz]

And a pass to Gray was never on. That would have been intercepted 100% at that distance between him and Romero.

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For our world class ball playing centre back, that was an easy pass that would not have been intercepted unless he tapped it slowly across the pitch.