Were a much bigger club, bigger resources, bigger stadium. Tbh I still think he might not understand the logic why they call themselves palace with a stadium like that.
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That’s not what Glasner is saying though.
He is saying they needed to spend more. That’s his issue.
Hot take: Frank's hasn't managed to sort the defense out, and that's a way bigger thorn in our side than the attack that's somehow sitting T-4th in goals.
Taken together, this decreased emphasis on open play and an accompanying high emphasis on set pieces has reduced skill gap between teams significantly this season. Burnleys and Forests of the world cannot pass the ball as well as Citys and Liverpools, but they can head it just fine.
The relevance of this leaguwide trend for us is that, despite the common complaints about attackers, we still would be more than okay if we could simply defend at a level that you would expect from these group of players. In other words, let's try not being 13th in xGA and T-7th in GA first, the latter being in a strong downward trajectory to match the former for quite some time now.
15 GA in the last 9 league games with a defensive line that's been intact cannot reasonably be interpreted in a flattering way. And no, playing hideous football means just that: It doesn't indicate that you've sacrificed attacking firepower for defensive solidity.
Taken together, this decreased emphasis on open play and an accompanying high emphasis on set pieces has reduced skill gap between teams significantly this season. Burnleys and Forests of the world cannot pass the ball as well as Citys and Liverpools, but they can head it just fine.
The relevance of this leaguwide trend for us is that, despite the common complaints about attackers, we still would be more than okay if we could simply defend at a level that you would expect from these group of players. In other words, let's try not being 13th in xGA and T-7th in GA first, the latter being in a strong downward trajectory to match the former for quite some time now.
15 GA in the last 9 league games with a defensive line that's been intact cannot reasonably be interpreted in a flattering way. And no, playing hideous football means just that: It doesn't indicate that you've sacrificed attacking firepower for defensive solidity.
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Hot take: Frank's hasn't managed to sort the defense out, and that's a way bigger thorn in our side than the attack that's somehow sitting T-4th in goals.
Taken together, this decreased emphasis on open play and an accompanying high emphasis on set pieces has reduced skill gap between teams significantly this season. Burnleys and Forests of the world cannot pass the ball as well as Citys and Liverpools, but they can head it just fine.
The relevance of this leaguwide trend for us is that, despite the common complaints about attackers, we still would be more than okay if we could simply defend at a level that you would expect from these group of players. In other words, let's try not being 13th in xGA and T-7th in GA first, the latter being in a strong downward trajectory to match the former for quite some time now.
15 GA in the last 9 league games with a defensive line that's been intact cannot reasonably be interpreted in a flattering way. And no, playing hideous football means just that: It doesn't indicate that you've sacrificed attacking firepower for defensive solidity.
I think he wanted us to be tighter defensively but he’s been faced with criticism of us not attacking so has abandoned some of his principles. Trouble is now, we can’t attack still and the defence is full of holes.
If I were him, I’d pick an eleven he thinks is the strongest and keep playing it then sub in players instead of rotation. Get some familiarity going. Trouble is, he should have done that weeks ago but couldn’t because players kept letting him down. Now it’s too late as he is starting to get under pressure. I don’t think he is in trouble internally yet from those above, just a couple of wins and we’d be top four with how congested it is, but the trouble is the next few games are difficult.
Not really
Managers would prefer working with a bigger squad than a smaller one, Glasner's issue is that his squad is too small to cope with playing in Europe as well...garantee he'd prefer to have more options than nothing at all.
Wouldnt be surprised if Liverpool sounded him out.
Can you lend me 50 quid? - I'll pay you back with interest next week.
Good post!
Being objective about our Europa League run to the final doesn’t negate the enjoyment of the win or make you any less of a Spurs fan.
It really pisses me off when people make out as such.
We’re trying to dissect the long term problems of the club (which started waayyyyyy before this season) in the hope that we can return to regular winning ways on the pitch.
Edit: I think
Furball man
nailed it in his post - It’s very likely player complacency at the root of the issues.
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To be fair this is one of the same youtubers who said Postecoglou will revolutionise tottenham.
And that our depending under Postecoglou will revolutionise the Premier leagues way of defending
Isn’t Glasner more of a counter attacking coach ? Not sure fans would tolerate it after what we’ve had to endure.
What do you mean he won't be any worse than Ange? Frank ain't finishing fifth this season. We won't be in Europe next season. We won't win a trophy under Frank. All of that makes him worse than Ange.
Bodo played us off the park earlier this season. Just a few months after we'd beaten comprehensively over 2 legs.
Possibly not the best example you could have drawn on to make your point
But more importantly is there any evidence - any data whatsoever- you can provide to refute my thesis that Postecoglou was actually overachieving with this squad in his time at Spurs?
We are 13 games in. Any data at all you can point to that suggests I'm wrong and you were right?
Asking for a fanbase desperately looking for hope.
And please don't deflect by pretending I'm making a "pro Postecoglou" argument. I'm making a purely data empirical argument. We now have 13 games of data having replaced Postecoglou with a very decent contemporary in Thomas Frank
Where is the improvement? Is there ANYTHING you can point too?
Or was I right all along and the real problem is the squad? That ANY manager is doomed to failure by the entire process - including fan expectation and patience.
Derangers fighting the wrong battles at the wrong time is the very essence of Derangement. As I warned you the "next guy" is now getting the exact same sacky sack treatment you dished out to the last guy. The cycle will always cycle.
That and pissing on the greatest Spurs moment in 40 years. I cannot over-stress what a calamitous decision it was for you people to deny yourselves that moment. All because you wanted to win internet shitfights over a manager. Just so, so very very sad.
Because a group/league stage game is an entirely different prospect to that level of footballer than a semi final. Different time of the season/weather too - the only “intimidating” thing about Bodo is the freezing pitch which we didn’t actually face in the semi final, we also got the home leg in first so took a nice lead to Bodo. Made life easier.
Yes. 17th. 38 points. There’s no data whatsoever that says anything other than this was the worst Spurs league season in modern premier league history. Frank also struggling doesn’t mean Ange was overachieving.
17th is data. The worst non-relegated team.
We are higher in the league than we ended up under Ange - and regardless it’s pretty clear Frank isn’t doing very well. It’s entirely possible someone else would do better.
Talking “fan expectation” and “patience” in the context of being the worst non-relegated team in the premier league is silly. We lost twenty odd games. Ange got sacked because for over a year the club had been in a doom spiral, starting at the end of his first season & then leading in to an entire season of garbage. There was no progress. *
Another manager is getting criticised for getting really bad results? This isn’t derangement, it’s just a modern premier league football club. That’s how it works.
Me being able, as an adult, to objectively look at that Europa league win and who we beat and view the achievement in that context does not mean it wasn’t enjoyable to win. I don’t feel the need to big up Ange’s accomplishment to have enjoyed the experience. It was great fun, it was also very low quality.
*He then carried on being a total loser for Forest. The only time he overachieved was in his first season, and even then with a heavy dose of context and the more time he got with the team the worst results became. The guy was rubbish. Frank doing rubbish doesn’t equate to him being good.
No it doesn’t.
- Ange had a still firing Son and one match a week when we finished 5th. Also a fit and firing Maddison. Those two dragged us there.
- We won’t win a trophy because we’re not in the EL this season and the other trophies available to us are harder to win. Ange didn’t win any of these trophies so it isn’t a fair comparison.
Next two games key for Frank. Lose to Newcastle then humbled by his old club Brentford will seal his fate imo. Cant deny Frank is a nice guy. But managing tottenham is the show.
Hopefully he'll have the Ludo board with him, to make it simple for us.
was that when "fans" were singing "You don't what you're doing" after he made his sub and his sub scored?
Depends if you're gonna invest in some players or not, if you're gonna spend it on escorts and crack then you can do one
Oh no, I'll definitely buy some players with it. Really good ones.