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Manager Thomas Frank
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I cant see Frank getting a billion pound to spend over 6 years with just a fa cup to show like legohead.
As I said last season and this. They hid behind Ange. He was a lot to blame last season for, which we’ve all discussed to death. But the players hid. We got the bullshit apologies but they kept making mistakes and letting us down. The same thing has continued this season with them coming out apologising. It’s PR, face saving bollocks. The club should stop it. All it does is breed an excuses culture.
It is easy to say sack the manager but the football has been horrendous since the 3 nil defeat to Fulham in March 2024. We’d smashed Villa 4 nil away from home the week before but all of a sudden the wheels came off. They haven’t been put back on since then. The football has been shit, in the main, since then. Trouble is, memories are unbelievably short nowadays. It seems fans have forgotten how bad we have been. Now something’s rotten in the state of Denmark.
I honestly do wonder if he’s picking the tactics to match the players.
Who do we have that has looked anywhere near capable of picking up the ball in the final third and progressing it effectively into their box?
We surrender possession far too easily in the final third.
It was right for Ange to be sacked but at least we were comfortable in possession under him. The players are capable of keeping possession but under Frank it's gone out the window. There is no attacking interchanges, killer passes or guile. I think hes tried 2 or 3 types of tactics last 3 games and we've lost all of them. Think the players have lost faith with him tbh.
Frank has been a disappointment thus far. I don't see any need or basis to dispute that.
He hasn't created stability,which I would translate to a measure of control on the pitch. Not flashy football because Frank does not give the impression his teams play like that,but functional capability. Absent.
There appears to be disharmony within the players which is a surprise but it's apparent and it can't support togetherness on the pitch.
Talk of Frank sussing out Tel and Johnson as not being good enough just talks to personal viewpoints and makes no sense when those he is picking are performing so poorly.
It's nothing to do with the club being broken neither, but it is continuing from last season's PL struggles and beginning to break the fans.
I have no idea whatsoever how this pans out. None whatsoever.
The board should back Frank but I am not sure why or for how long, with January's window looming. To keep Frank in post, and separating the cost of paying him (and staff) off is secondary to the price of being relegated,and anyone who disputes that possibility is being a bit naive.
To retain Frank into the New Year, there needs to be real confidence that backing him with more signings will see on-field improvements. Or we acquire players in preparation regardless. We need additions.
A whole squad without a player who provides a spark and yet with so much spent, beggars belief, but that's where we are.
Like last season however, the squad is not so bad as to not be able to beat certain teams at our ground, and more generally the lack of anything coherent is an indictment and if the next 5 games yield less than 6 points, is surely unsustainable
Club must come first.
He hasn't created stability,which I would translate to a measure of control on the pitch. Not flashy football because Frank does not give the impression his teams play like that,but functional capability. Absent.
There appears to be disharmony within the players which is a surprise but it's apparent and it can't support togetherness on the pitch.
Talk of Frank sussing out Tel and Johnson as not being good enough just talks to personal viewpoints and makes no sense when those he is picking are performing so poorly.
It's nothing to do with the club being broken neither, but it is continuing from last season's PL struggles and beginning to break the fans.
I have no idea whatsoever how this pans out. None whatsoever.
The board should back Frank but I am not sure why or for how long, with January's window looming. To keep Frank in post, and separating the cost of paying him (and staff) off is secondary to the price of being relegated,and anyone who disputes that possibility is being a bit naive.
To retain Frank into the New Year, there needs to be real confidence that backing him with more signings will see on-field improvements. Or we acquire players in preparation regardless. We need additions.
A whole squad without a player who provides a spark and yet with so much spent, beggars belief, but that's where we are.
Like last season however, the squad is not so bad as to not be able to beat certain teams at our ground, and more generally the lack of anything coherent is an indictment and if the next 5 games yield less than 6 points, is surely unsustainable
Club must come first.
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Because we are so lightweight in the attacking areas of the pitch
Who do we have capable of a killer pass?
Romero maybe, but you can’t have your CB as your primary playmaker.
Guile? A lot of the players don’t have the stones for a fight!
Persisting with Richarlison is his downfall as well.
The alternatives are equally as bad
Ange had near £500m before showing anything didn't he
Nor if true a player of the quality of Eze getting on the blower to Frank , hey I’m finished at my current club and I’d really like a gig at Tottenham , I’ll get my agent to give a buzz
Can he play a up front on his own in the premier league
The difference is that Ange had a season and a half before it happened. His time here was a relatively progressive decline, taking on a top 5 side and turning it into a 17th place finish. The decline was a symptom of things not improving.
You're writing off a manager who is, essentially, trying to recover from that decline.
If it were Poch here, people would be coming up with all sorts to justify this - "same squad that finished 17th" "time to change the mentality" etc
What on earth is he talking about? He is just saying we should not demand better than the shite he is serving up. Such excuse ridden nonsense you would only hear from unambitious teams.
I think so, as his ball control has looked good and he’s strong enough to hold up the ball.
What’s questionable is whether he’ll get adequate service to be effective!
We won europa league.