Ex-Spurs Player Brennan Johnson

[Deuterz]

Correct.

Just fcuking use Johnson where he is able to utilise his ability. ...to score goals

Frank is fcukimg clueless.

Nobody tell me it made sense not to either start him yesterday or bring him on much earlier

Bias is a bad bad thing.

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We create literally no tap ins for him to tap away. Our entire reliance is on stuff like Kudus beating 2-3 men.

I have no idea why anyone would think putting Brennan in (at the expense of Kudus?) for the non existent service he will be getting. Kudus is the only one creating anything in open play!

He can’t do anything else. We have insanely low xG. You service him with high xG chances or he doesn’t exist.

 

[TheSpurEst]

Correct.

Just fcuking use Johnson where he is able to utilise his ability. ...to score goals

Frank is fcukimg clueless.

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As I said few weeks ago - I have many issues with Frank. But not getting best out all around poor footballer that is Brennan is not one of them.

Sure, Johnson has his specific quality - to finish chances. But at the same time we as a team struggle to actually create those chances to be put away. So there is logic of not using him.

My post was not to praise Johnson but to point out that there are teams out there that are able to carry passenger with some goals in them. And there are teams that are not. We are one of those who are not able to do it.

 

[The Extra Mile(sey)]

I do not rate Brennan Johnson as an attacker ... nor footballer.

But at the same time I would argue that he would be "good enough" for ManCity. Meaning - he could be useful for a top side that has everything in place. Strong midfield. Very technical players. Lot of threat all around him. They could afford to have a player in some certain situations (clearly not 90 minutes every game, more like mostly a substitute to bring on in some situations and even potentially start on some others) that is there to finish off the chances. We cannot afford it cause we don't have the foundations in place for it. But weirdly enough, they could.

I am not comparing him in any real sense to Haaland, cause there is just no comparison. But just as principle - Haaland is there in their side as someone to have very limited involvement outside of goals. Waiting for his moment to finish the chance. Clearly he is way more physical, faster, with even better finishing and all. But principle is the same - others do the tempo-controlling and then there is a lad who has one single task - put the ball to the net.

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He wouldn't get into city's under 21 side

 

[Deuterz]

As I said few weeks ago - I have many issues with Frank. But not getting best out all around poor footballer that is Brennan is not one of them.

Sure, Johnson has his specific quality - to finish chances. But at the same time we as a team struggle to actually create those chances to be put away. So there is logic of not using him.

My post was not to praise Johnson but to point out that there are teams out there that are able to carry passenger with some goals in them. And there are teams that are not. We are one of those who are not able to do it.

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Which is why Palace want him .. rotate with Sarr as a finisher role in a team which do create the kind of chances he likes and play entirely on transition.

 

[McCOYS]

Well I mean I get what both of you mean. But I have to say, I do not agree.

Yes, we do need players in other positions. Which is exactly why we should cash in on him if there is any real interest at all. Let's not beat around the bush here. Players who are ahead of him in pecking order into forward positions are - Kudus, Richie, Kolo Muani, Xavi, Odobert and Tel. That is SIX players. Before we factor in potential returnees in Solanke and Kulusevski (!). And also SIX players into either 3 positions or if we'd actually play with 2 up front then 5 for 2 positions (virtually moving Xavi from attacking department to midfield).

That is plenty. That means we just don't really find use for him. It is just as plain as that.
If alternatives are to keep him as player who we hardly use as it stands - from last 10 EPL games he has played 300 minutes out of 900, so 33% all while contributing 0 goals and 0 assists during that - or to use potential proceeds of 25-30 mil from his sale, it becomes quite clear we would be better off cashing in and reinvesting. Assuming someone is willing to pay that kind of money for him. If we talk about like 10-15 mil, then the answer will be different.

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The main right side forwards out of all the fit ones are Kudus and Johnson, the others and I use the term loosely 'specialise' in LWF CF. So if we sell Johnson and we'll need to move a player who prefers to play centrally or left, into the right position.

Why fuck about with that when we need one decent player on the left and better CMs the right forward side doesn't need such attention right now, so we sell a player and weaken that position too.

It's just an opinion.

 

[TheSpurEst]

The main right side forwards out of all the fit ones are Kudus and Johnson, the others and I use the term loosely 'specialise' in LWF CF. So if we sell Johnson and we'll need to move a player who prefers to play centrally or left, into the right position.

Why fuck about with that when we need one decent player on the left and better CMs the right forward side doesn't need such attention right now.

It's just an opinion.

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Yea, I agree that none of my mentioned ones are specialist RWs.

But in current situation all of them (and that includes Richie and Odobert and Tel) would be more useful in this position at this point. Which just shows how useless Johnson is for us. As proven by 0 goals and 0 assists in last 10 EPL rounds.

Also just my personal opinion.

 

[McCOYS]

Yea, I agree that none of my mentioned ones are specialist RWs.

But in current situation all of them (and that includes Richie and Odobert and Tel) would be more useful in this position at this point. Which just shows how useless Johnson is for us. As proven by 0 goals and 0 assists in last 10 EPL rounds.

Also just my personal opinion.

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He was scoring more last season as we all know ''Johnson again'' but since Kudus arrived he been played out on the left a couple of times, and often used as a substitute.

I don't want to keep him long term but I think we should just until Kulusevski comes back or if he's not going to play RW then get someone else lined up. Most if not all the LW players are shit even in their favoured position. Is there any point in selling Johnson to move Odobert out right, he too has done pretty much nothing this season, ditto Tel. Richarlison isn't a winger he's more of a left side forward, and not a very impressive one.

I wouldn't be against selling Johnson, Tel, Odobert, Richarlison, Solanke, I'm in two minds about Kudus, but we need to cut our loses and get replacements. It's such a bag of shit. Mid table dross.

 

[Notabadsquad]

As I said few weeks ago - I have many issues with Frank. But not getting best out all around poor footballer that is Brennan is not one of them.

Sure, Johnson has his specific quality - to finish chances. But at the same time we as a team struggle to actually create those chances to be put away. So there is logic of not using him.

My post was not to praise Johnson but to point out that there are teams out there that are able to carry passenger with some goals in them. And there are teams that are not. We are one of those who are not able to do it.

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Right, however which way, I assume you saw that so-called display yesterday?

What part of any of that was better than what Johnson might have offered?

 

[Deuterz]

Right, however which way, I assume you saw that so-called display yesterday?

What part of any of that was better than what Johnson might have offered?

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What part of when he was on the pitch was better than the bit before he was on the pitch?

We don’t have to imagine this stuff. He came on. Not for that long but long enough for a winger to make an impact. Wide players with fresh legs force changes to games all the time. He did nothing.

 

[Notabadsquad]

What part of when he was on the pitch was better than the bit before he was on the pitch?

We don’t have to imagine this stuff. He came on. Not for that long but long enough for a winger to make an impact. Wide players with fresh legs force changes to games all the time. He did nothing.

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At 3 nil.

Give me strength.

It's fine. Frank has your bias as well.

You will still be a fan when Frank's gone, which will be before Johnson at this rate.

 

[VonnegutBusy]

Correct.

Just fcuking use Johnson where he is able to utilise his ability. ...to score goals

Frank is fcukimg clueless.

Nobody tell me it made sense not to either start him yesterday or bring him on much earlier

Bias is a bad bad thing.

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Absolute twaddle

 

[Shotgunofmichalebrow]

Which is why Palace want him .. rotate with Sarr as a finisher role in a team which do create the kind of chances he likes and play entirely on transition.

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Im really not of a mind to do any business with Palace if hes wanted else where jerk them around then sell him.

 

[Rooster the 2nd]

We create literally no tap ins for him to tap away. Our entire reliance is on stuff like Kudus beating 2-3 men.

I have no idea why anyone would think putting Brennan in (at the expense of Kudus?) for the non existent service he will be getting. Kudus is the only one creating anything in open play!

He can’t do anything else. We have insanely low xG. You service him with high xG chances or he doesn’t exist.

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The main problem is our midfield. We cannot hold on to the ball nor can we create anything. We need Madds back and we need to ad a creative midfielder in Jan. We don't play well when we don't have a Eriksen or Madds playing in mid.

 

[Maccer]

He wouldn't get into city's under 21 side

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He wouldn't get into City's over 51 side either.

 

[TheSpurEst]

Right, however which way, I assume you saw that so-called display yesterday?

What part of any of that was better than what Johnson might have offered?

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Are you serious with that question?

Cause I do honestly think that with Johnson instead of Kudus we would have finished the game with 0 shots made (ok, maybe that 1 Gray shot). Cause what Johnson offers in such games is absolute zero. Nothing. Playing with 10 men. Starting him would have meant that Kolo Muani and Xavi would have been even more tightly marked cause literally every coach in EPL know the following truth:

Johnson is finisher of chances. And we had no chances to finish.
If you do not understand something so basic, there is no point to even have discussion with you...

 

[TheSpurEst]

He was scoring more last season as we all know ''Johnson again'' but since Kudus arrived he been played out on the left a couple of times, and often used as a substitute.

I don't want to keep him long term but I think we should just until Kulusevski comes back or if he's not going to play RW then get someone else lined up. Most if not all the LW players are shit even in their favoured position. Is there any point in selling Johnson to move Odobert out right, he too has done pretty much nothing this season, ditto Tel. Richarlison isn't a winger he's more of a left side forward, and not a very impressive one.

I wouldn't be against selling Johnson, Tel, Odobert, Richarlison, Solanke, I'm in two minds about Kudus, but we need to cut our loses and get replacements. It's such a bag of shit. Mid table dross.

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Yea, agreed with most of it.
Kudus has played on RW for good reason - cause he is only player with ball retention ability in our forward line. This surely has impacted Johnsons performances too. But I mean it is not unfair to him. Cause football is team game and we need more of what Kudus is offering. So he should be able to adjust. Which he hasnt.

Also fully agreed that Odobert has hardly pulled up any trees either.
Despite that, I'd say there is little bit more hope with him. He is ~3 years younger and he is better with ball on his feet (though weaker in finishing). Again - my view between the options is wider than player 1 vs player 2. It is about what would benefit the whole squad more - either to have Johnson around (used with low frequency and even lower efficiency) or to sell him and replace with someone who'd fit better.

P.S and once more - based on current state I would repeat my point that I think we should play with 2 forwards and an extra midfielder. Which means that actually we wouldn't need a RW to begin with. For 2 forwards the pecking order for me at this point would be - Kolo Muani, Kudus, Tel and Richie/Scarlett drawn on 4th place.

 

[Rooster the 2nd]

Im really not of a mind to do any business with Palace if hes wanted else where jerk them around then sell him.

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Trade him for Munoz or Guehi~~~and some cash.

 

[Brian Fantana]

What part of when he was on the pitch was better than the bit before he was on the pitch?

We don’t have to imagine this stuff. He came on. Not for that long but long enough for a winger to make an impact. Wide players with fresh legs force changes to games all the time. He did nothing.

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He did his usual shit of shirking challenges, not wanting to get hurt, work hard or make himself available. Honestly, if people can’t see it by now then this sport really isn’t for them.

 

[Notabadsquad]

Are you serious with that question?

Cause I do honestly think that with Johnson instead of Kudus we would have finished the game with 0 shots made (ok, maybe that 1 Gray shot). Cause what Johnson offers in such games is absolute zero. Nothing. Playing with 10 men. Starting him would have meant that Kolo Muani and Xavi would have been even more tightly marked cause literally every coach in EPL know the following truth:

Johnson is finisher of chances. And we had no chances to finish.
If you do not understand something so basic, there is no point to even have discussion with you...

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So bizarre a response as pointless to give it the reply it deserves.

 

[McCOYS]

Yea, agreed with most of it.
Kudus has played on RW for good reason - cause he is only player with ball retention ability in our forward line. This surely has impacted Johnsons performances too. But I mean it is not unfair to him. Cause football is team game and we need more of what Kudus is offering. So he should be able to adjust. Which he hasnt.

Also fully agreed that Odobert has hardly pulled up any trees either.
Despite that, I'd say there is little bit more hope with him. He is ~3 years younger and he is better with ball on his feet (though weaker in finishing). Again - my view between the options is wider than player 1 vs player 2. It is about what would benefit the whole squad more - either to have Johnson around (used with low frequency and even lower efficiency) or to sell him and replace with someone who'd fit better.

P.S and once more - based on current state I would repeat my point that I think we should play with 2 forwards and an extra midfielder. Which means that actually we wouldn't need a RW to begin with. For 2 forwards the pecking order for me at this point would be - Kolo Muani, Kudus, Tel and Richie/Scarlett drawn on 4th place.

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Yeah I think we should pack the midfield. While Johnson is here why not try and use his best attributes which are finishing and pace. He might be good playing as part of a two so putting him up against most CBs, would be ok as long as he doesn't have to fight for the ball, but rather needs balls to chase onto. It's at least going to give other teams something to consider being unable to push up with the risk of balls over the top vs his pace. We'd need to be canny and have him stand near to the slowest CB.

It's not going to work against teams that park the bus, and it won't work unless there's a midfielder who can actually pick out the pass. Which is another problem we have, we're not a good passing team.

I bet if Harry Redknapp was manager he's have tried it.