Wasn’t fine - it was cagey, backwards nothing
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Think this poll was created a long time ago when the situation wasn't quite as dire as it is now and some people just haven't bothered changing their votes since then. If the poll was restarted now I guess that number would be significantly lower.
Agree with this. You won’t need to worry about them backing Frank next month, I can tell you they won’t.
The disintegration of the club feels like it’s by design. They’re just another Mike Ashley.
- We've only lost one Champions League game. It was enough for Ange to hang on in the 2nd tier of Europe.
- We've given him a Lidl off-brand attack, whilst our most creative and useful players are out injured.
- He's getting some kind of tune out of Richi
- He has been dealt a harsh hand by being given a Xavi Simons lookalike instead of wherever the real one is
- He's been given a striker that can only score against his parent club
- Vicario has turned into Onana all of a sudden
Someone said to me today frank needs time. But defeat after defeat after defeat there comes a point where you have to pull the trigger.
Something about the Diamond not working today?
Bloke is a twat!
But is the fact there is no obvious replacement a reason to keep him? I’m not sure it is. Squad is nowhere near good enough but I don’t think he is either
I've been banging this fucking drum on here for years
Yeah, owners are always looking to destroy their 3 billion pound business so they can sell a distressed asset at a knockdown price.
How many villages did it take to raise this idiot? .
We are going to get relegated
So do you just like being super dramatic??
Are you in panto at the moment??
Should we call you Buttons??
No idea what he has posted but butt should be somewhere in the name we should call him.
Do you think it is a Woolwich conspiracy?
Spurs relegated while they challenge for the title.
Oh no i'm not !
But seriously look at our form over the last 12 months
I have more respect for people like Merson WHEN they talk sense. A lot of the time it's just smack-talk against rival teams, but he's spot on with this.
I’d say it is. I’d hope he’d work more miracles than he has. But such is reality and we’re not a very good team, lack leadership, etc. The only reason to pull the plug early is because you truly believe there’s a significant upgrade out there. And yes, pulling the plug at half a season is pulling very early, especially on a team that finished 17th, has major players out, and frankly is just not that great. I think if you’re gonna run a club that way, we will never be any good. There’s lots of ups and downs throughout a season so he definitely deserves at least one full one.
We’re very close to it right now. Somehow staying above the froth.
Ok let’s do that. And we are doing pretty shit.
But at Christmas we are still going to be closer to 5th than 18th. So as shit as we are other teams are worse. Which is all that decides relegation.
The team in 18th need to win 3 games just to catch us up. And their GD is -16 to our +3 so actually they need to win 4 games to go above us.
Reality. They have won 3 games all season.
A very simple way to look at it. If I gave you £10k today with the option to stick it on Spurs finishing somewhere between 5th and 17th or 18th - 20th. What would you do?
For context 18th West Ham are currently odds on to go down. Spurs you can get 40-1.
If you bet on us to go down you might as well just set fire to £10k. Which is fine if you are the KLF. (One for the kids there).
The bookies rarely fuck up - that’s a big difference in odds.
(They actually think there more chance of City being relegated than Spurs thanks to this court case. )
So as the song goes “we are staying up!! Say we are staying up!!”
Edit Over last 10 games West Ham have 1 more point than us.
Last 6 we have 1 more point than them.
So if form is the decider here they need approx 100 games to catch us if we are purely talking about relegation form.
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I very much agree with your take and would 100% bet on us staying up but think things could well look different in a few week's time.Ok let’s do that. And we are doing pretty shit.
But at Christmas we are still going to be closer to 5th than 18th. So as shit as we are other teams are worse. Which is all that decides relegation.
The team in 18th need to win 3 games just to catch us up. And their GD is -16 to our +3 so actually they need to win 4 games to go above us.
Reality. They have won 3 games all season.
A very simple way to look at it. If I gave you £10k today with the option to stick it on Spurs finishing somewhere between 5th and 17th or 18th - 20th. What would you do?
For context 18th West Ham are currently odds on to go down. Spurs you can get 40-1.
If you bet on us to go down you might as well just set fire to £10k. Which is fine if you are the KLF. (One for the kids there).
The bookies rarely fuck up - that’s a big difference in odds.
(They actually think there more chance of City being relegated than Spurs thanks to this court case. )
So as the song goes “we are staying up!! Say we are staying up!!”
Edit Over last 10 games West Ham have 1 more point than us.
Last 6 we have 1 more point than them.
So if form is the decider here they need approx 100 games to catch us if we are purely talking about relegation form.
West Ham have maybe their best run of fixtures so far (certainly under Nuno) with games against Wolves, Fulham, Brighton and Forest. If we continue stinking the place up it's feasible they pick up 5-6 points in those games and we get fewer. Suddenly our game with them on Jan 18 is a full-on relegation 6 pointer.
Odds are very much that we'll be fine but it's starting to feel a little bit like the Ange freefall again where we don't know where the next win's coming from. If we can just nick 1 win against Palace, Brentford or Bournemouth then I'll feel much, much better. God it's sad I even had to write that sentence.