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Manager Thomas Frank

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Are you Frank Out or In?


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No mate. That should never, ever be allowed to happen again. Regardless of how awful or how close to the sack he is.
I'd rather give a coach players they want. This season is a complete bust. Give these two idiots loads of money to spend on someone who's going to deemed not good enough by the next manager, and we continue this cycle of shite.

Unless it's a Wharton type player, that any manager would like, I'm happy to just let this season be finished and not bring in more Kudus types, who aren't good enough for big money.
 
Thomas Frank on Spurs sitting back at home to Sunderland:

“The first half was by far better than the second and even in the first half, it was not like we had 65 per cent (possession) or whatever. Sometimes it's not only about the possession. You like to dominate, but they went man-to-man, so there was a lot of open spaces to run into. For me, that's more the critical areas that we didn't manage to punish (them) from this game.
Second half, I felt we dropped off in our drop-off runs to open up and keep the ball. I think also, it’s not like we won five games in a row and everything is just free and smooth. So, when you're up 1-0 and you really badly want to win, that can be a little bit, maybe a little bit nervy. One thing is our name and our fantastic history, another reality is where we are right now.”

Genuinely can’t stand him anymore
Hear all the shit he spouts before and after the game, but did nothing during games to affect the results to win it. BS merchant.
 
Lange would have had a huge influence on Frank coming in. Both Danish, worked together before, Lange's positions naturally means he would have an influence from a footballing perspective on who we hire as manager. Vinai and the Lewis's aren't going to be making manager hires based on anything other than the technical guidance from Lange, who was the Technical Director.

They would rely on Lange to make recommendations. Now what we don't know is how much influence Paratici had on the Frank hire. But considering FP is essentially involved in a power struggle, in talks with Fiorentina (but still hasn't left), and Matt Law who has excellent sources at the club, essentially suggested / raised the theory that FP was using the Fiorentina links to win a power struggle against Frank / Lange, I would say it's quite likely FP thinks Frank and Lange should both leave.

Paratici riddle

Reports emerged from Italy over the weekend that Tottenham’s co-sporting director Fabio Paratici was in talks over taking a job as director of football at Italian club Fiorentina. Paratici and Spurs have not commented on the link and the Italian was present at Tottenham’s defeat by Liverpool, with Spurs insisting they had received no direct approach from Fiorentina.
Paratici was only formally reappointed by Spurs in October, having worked as a contracted consultant for the club during his ban from football. He was re-hired as a co-sporting director with Johan Lange and some sources believe the link to Fiorentina could essentially be an attempted Spurs power-grab by Paratici that would involve Lange being sidelined or even heading for the exit. That is unsubstantiated and it remains to be seen whether Paratici is on his way out, Lange is being frozen out or both men will stay in their co-sporting director roles. Whatever happens will have an impact on Frank and Tottenham’s transfer business.



Trix on SC today said that





The fact that FP is still here, also lends credence to the fact that this power struggle is still going on.

Occams Razor when you look at everything going on, does indicate that we have Lange and Frank on one side, FP on the other.

Let's hope with every poor performance and loss/draw, Frank's and Lange's positions are weakened.

I would find it really concerning if FP leaves and our club is left in the hands of the two gimps Lange and Frank. We'll be fucked for years.
Given how poor we are under Frank and his parody responses in interviews there is no way that Frank and Lange can be landing well. We need Paratici to win this battle and soon
 
Some fans comparing this to last season.

Just having a look and typing this live, so I may be wrong about what I'm about to say, but - game 11 - 20 of 23/24
23/24
P10 L5 W4 D1
13 points. 1.3ppg

25/26
P10 L5 W2 D4
10 points. 1ppg

Mitigating factors for both. We know VDV and Maddison got injured for Ange in game 10.
But Maddison, Kulusevski and Solanke have all been out all season for Frank.

We conceded 17 goals in Ange's 2nd 10 games
We conceded 17 goals in Franks last 10 games.

Nobody (but me and a handful of others) were frothing at the mouth at how bad Ange was after those outlying first 10 games.
But it seems the fanbase is unanimously frothing at the mouth against Frank now.
south park beat a dead horse GIF
 
Some fans comparing this to last season.

Just having a look and typing this live, so I may be wrong about what I'm about to say, but - game 11 - 20 of 23/24
23/24
P10 L5 W4 D1
13 points. 1.3ppg

25/26
P10 L5 W2 D4
10 points. 1ppg

Mitigating factors for both. We know VDV and Maddison got injured for Ange in game 10.
But Maddison, Kulusevski and Solanke have all been out all season for Frank.

We conceded 17 goals in Ange's 2nd 10 games
We conceded 17 goals in Franks last 10 games.

Nobody (but me and a handful of others) were frothing at the mouth at how bad Ange was after those outlying first 10 games.
But it seems the fanbase is unanimously frothing at the mouth against Frank now.
Both managers can be the wrong choice. Which is case in point here. This is not 1980's Northern Ireland, you don't have to pick a side and be so tribal about it.

Both not up to the standard of a club like this. It's not a him vs him thing. Simple.
 
I'd rather give a coach players they want. This season is a complete bust. Give these two idiots loads of money to spend on someone who's going to deemed not good enough by the next manager, and we continue this cycle of shite.

Unless it's a Wharton type player, that any manager would like, I'm happy to just let this season be finished and not bring in more Kudus types, who aren't good enough for big money.
Just sack him ffs
 
Hear all the shit he spouts before and after the game, but did nothing during games to affect the results to win it. BS merchant.

We had nothing left on the bench. Kudus came off injured, Muani had to come on for a lack of better options, so we were left with a bench full of defenders, a Bergvall who's been on the cusp of injury, and 2 academy lads. Eventually Scarlett came on.

Irony is that if Kudus didn't get injured it might have, and probably would have, been a completely different outcome. Muani coming on was like playing with 9, because he was getting in the way of Odobert and fucking up all our attacks.

Whats funny is if you say Odobert is good, people laugh and say he's shit.
If you say Tel is good, you'd get flamed into oblivion
If you say Richi is good, you get told he's barely fit to be a professional footballer

If you say we'd be a different team with Kulu, Madders, and Dom back, people will suddenly say that we should be winning with Odobert, Tel, and Richi.

Which is it
 
Yep. I'd be amazed if Lange clings on to his job when Frank gets sacked.

Not only have we got FP still here, and I really hope he wins the power struggle, but Lange and Frank are close, so no way Lange surives. He will have to carry the can for his incompetence.

I will say this on Lange, I don't know how much damage or good he has done at the club, but what I will say is the majority of our signings under his watch have been a disaster, and he has presided over the worst Spurs period in performances and results in decades as well as a terrible managerial appointment.

He has to go.
We shouldn't be employing a proven crook...
 
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