I've stopped watching now. Never seen football as bad as this in my life. Mug worse than AVBThis is AVB levels bad. We get into attacking positions and every is so stagnate and isolated.
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I've stopped watching now. Never seen football as bad as this in my life. Mug worse than AVBThis is AVB levels bad. We get into attacking positions and every is so stagnate and isolated.
I'd rather give a coach players they want. This season is a complete bust. Give these two idiots loads of money to spend on someone who's going to deemed not good enough by the next manager, and we continue this cycle of shite.No mate. That should never, ever be allowed to happen again. Regardless of how awful or how close to the sack he is.
26 of those 46 games were Ange, not Frank.
56% of the games.
19 of those 46 points were Ange, not Frank.
41% of the points.
5 of those 12 wins were Ange, not Frank.
41.6% of the wins.
17 of the 24 losses were Ange, not Frank.
70.8% of the losses.
We have already sacked the main reason we have taken less points than them in that period.
He's the true fraud. At least Ange really did win on his 2nd season whatever the buts. We were all told Frank is a master tactician, but he had showed none whatsoever in the 6 months he's here.I can’t wait till the day this fraud is just part of our History!
Hear all the shit he spouts before and after the game, but did nothing during games to affect the results to win it. BS merchant.Thomas Frank on Spurs sitting back at home to Sunderland:
“The first half was by far better than the second and even in the first half, it was not like we had 65 per cent (possession) or whatever. Sometimes it's not only about the possession. You like to dominate, but they went man-to-man, so there was a lot of open spaces to run into. For me, that's more the critical areas that we didn't manage to punish (them) from this game.
Second half, I felt we dropped off in our drop-off runs to open up and keep the ball. I think also, it’s not like we won five games in a row and everything is just free and smooth. So, when you're up 1-0 and you really badly want to win, that can be a little bit, maybe a little bit nervy. One thing is our name and our fantastic history, another reality is where we are right now.”
Genuinely can’t stand him anymore
Given how poor we are under Frank and his parody responses in interviews there is no way that Frank and Lange can be landing well. We need Paratici to win this battle and soonLange would have had a huge influence on Frank coming in. Both Danish, worked together before, Lange's positions naturally means he would have an influence from a footballing perspective on who we hire as manager. Vinai and the Lewis's aren't going to be making manager hires based on anything other than the technical guidance from Lange, who was the Technical Director.
They would rely on Lange to make recommendations. Now what we don't know is how much influence Paratici had on the Frank hire. But considering FP is essentially involved in a power struggle, in talks with Fiorentina (but still hasn't left), and Matt Law who has excellent sources at the club, essentially suggested / raised the theory that FP was using the Fiorentina links to win a power struggle against Frank / Lange, I would say it's quite likely FP thinks Frank and Lange should both leave.
Paratici riddle
Reports emerged from Italy over the weekend that Tottenham’s co-sporting director Fabio Paratici was in talks over taking a job as director of football at Italian club Fiorentina. Paratici and Spurs have not commented on the link and the Italian was present at Tottenham’s defeat by Liverpool, with Spurs insisting they had received no direct approach from Fiorentina.
Paratici was only formally reappointed by Spurs in October, having worked as a contracted consultant for the club during his ban from football. He was re-hired as a co-sporting director with Johan Lange and some sources believe the link to Fiorentina could essentially be an attempted Spurs power-grab by Paratici that would involve Lange being sidelined or even heading for the exit. That is unsubstantiated and it remains to be seen whether Paratici is on his way out, Lange is being frozen out or both men will stay in their co-sporting director roles. Whatever happens will have an impact on Frank and Tottenham’s transfer business.
Trix on SC today said that
The fact that FP is still here, also lends credence to the fact that this power struggle is still going on.
Occams Razor when you look at everything going on, does indicate that we have Lange and Frank on one side, FP on the other.
Let's hope with every poor performance and loss/draw, Frank's and Lange's positions are weakened.
I would find it really concerning if FP leaves and our club is left in the hands of the two gimps Lange and Frank. We'll be fucked for years.
Call me crazy, but I’d sack Frank in an instant to get Amorim. Of course, I’d much rather have Xavi or Poch, but Amorim is miles clear of Frank.
Some fans comparing this to last season.
Just having a look and typing this live, so I may be wrong about what I'm about to say, but - game 11 - 20 of 23/24
23/24
P10 L5 W4 D1
13 points. 1.3ppg
25/26
P10 L5 W2 D4
10 points. 1ppg
Mitigating factors for both. We know VDV and Maddison got injured for Ange in game 10.
But Maddison, Kulusevski and Solanke have all been out all season for Frank.
We conceded 17 goals in Ange's 2nd 10 games
We conceded 17 goals in Franks last 10 games.
Nobody (but me and a handful of others) were frothing at the mouth at how bad Ange was after those outlying first 10 games.
But it seems the fanbase is unanimously frothing at the mouth against Frank now.
People couldn't deal with Ange's stubbornness. Amorim is from an entire different galaxy on that frontCrazy as this might sound we might have better suited players/squad for an Amorim team than United have.
Both managers can be the wrong choice. Which is case in point here. This is not 1980's Northern Ireland, you don't have to pick a side and be so tribal about it.Some fans comparing this to last season.
Just having a look and typing this live, so I may be wrong about what I'm about to say, but - game 11 - 20 of 23/24
23/24
P10 L5 W4 D1
13 points. 1.3ppg
25/26
P10 L5 W2 D4
10 points. 1ppg
Mitigating factors for both. We know VDV and Maddison got injured for Ange in game 10.
But Maddison, Kulusevski and Solanke have all been out all season for Frank.
We conceded 17 goals in Ange's 2nd 10 games
We conceded 17 goals in Franks last 10 games.
Nobody (but me and a handful of others) were frothing at the mouth at how bad Ange was after those outlying first 10 games.
But it seems the fanbase is unanimously frothing at the mouth against Frank now.
Just sack him ffsI'd rather give a coach players they want. This season is a complete bust. Give these two idiots loads of money to spend on someone who's going to deemed not good enough by the next manager, and we continue this cycle of shite.
Unless it's a Wharton type player, that any manager would like, I'm happy to just let this season be finished and not bring in more Kudus types, who aren't good enough for big money.
It's definitely a bad idea...you can't revisit the past..love Poch but I think it would be a disastrous mistake..sacked by Chelsea, sacked by PSG....Frank is here for the season and then it'll be Poch after the WC. Maybe his return is a bad idea, but I think it will happen
Hear all the shit he spouts before and after the game, but did nothing during games to affect the results to win it. BS merchant.
We shouldn't be employing a proven crook...Yep. I'd be amazed if Lange clings on to his job when Frank gets sacked.
Not only have we got FP still here, and I really hope he wins the power struggle, but Lange and Frank are close, so no way Lange surives. He will have to carry the can for his incompetence.
I will say this on Lange, I don't know how much damage or good he has done at the club, but what I will say is the majority of our signings under his watch have been a disaster, and he has presided over the worst Spurs period in performances and results in decades as well as a terrible managerial appointment.
He has to go.
Hear all the shit he spouts before and after the game, but did nothing during games to affect the results to win it. BS merchant.
god no...Given how poor we are under Frank and his parody responses in interviews there is no way that Frank and Lange can be landing well. We need Paratici to win this battle and soon
Yeah, I think it'll end in tears, and I've always been very opposed to it. But at this stage, I'd take anyone over this fraud.It's definitely a bad idea...you can't revisit the past..love Poch but I think it would be a disastrous mistake..sacked by Chelsea, sacked by PSG....
I would love De Zerbi...plays good football and would not tolerate half this squad who are just in coasting mode.
Basically an attacking Conte.
I would find it really concerning if FP leaves and our club is left in the hands of the two gimps Lange and Frank. We'll be fucked for years.