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The 75 "unsure, ask me in a couple of weeks" have actually been sat on that fence a couple of months now! Those arses must be getting sore.

Surely you've seen enough to decide one way or another by now?
 
Matt Law - Telegraph

It may have been a storm in a coffee cup on the south coast for Thomas Frank, but there is a very real threat to his authority brewing at Tottenham Hotspur.

Less than 24 hours after being caught sipping from an Woolwich-branded cup during Tottenham’s stoppage-time defeat at Bournemouth, Frank had to sit in front of a red and white Emirates-branded background to answer questions about his captain Cristian Romero.

The FA Cup backdrop provided Woolwich fans, who have flooded social media with a host of Frank-inspired jokes in response to the coffee cup storm, with another chance to poke fun at him. But there is not much for Tottenham’s head coach to smile about, as he attempts to retain some sense of control.

That has not been helped by the decision to let off Romero without a fine after he posted a message on social media in the hours after the defeat by Bournemouth that read: “At times like this, it should be other people coming out to speak, but they don’t – as has been happening for several years now. They only show up when things are going well, to tell a few lies.”

It was later edited to delete the accusation of “lies” and that seemed to be enough to somehow allow Romero to escape with just a chat with Frank and co-sporting director Johan Lange.

Asked if Romero would still be captain and whether he had been fined, Frank said: “He is our captain, he’s not been fined.” Pushed on why Romero had not been punished, the Dane added: “I think there’s a lot of ways to deal with different situations. We’ve chosen to have a good conversation with him, understand where he stands, handle it internally and that’s everything I have to say.”
The club remained silent on Romero and his outburst, leaving the door ajar to the theory that Spurs and Frank are simply too scared of the potential consequences to properly punish the fiery Argentine.

Frank insisted he had shown he is able to draw the line with his players by dropping Yves Bissouma from his Super Cup squad for persistent lateness. But some may reach the same conclusion as one source, who spoke to Telegraph Sport, and said: “It’s double standards.”

There have already been claims that Romero is granted more freedom around the training ground than the rest of the squad and he was made the club’s highest-paid player when he signed a new contract last summer. Vinai Venkatesham, the Tottenham chief executive, told a fans forum it was “the best deal in world football this summer” when he addressed them in October.
Defending Romero’s ability to lead the team, Frank pointed to the fact the captain was one of the players to speak up at half-time at Bournemouth after Spurs had let an early lead slip to trail at the break.
Telegraph Sport has been told that Tottenham’s angry players took it upon themselves to hold a half-time inquest at the Vitality Stadium. But by the time the players returned to the dressing room, having confronted fans after the final whistle, there was little said with the mood described as quiet and brooding.
A source said: “Things were said between the players at half-time in the dressing room, but at the end it was just quiet. The message to the players was just ‘well done’, which seems a bit strange given what had happened.”

Tottenham’s defeat at Bournemouth was greeted by loud booing from the visiting supporters. Micky van de Ven was seen gesturing to fans in a tense stand-off before being dragged away, while Pedro Porro, who was also helped out of the firing line, and João Palhinha went to speak to supporters face to face.

Porro, along with Richarlison, posted messages of support below Romero’s social media post, and Frank revealed that he had spoken with his entire squad, as well as Romero personally, on Thursday morning to try to clear the air.
“We spoke this morning in the meeting we had,” Frank said. “It’s a very emotional situation to be in after a late defeat. They’re human beings. They get questioned every single time. They’re footballers, that’s part of it, but that’s not the same [as saying it is] easy. I’d like to see some of the guys on social media or you guys experience that pressure out there. I don’t think it’s that easy.”

Van de Ven ‘frustrated’

Tottenham have been keen to offer Van de Ven a new contract, with his current deal running to 2029. But some sources believe the defender is frustrated with the current situation at the club.

Earlier this season, Telegraph Sport revealed that Tottenham players discussed in detail their disconnect with the club’s fans in a team meeting and the issue is now viewed within the squad as critical.
The subject of Spurs supporters was the key theme in a players’ meeting following the defeat by Chelsea on November 1. At the end of the game, Van de Ven and Djed Spence could not hide their displeasure with some fans and walked straight off the pitch.

Porro also hit out at “disrespectful” fans on social media following the defeat by Fulham, in which goalkeeper Guglielmo Vicario was booed by some Tottenham supporters.
Asked why there have been so many behavioural issues, Frank said: “That’s the beauty of things happening once and then you can always go back to it. Then there are a lot of emotions in football, when it’s not going in the direction you want and you get emotional after a game or whatever. Everyone reacts differently. We’re working very hard on being cool and calm, but still a passionate unit that can compete every game. And that will go a little bit up and a little bit down.”

Tottenham are still to confirm whether co-sporting director Fabio Paratici, who has been heavily linked with Fiorentina, will stay at the club and the Italian was left off Frank’s list of staff who he stressed are working together at Spurs.
“I think it’s very important to stress that even though there’s noise, the club is very aligned,” Frank said. “Johan, Vinai and I are very aligned. Ownership is very aligned. We know it’s a tough spell that we need to get through.”
Frank may remain in charge of the team as head coach, but whether he is in control of his players is not quite so clear.



Its all beginning of the end stuff, IMO. For Frank for sure, and probably some of the squad.

This blew my mind:
A source said: “Things were said between the players at half-time in the dressing room, but at the end it was just quiet. The message to the players was just ‘well done’, which seems a bit strange given what had happened.”

Well done?! Im starting to think Frank isnt gaslighting US with his talk of things doing well/layers/progress - I think he is gaslighting himself. WELL FUCKING DONE!? WHAT FOR?!

You know when there are sources coming out on what happened at half time the manager is done, he just is.


And I think we would all agree there is a definite disconnect between players and fans, club and fans even?

Ive said in the "who next..." thread, I dont want Pochettino back, I just think no matter what it ends badly - but I do want ANOTHER Pochettino.

I think the club and fans NEED a manager who can work with the squad and is proper Spurs, someone we can get behind, get the good vibes going, bring everyone together

I think its a real concern the like of VDV are looking elsewhere, but I also think that can be saved with another poch

Some good football, enjoyable football, fans back onside - suddenly players and fans alike are happy

Frank is the problem right now. Not the only one, not the over all problem, but the immediate problem - and he needs to go to make way for real positivity - not aligned layers of cautious imaginary positivity


EDIT: Also, its clear he is scared of the dressing room - no manager can succeed when thats the case


EDIT EDIT : Shitting out Bissouma is hardly a show of strength is it?
 
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I remember debates this time last year when we had a week of League Cup and FA Cup fixtures. The idea was Ange needed to win one to survive.

We’d just beaten Liverpool in the home leg of the league cup. Bergvall goal from Solanke. I can’t imagine a performance like that game under Frank tbh.

The club may well be looking at Villa as the decider. Ange had Europa in his corner, not sure the same is true for Frank and CL tbh but I can understand the club giving him the FA Cup to hold onto
Likely depends on the context. If we lose on penalties after a barnstorming 2-2, 3-3 he'll likely avoid crowd grief and get West Ham which he'd have to win. If we go down meekly to Villa it will kick off and i reckon they'd sack him. You cant continue with this level of fan/player unrest. Someone needs to get a grip.
 
Actually this raises a good point.

I listen to View From The Lane, Fighting Cock and An Echo of Glory and every member of those pods are Frank out and in most cases have been that way for least a month.
Are there actually any journos that are still defending Frank and say he should get more time? I would be real interested in hearing anyone legitimately trying to defend him at this point
I listen VFTL & occasionally TFC but tend to avoid the others as they all seem a bit hysterical. Is Echo any good?
 
Sweet Danny's bargain cost:revenue strategy doesn't look so good does it.

It would be very odd if the fans were not totally pissed off, given the appalling results, the appalling performances, the huge revenue and high ticket prices.

All the players and Frank should run that thought through their heads tbh.

Equally, this absurd cost:revenue strategy also succeeds it seems in totally pissing off the players, who are expected to compete with the big boys with one arm tied behind their back, fail, and therefore face understandably angry fans.

ENIC need to either substantially drop the prices and become a mid-table club, or else show some ambition and sign top players on top wages. The current strategy is a disaster
 
A source said: “Things were said between the players at half-time in the dressing room, but at the end it was just quiet. The message to the players was just ‘well done’, which seems a bit strange given what had happened.”

It just sums up his entire mindset....."well done" for narrowly losing in the last few minutes

Imagine what a Neil Warnock type of character would have said to them
 
Likely depends on the context. If we lose on penalties after a barnstorming 2-2, 3-3 he'll likely avoid crowd grief and get West Ham which he'd have to win. If we go down meekly to Villa it will kick off and i reckon they'd sack him. You cant continue with this level of fan/player unrest. Someone needs to get a grip.

I genuinely think (hope/convince myself) the decision is made for him to go

Theres a week between Villa and West Ham

I think (hope/delude myself/might be tripping) the decision has been made to let him go after Villa, and we're using this time to line up his replacement

And if I inject something I can also see a version where Lange and Paratici go with him
 
Honestly, if we had 2 quality wingers how many more points could we have gotten so far? 4? 6?
Maybe two or three of our draws would have been wins.
Then I wonder what this thread would look like if that was the case and we were in 5th instead of 14th.
But I’m sure it’s still all Frank’s fault.

There would still be moans about the style but the league position certainly has a compounding effect on the over all mood.

I've been clinging to the belief that a couple of results and things will look and feel much better - and if we somehow get past Villa that will be true - BUT the annual Tottenham injury crisis has set in and even if Frank isn't personally blamed for those injuries like previous managers - he still has to deal with the ruinous effect of them.

Club needs to sign quality somehow and quickly or this will get very ugly.
 
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Matt Law - Telegraph

It may have been a storm in a coffee cup on the south coast for Thomas Frank, but there is a very real threat to his authority brewing at Tottenham Hotspur.

Less than 24 hours after being caught sipping from an Woolwich-branded cup during Tottenham’s stoppage-time defeat at Bournemouth, Frank had to sit in front of a red and white Emirates-branded background to answer questions about his captain Cristian Romero.

The FA Cup backdrop provided Woolwich fans, who have flooded social media with a host of Frank-inspired jokes in response to the coffee cup storm, with another chance to poke fun at him. But there is not much for Tottenham’s head coach to smile about, as he attempts to retain some sense of control.

That has not been helped by the decision to let off Romero without a fine after he posted a message on social media in the hours after the defeat by Bournemouth that read: “At times like this, it should be other people coming out to speak, but they don’t – as has been happening for several years now. They only show up when things are going well, to tell a few lies.”

It was later edited to delete the accusation of “lies” and that seemed to be enough to somehow allow Romero to escape with just a chat with Frank and co-sporting director Johan Lange.

Asked if Romero would still be captain and whether he had been fined, Frank said: “He is our captain, he’s not been fined.” Pushed on why Romero had not been punished, the Dane added: “I think there’s a lot of ways to deal with different situations. We’ve chosen to have a good conversation with him, understand where he stands, handle it internally and that’s everything I have to say.”
The club remained silent on Romero and his outburst, leaving the door ajar to the theory that Spurs and Frank are simply too scared of the potential consequences to properly punish the fiery Argentine.

Frank insisted he had shown he is able to draw the line with his players by dropping Yves Bissouma from his Super Cup squad for persistent lateness. But some may reach the same conclusion as one source, who spoke to Telegraph Sport, and said: “It’s double standards.”

There have already been claims that Romero is granted more freedom around the training ground than the rest of the squad and he was made the club’s highest-paid player when he signed a new contract last summer. Vinai Venkatesham, the Tottenham chief executive, told a fans forum it was “the best deal in world football this summer” when he addressed them in October.
Defending Romero’s ability to lead the team, Frank pointed to the fact the captain was one of the players to speak up at half-time at Bournemouth after Spurs had let an early lead slip to trail at the break.
Telegraph Sport has been told that Tottenham’s angry players took it upon themselves to hold a half-time inquest at the Vitality Stadium. But by the time the players returned to the dressing room, having confronted fans after the final whistle, there was little said with the mood described as quiet and brooding.
A source said: “Things were said between the players at half-time in the dressing room, but at the end it was just quiet. The message to the players was just ‘well done’, which seems a bit strange given what had happened.”

Tottenham’s defeat at Bournemouth was greeted by loud booing from the visiting supporters. Micky van de Ven was seen gesturing to fans in a tense stand-off before being dragged away, while Pedro Porro, who was also helped out of the firing line, and João Palhinha went to speak to supporters face to face.

Porro, along with Richarlison, posted messages of support below Romero’s social media post, and Frank revealed that he had spoken with his entire squad, as well as Romero personally, on Thursday morning to try to clear the air.
“We spoke this morning in the meeting we had,” Frank said. “It’s a very emotional situation to be in after a late defeat. They’re human beings. They get questioned every single time. They’re footballers, that’s part of it, but that’s not the same [as saying it is] easy. I’d like to see some of the guys on social media or you guys experience that pressure out there. I don’t think it’s that easy.”

Van de Ven ‘frustrated’

Tottenham have been keen to offer Van de Ven a new contract, with his current deal running to 2029. But some sources believe the defender is frustrated with the current situation at the club.

Earlier this season, Telegraph Sport revealed that Tottenham players discussed in detail their disconnect with the club’s fans in a team meeting and the issue is now viewed within the squad as critical.
The subject of Spurs supporters was the key theme in a players’ meeting following the defeat by Chelsea on November 1. At the end of the game, Van de Ven and Djed Spence could not hide their displeasure with some fans and walked straight off the pitch.

Porro also hit out at “disrespectful” fans on social media following the defeat by Fulham, in which goalkeeper Guglielmo Vicario was booed by some Tottenham supporters.
Asked why there have been so many behavioural issues, Frank said: “That’s the beauty of things happening once and then you can always go back to it. Then there are a lot of emotions in football, when it’s not going in the direction you want and you get emotional after a game or whatever. Everyone reacts differently. We’re working very hard on being cool and calm, but still a passionate unit that can compete every game. And that will go a little bit up and a little bit down.”

Tottenham are still to confirm whether co-sporting director Fabio Paratici, who has been heavily linked with Fiorentina, will stay at the club and the Italian was left off Frank’s list of staff who he stressed are working together at Spurs.
“I think it’s very important to stress that even though there’s noise, the club is very aligned,” Frank said. “Johan, Vinai and I are very aligned. Ownership is very aligned. We know it’s a tough spell that we need to get through.”
Frank may remain in charge of the team as head coach, but whether he is in control of his players is not quite so clear.



Its all beginning of the end stuff, IMO. For Frank for sure, and probably some of the squad.

This blew my mind:
A source said: “Things were said between the players at half-time in the dressing room, but at the end it was just quiet. The message to the players was just ‘well done’, which seems a bit strange given what had happened.”

Well done?! Im starting to think Frank isnt gaslighting US with his talk of things doing well/layers/progress - I think he is gaslighting himself. WELL FUCKING DONE!? WHAT FOR?!

You know when there are sources coming out on what happened at half time the manager is done, he just is.


And I think we would all agree there is a definite disconnect between players and fans, club and fans even?

Ive said in the "who next..." thread, I dont want Pochettino back, I just think no matter what it ends badly - but I do want ANOTHER Pochettino.

I think the club and fans NEED a manager who can work with the squad and is proper Spurs, someone we can get behind, get the good vibes going, bring everyone together

I think its a real concern the like of VDV are looking elsewhere, but I also think that can be saved with another poch

Some good football, enjoyable football, fans back onside - suddenly players and fans alike are happy

Frank is the problem right now. Not the only one, not the over all problem, but the immediate problem - and he needs to go to make way for real positivity - not aligned layers of cautious imaginary positivity


EDIT: Also, its clear he is scared of the dressing room - no manager can succeed when thats the case


EDIT EDIT : Shitting out Bissouma is hardly a show of strength is it?
The players are frustrated with the fans - wow!!!

Honestly get rid of every last one of these pillocks, they are thicker than a Boxing Day turd.

How do they think the fans feel watching us lose time and time again at home to nothing teams like Fulham - are they fucking deluded
 
Matt Law - Telegraph

It may have been a storm in a coffee cup on the south coast for Thomas Frank, but there is a very real threat to his authority brewing at Tottenham Hotspur.

Less than 24 hours after being caught sipping from an Woolwich-branded cup during Tottenham’s stoppage-time defeat at Bournemouth, Frank had to sit in front of a red and white Emirates-branded background to answer questions about his captain Cristian Romero.

The FA Cup backdrop provided Woolwich fans, who have flooded social media with a host of Frank-inspired jokes in response to the coffee cup storm, with another chance to poke fun at him. But there is not much for Tottenham’s head coach to smile about, as he attempts to retain some sense of control.

That has not been helped by the decision to let off Romero without a fine after he posted a message on social media in the hours after the defeat by Bournemouth that read: “At times like this, it should be other people coming out to speak, but they don’t – as has been happening for several years now. They only show up when things are going well, to tell a few lies.”

It was later edited to delete the accusation of “lies” and that seemed to be enough to somehow allow Romero to escape with just a chat with Frank and co-sporting director Johan Lange.

Asked if Romero would still be captain and whether he had been fined, Frank said: “He is our captain, he’s not been fined.” Pushed on why Romero had not been punished, the Dane added: “I think there’s a lot of ways to deal with different situations. We’ve chosen to have a good conversation with him, understand where he stands, handle it internally and that’s everything I have to say.”
The club remained silent on Romero and his outburst, leaving the door ajar to the theory that Spurs and Frank are simply too scared of the potential consequences to properly punish the fiery Argentine.

Frank insisted he had shown he is able to draw the line with his players by dropping Yves Bissouma from his Super Cup squad for persistent lateness. But some may reach the same conclusion as one source, who spoke to Telegraph Sport, and said: “It’s double standards.”

There have already been claims that Romero is granted more freedom around the training ground than the rest of the squad and he was made the club’s highest-paid player when he signed a new contract last summer. Vinai Venkatesham, the Tottenham chief executive, told a fans forum it was “the best deal in world football this summer” when he addressed them in October.
Defending Romero’s ability to lead the team, Frank pointed to the fact the captain was one of the players to speak up at half-time at Bournemouth after Spurs had let an early lead slip to trail at the break.
Telegraph Sport has been told that Tottenham’s angry players took it upon themselves to hold a half-time inquest at the Vitality Stadium. But by the time the players returned to the dressing room, having confronted fans after the final whistle, there was little said with the mood described as quiet and brooding.
A source said: “Things were said between the players at half-time in the dressing room, but at the end it was just quiet. The message to the players was just ‘well done’, which seems a bit strange given what had happened.”

Tottenham’s defeat at Bournemouth was greeted by loud booing from the visiting supporters. Micky van de Ven was seen gesturing to fans in a tense stand-off before being dragged away, while Pedro Porro, who was also helped out of the firing line, and João Palhinha went to speak to supporters face to face.

Porro, along with Richarlison, posted messages of support below Romero’s social media post, and Frank revealed that he had spoken with his entire squad, as well as Romero personally, on Thursday morning to try to clear the air.
“We spoke this morning in the meeting we had,” Frank said. “It’s a very emotional situation to be in after a late defeat. They’re human beings. They get questioned every single time. They’re footballers, that’s part of it, but that’s not the same [as saying it is] easy. I’d like to see some of the guys on social media or you guys experience that pressure out there. I don’t think it’s that easy.”

Van de Ven ‘frustrated’

Tottenham have been keen to offer Van de Ven a new contract, with his current deal running to 2029. But some sources believe the defender is frustrated with the current situation at the club.

Earlier this season, Telegraph Sport revealed that Tottenham players discussed in detail their disconnect with the club’s fans in a team meeting and the issue is now viewed within the squad as critical.
The subject of Spurs supporters was the key theme in a players’ meeting following the defeat by Chelsea on November 1. At the end of the game, Van de Ven and Djed Spence could not hide their displeasure with some fans and walked straight off the pitch.

Porro also hit out at “disrespectful” fans on social media following the defeat by Fulham, in which goalkeeper Guglielmo Vicario was booed by some Tottenham supporters.
Asked why there have been so many behavioural issues, Frank said: “That’s the beauty of things happening once and then you can always go back to it. Then there are a lot of emotions in football, when it’s not going in the direction you want and you get emotional after a game or whatever. Everyone reacts differently. We’re working very hard on being cool and calm, but still a passionate unit that can compete every game. And that will go a little bit up and a little bit down.”

Tottenham are still to confirm whether co-sporting director Fabio Paratici, who has been heavily linked with Fiorentina, will stay at the club and the Italian was left off Frank’s list of staff who he stressed are working together at Spurs.
“I think it’s very important to stress that even though there’s noise, the club is very aligned,” Frank said. “Johan, Vinai and I are very aligned. Ownership is very aligned. We know it’s a tough spell that we need to get through.”
Frank may remain in charge of the team as head coach, but whether he is in control of his players is not quite so clear.



Its all beginning of the end stuff, IMO. For Frank for sure, and probably some of the squad.

This blew my mind:
A source said: “Things were said between the players at half-time in the dressing room, but at the end it was just quiet. The message to the players was just ‘well done’, which seems a bit strange given what had happened.”

Well done?! Im starting to think Frank isnt gaslighting US with his talk of things doing well/layers/progress - I think he is gaslighting himself. WELL FUCKING DONE!? WHAT FOR?!

You know when there are sources coming out on what happened at half time the manager is done, he just is.


And I think we would all agree there is a definite disconnect between players and fans, club and fans even?

Ive said in the "who next..." thread, I dont want Pochettino back, I just think no matter what it ends badly - but I do want ANOTHER Pochettino.

I think the club and fans NEED a manager who can work with the squad and is proper Spurs, someone we can get behind, get the good vibes going, bring everyone together

I think its a real concern the like of VDV are looking elsewhere, but I also think that can be saved with another poch

Some good football, enjoyable football, fans back onside - suddenly players and fans alike are happy

Frank is the problem right now. Not the only one, not the over all problem, but the immediate problem - and he needs to go to make way for real positivity - not aligned layers of cautious imaginary positivity


EDIT: Also, its clear he is scared of the dressing room - no manager can succeed when thats the case


EDIT EDIT : Shitting out Bissouma is hardly a show of strength is it?

Im going to post a very unpopular opinion here - and people can like it or lump it - I don't really care

Players aren't going to run through walls for fans who boo them in the middle of games for making a mistake or who verbally abuse them

They are human beings - and it is just the truth -

So fans taking out their frustration in that way are 100% part of the problem

I do not buy that you have the right to scream obsensities at anyone just because you pay moeny to watch a game.

you dont

its pathetic

It's scummy behaviour

Shouting shit at other human beings because you yourself don't have the ability to not do that is not normal -

So the players have a disconnect with the hierarchy and with the manager and with the fans, seemingly.

And yes, players come and go, but we still have the same scum in our fanbase that booed Sanchez, and Emerson mid-game, that call Ange a fat cunt cos we lost a game.

Those people are part of the problem. Might be a small part, but they are part of it
 
Likely depends on the context. If we lose on penalties after a barnstorming 2-2, 3-3 he'll likely avoid crowd grief and get West Ham which he'd have to win. If we go down meekly to Villa it will kick off and i reckon they'd sack him. You cant continue with this level of fan/player unrest. Someone needs to get a grip.

No,no, no. There is no victory or barnstorning defeat coming to the rescue.

A decision needs to be made now amd stuck to. The right decision is clear.

Certain players are managing the team, not Frank.

Change it now, but don't leave us in flux. Southgate or Silva for me, and yes I mean it. Glasnervat a push. It must be someone with PL experience and with a stern hand.
 
If Frank has the support of the squad - he needs to have a full season.

The problems at Spurs are a collective.

- Players out of form
- negative tactics
- injuries to key positions
- Lack of "12th man" (i.e poor fan support)
- lack of confidence
- disconnect between players and leadership
- lack of club identity
- lack of club trained players (loyalty, love for club)
- an incompetent medical dept

Changing the coach may fix 2 or 3 of these.

Signing new players may fix 1 or 2 of these.

With Levy gone and new leadership in, is there a pathway to resolution? The club needs to publish their strategy and consult with fans. It's easy to blame the players and the coach, but realistically they are just part of the puzzle.
 
The players are frustrated with the fans - wow!!!

Honestly get rid of every last one of these pillocks, they are thicker than a Boxing Day turd.

How do they think the fans feel watching us lose time and time again at home to nothing teams like Fulham - are they fucking deluded

Im going to post a very unpopular opinion here - and people can like it or lump it - I don't really care

Players aren't going to run through walls for fans who boo them in the middle of games for making a mistake or who verbally abuse them

They are human beings - and it is just the truth -

So fans taking out their frustration in that way are 100% part of the problem

I do not buy that you have the right to scream obsensities at anyone just because you pay moeny to watch a game.

you dont

its pathetic

It's scummy behaviour

Shouting shit at other human beings because you yourself don't have the ability to not do that is not normal -

So the players have a disconnect with the hierarchy and with the manager and with the fans, seemingly.

And yes, players come and go, but we still have the same scum in our fanbase that booed Sanchez, and Emerson mid-game, that call Ange a fat cunt cos we lost a game.

Those people are part of the problem. Might be a small part, but they are part of it


Im inclined to some agreement with dudu

They are human beings, Im sure they are doing their best (or think they are) and Im sure they are aware of things not going well, are aware of the pressure - and getting screamed at and boo'd is going to effect morale and that relationship

Its natural

Although I wont condem fans for the boos and the discontent, its about the only way they have to communicating their feelins to the club/players/management

Its a pretty toxic situation right now

Though as I say above, I really, genuinely, feel its recoverable with a new manager - who is the right manager

A clean slate, some positivity, some better football - amazing how quickly things can improve, even if it feels impossible now
 
No,no, no.

A decision needs to be made now amd stuck to. The right decision is clear.

Certain players are managing the team, not Frank.

Change it now.
If they had any idea who they wanted and they were avaiable it would be done already. They'll be hoping they can fudge it and he can cling on until the summer when there are better options but i suspect circumstances will get out of control and force their hand.
 
If they had any idea who they wanted and they were avaiable it would be done already. They'll be hoping they can fudge it and he can cling on until the summer when there are better options but i suspect circumstances will get out of control and force their hand.

Disagree.

Negotiations always take time, especially on managers and their preferred backroom staff.

I think Frank goes before the West Ham game.

Whether it's an interim or permanent who knows.
 
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