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Player Micky van de Ven

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VDV is our best player by a mile and has spirit and motivation
He knows exactly what's going on behind the scenes
Is it then surprising he reacts the way he has?
Dude, quotes (leaks?) today are saying that one of the reasons he won’t sign a new contract are the ‘fans’ .
Given his behavior, that’s obviously true.

Half the people that post here are below average of their job. That doesn’t give anyone the goddamn right to harass them for doing it. You don’t boo actors on a stage when you see a shit play. You don’t scream in a movie theater when the film disappoints.
You get up and leave and don’t go back — it’s become way too easy for anonymous wankers to behave like dickheads without personal consequences. In this case, it’s alienating our few decent players who are bound to stick with their teammates (‘’Us’) as opposed to a bunch of anonymous whiners who couldn’t do the same job if their life depended on it (‘Them’).
 
Dude, quotes (leaks?) today are saying that one of the reasons he won’t sign a new contract are the ‘fans’ .
Given his behavior, that’s obviously true.

Half the people that post here are below average of their job. That doesn’t give anyone the goddamn right to harass them for doing it. You don’t boo actors on a stage when you see a shit play. You don’t scream in a movie theater when the film disappoints.
You get up and leave and don’t go back — it’s become way too easy for anonymous wankers to behave like dickheads without personal consequences. In this case, it’s alienating our few decent players who are bound to stick with their teammates (‘’Us’) as opposed to a bunch of anonymous whiners who couldn’t do the same job if their life depended on it (‘Them’).

Nonsense.

I hope we get to the end of the season amd sell him, if he doesn't want to sign a new contract.

Van De Ven is becoming more problem than solution in my opinion.
 
As someone else said, I couldn't give a shit if he leaves.

He has nothing on the previous players we've had at the club.

Yes his pace is a weapon, but I don't look at him as a potential world class CB. His reading of the game is average, he's poor in the air, he's poor on the ball in terms of passing.

If you look, the best CBs rarely had to make recovery runs and dive in because they were always in the right place at the right time. He has to do it often.

Whilst he's probably our most coveted player in the squad, it really isn't saying much to be honest.

I wouldn't actively want him to go, but as others have said, it's not like we'd be losing a Modric or a Bale.
 
Dude, quotes (leaks?) today are saying that one of the reasons he won’t sign a new contract are the ‘fans’ .
Given his behavior, that’s obviously true.

Half the people that post here are below average of their job. That doesn’t give anyone the goddamn right to harass them for doing it. You don’t boo actors on a stage when you see a shit play. You don’t scream in a movie theater when the film disappoints.
You get up and leave and don’t go back — it’s become way too easy for anonymous wankers to behave like dickheads without personal consequences. In this case, it’s alienating our few decent players who are bound to stick with their teammates (‘’Us’) as opposed to a bunch of anonymous whiners who couldn’t do the same job if their life depended on it (‘Them’).
they're a bunch of lazy entitled fucks and they deserve to get boo'd
 
More than happy to see a CB pairing of Danso and Vuskovic .
Sick and tired of prima donnas in this team and football as a whole .
It's become embarrassing how petulant the whole game has become .
 
Micky is our best player by far and has been excellent this season. Be careful what you wish for because we won’t replace him if he left with anything close to how good he is. Anyone happy with him leaving has no love for this club. We need to get rid of the shit and keep the good ones. I really hope there’s some sort of plan in place to bring players in but it’s worrying that everything that’s rumoured is outgoings.
I think after tomorrow night we will be looking for a new manager. They will go with a strong 11 and we are weakened by injury and suspension plus we are hopeless and I can only see one winner.
My gut feeling is there’s a lot going on behind the scenes to replace the manager rather than prioritising new players. They should be doing both.
 
Micky is our best player by far and has been excellent this season. Be careful what you wish for because we won’t replace him if he left with anything close to how good he is. Anyone happy with him leaving has no love for this club. We need to get rid of the shit and keep the good ones. I really hope there’s some sort of plan in place to bring players in but it’s worrying that everything that’s rumoured is outgoings.
I think after tomorrow night we will be looking for a new manager. They will go with a strong 11 and we are weakened by injury and suspension plus we are hopeless and I can only see one winner.
My gut feeling is there’s a lot going on behind the scenes to replace the manager rather than prioritising new players. They should be doing both.
Absolutely nailed it my friend. An Absolutely FANTASTIC post 🏆

The bolded part should be pasted to the top of this thread.....The only people happy to see our best players leave should be gooners and chavs

Well said and well done.
 
The atmosphere is dead almost from the start. And you really think booing helps?
What have the fans got to cheer for? They know they're getting almost two hours of cruel and unusual punishment to get through.

If the product on the pitch is good, there won't be boos. Boos are the fans way of saying they demand better and holding the club accountable.

The keep calm and carry on approach has let it become what is has with the neglect from upstairs.
 
100% this.

I just hope this is understood by Frank's bosses because it is an indication that he is falling out of line and not being managed.

It cannot be allowed to continue.
I know people swept it under the rug as something in the heat of the moment, but when he snubbed Frank with Spence, that was insubordination. If I did that to my manager, I'd be sacked. Not saying they should've transfer listed him or anything, but a fine or suspension throws down a gauntlet for what is not acceptable.

For Frank then to come out and dismiss it and make excuses for it, that's not good. Doesn't look like he much control over that squad at all.
 
I know people swept it under the rug as something in the heat of the moment, but when he snubbed Frank with Spence, that was insubordination. If I did that to my manager, I'd be sacked. Not saying they should've transfer listed him or anything, but a fine or suspension throws down a gauntlet for what is not acceptable.

For Frank then to come out and dismiss it and make excuses for it, that's not good. Doesn't look like he much control over that squad at all.

Agree, and whilst Romero already blurted last season, I think that having signed a new contract and been appointed captain he would have not wrote what he did last week if Van De Ven and Spence had been fined.

And if you don't respect and fear (small f) your manager, you are just so much less likely to perform, in my opinion.
 
Fans: booing and generally being shitty most of the season creating a horrible atmosphere at the stadium.

VDV: I might not sign a contract because the fans are really unsupportive and the stadium atmosphere is difficult to play in and not enjoyable.

Fans:
angry lord of the rings GIF
 
Agree, and whilst Romero already blurted last season, I think that having signed a new contract and been appointed captain he would have not wrote what he did last week if Van De Ven and Spence had been fined.

Amd if you don't respect and fear (small f) your manager, you are just so much less likely to perform, in my opinion.
With Romero, whilst he has his fucking issues, he's aiming his anger in the right direction. The other two ejits just need to understand fans aren't happy when we lose and losing in the manner we do is hard to take. Porro has done it a few times now.

I don't think Frank has the respect of any of them. It's a bad squad, it's not this bad. They look to have downed tools essentially. The club just hiding behind the screen is exacerbating the issue too.

They need to realise they've made a mistake, rectify it quickly, while we can still save the season, and whoever comes into replace Frank inevitably, needs to come in and tell them what they are and what won't fly.
 
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