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Manager Thomas Frank

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Are you Frank Out or In?


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People really need to stop saying this. Go look at the league table and don’t be so defeatist.
Ok hang on

Yep... just checking fixtures


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People really need to stop saying this. Go look at the league table and don’t be so defeatist.
You're right.. It's a tight league. And more importantly a shit league.. The season can be saved (though not from a trophy perspective).

But it's hard to see us taking advantage of it without a lightning bolt of inspiration from somewhere.. Be that investment in the window, or a drastic change in bravery from the dugout. Probably both.
 
George Graham was more front foot than Frank and that’s the most damning indictment there is.

This guy is the complete opposite of this once great clubs motto, he dares once the opposition are in front.
 
You look at the current squad and you've got some building blocks (van de vyn, simons, romero, odobert, tell, moore) who have a lot of good football ahead of them. The front office has obviously decided to go for a rebuild and not bring in Premier League ready players anytime soon. The manager they have is suited, by his history, to developing that young core group. Where it is not coming together is the injuries and the team not being honest with fans about lies ahead. It's arguably a reasonable way to go and lurching off in some other direction only makes sense if you're willing to throw a huge sum of money at your problems and bring in a world class manager. The second half of the season will be better than the first, but it will be a step forward and not a leap.
I think some of the discontent would be dealt with by Vinai or someone above him coming out and being straight. Lange said he wants us to become the premier destination for young players.

Just come out and say it clearly. We want to have a top team in a couple of years and it will be a rocky road but we believe we will compete sustainably in a couple of years. Hang in there.

But the silence makes it look like ineptitude (which it might be).
 
One thing I don’t understand is why he gets such an easy ride from the British football media?

I’m wondering if it’s because he’s premier league proven and they have some kind of rules about protecting people they’ve decided are good. Paid his dues vibes
 
Judging by some of his post match radio quotes, he clearly thinks he’s got the backing of the board & will be given time 🤦🏼‍♀️

Also as expected, this interview is also a complete mockery, with the PR machine in full force 🤢


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I doubt he gets a running commentary on how the board feel about him. And if he was asked does he feel backing from the club, what else is he going to say? So I wouldn't read too much into it. If he isn't gone the next couple of days, then he simply has to win against West Ham, I just can't in anyway see how he survives another defeat and I think even he knows it.
 
With Frank saying everyone at the club is aligned…

Here is the most optimistic take…

I think they’re looking at Woolwich in the early days under Arteta and thinking … let’s tolerate a couple of shit seasons and keep recruiting and playing young players. If we get past this season then next year will be a little better. And in two seasons we’ll actually have a good team. There are some very high ceiling players who are 5 years off being excellent and will be good Prem players sooner - Vuskovic, Gray, Bergvall, Odobert, Tel, Moore, Souza hopefully… almost none of our players are in their prime age.

There’s no way for us to buy success sooner so play the long game.

Not saying it will work but have to take what we can right now

I agree this probably is the thinking but the difference with Arteta's early years is two fold:

1)) he wasn't this bad and;

2) perhaps even more importantly, COVID

There were no angry and frustrated 60000 odd thousands to contend with.

If they think the fans here will settle for this awful football for two or three seasons whilst having the temerity to charge the highest ticket prices in the country....

Yes it might get slightly better but it's doubtful unless Frank does a 180 on his whole approach.

Well that's just not happening.
 
I doubt he gets a running commentary on how the board feel about him. And if he was asked does he feel backing from the club, what else is he going to say? So I wouldn't read too much into it. If he isn't gone the next couple of days, then he simply has to win against West Ham, I just can't in anyway see how he survives another defeat and I think even he knows it.

I just don’t get what 1 win, against a relegation fodder changes.
Does 1 game suddenly make him a good manager ? No.
The way I see it, fixture difficulty wise, he won’t last February.
 
He isn’t and his preferred style of play nerfs all of these young talents apart from Vuskovic.

Besides trying to imitate Arteta dooms us to never being as good as them. It’s an absolutely foolish hypothesis.

Being a pound shop Woolwich playing the hoof ball but far worse than them is just depressing. If we are going to be a pound shop club let’s be pound shop Barcelona and playing with style as per our history. Fuck the negative football never works with us and never will.
 
With Frank saying everyone at the club is aligned…

Here is the most optimistic take…

I think they’re looking at Woolwich in the early days under Arteta and thinking … let’s tolerate a couple of shit seasons and keep recruiting and playing young players. If we get past this season then next year will be a little better. And in two seasons we’ll actually have a good team. There are some very high ceiling players who are 5 years off being excellent and will be good Prem players sooner - Vuskovic, Gray, Bergvall, Odobert, Tel, Moore, Souza hopefully… almost none of our players are in their prime age.

There’s no way for us to buy success sooner so play the long game.

Not saying it will work but have to take what we can right now


There is no way they think they can afford to sack off 2 seasons until we might be good.

And surely if they were going to do that, they’d do it with a coach who fits the playing style of the club.
 
In 3 years, this team could be pretty good. Three fucking years and the players start to enter their prime and it still looks young.


———————— Kinsky 25
Porro 29 - Romero 30 - VdV 27 - Udogie 26
———————-Gray 22 - Bergvall 22
Odobert 24 ——- Simons 25 ———- Moore 21
———————— Tel 23

Vuskovic 21
Souza 22
Spence 28
Danso 30
Sarr 26
Kudus 28
Yang 22

And this is without a single signing.

The more I think about it, the more I think they’ve just fucked off the next two years and gone big for the end of the decade.

They should drop the price of season tickets 30% for next year and raise it gradually as the players mature. That would go a LONG way with fans and build some patience.
 
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