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Match West Ham (H) 17/01 - 3PM. Here we go again…

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Trimpler said:
I am totally sick of this Dr.Tottenham-Spence at left back means we play with 10 men,I am mates with a season ticket holder at Burnley and he is confused on why we bought Odebart,and Mauni must not become a permanent transfer -another Saturday ruined!!!!!!!
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Oddjob who Ange said we monitored through out 23-24 season. Never did anything of note and we then shell out £25/30M for him deadline week of transfer window. No one else was in for him and we obvs didn’t do it in EU or anywhere is in the world. All the while we have some academy players who got completely over looked and and are now binned. Wilson did nothing of note today certainly nothing that mickey couldn’t go.
 
"I will turn it around"

But he didn't say in which league.


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Kevin Ball said:
Ok I got in from the game a few hours ago, but I've had to wait until I've calmed down before writing this . One word comes to mind to sum up todays game "Toilet" . What is it with our home form . Not just that but when we play against clubs who are relegation fodder and gift them the points . First we lost to Bournemouth in our 2nd home game of the season and Wolves nearly beat us before we took a point but only after we scored a very late goal to equalise . We were 0-2 down to Fulham within 6 minutes before we got a consolation goal late in the game . We lost 3-0 to bloody Nottingham Forest . And now today we've let the do-as-you-likey's win ffs . I can hand on heart say that I'm seriously thinking about not renewing my season-ticket in June . They aren't spending the money on decent players . All of our players got done for speed today except VDV . It was horrible to watch them get beaten for pace every time when the ball was played forward for them to run onto . I kept looking at the positioning today to try and solve why we keep losing and it's simple - when we have the ball - their players were touch tight to stop us from playing our game . When they had the ball all of their players were in space ready to receive the ball . We keep playing like a pub team . What are they working on during the week ? Because its evident that whatever it is - it isn't working .

Look I'm not a fair-weather supporter , I travel all over the country to watch us play nigh on every week , sometimes 3 times a week - like next week . To watch the club I love (Who are supposed to be CL Level) get ridiculed week in week out -- its soul destroying . Everybody wanted Levy out and now he's gone it's bloody worse . We have the worst Income to wages percentage in the league so I'm told by stato in the van on the way home .

There was a mass protest before the game , and I can't say I'm surprised because the club deserve every bit of stick they get ATM . When will they realise that they are just custodians of the club , the real owners are the supporters . Should they carry on then there will be even less supporters game on game until they get the message . I see a lot of empty seats today so people are voting with their feet , and I would think that anymore displays like today and it can only get worse for the club ..

It's not rocket science running a club - The scum spend about 80% of the clubs income on player salary's , and look where they are , we on the other hand spend about 40% of our income on players salary's . Somewhere along the way we've just got used to our club ripping the cunt out of it's supporters and buying sub standard players . 3 seasons on the bounce we've sold our top goal-scorer and not replaced them with equal or better players .

We have 3 important games coming up . We face Borussia Dortmund and Eintracht Frankfurt in CL and a tough test against Burnley - who are in a relegation scrap . On todays performance , I think we lose all 3 games .

I'm going to stop there - I'm suicidal after reading this back .

As always...COYS...&...TTID................CSWY
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Like under Ange last season, I just don’t see where the next win is coming from.

That signing of “you’re getting sacked in the morning”, I don’t think I’ve ever heard anything of that magnitude before against one of our managers. Nuno had the “you don’t know what you’re doing” but it wasn’t as bad as this. I’m trying to think of a similar situation in recent times (I’m not sure even AVB got sung at like that, and that was loud from the crowd then) but struggling. No manager comes back from that.
 
spursmalc said:
If you are talking about Relegation, then the problems are football related not investment. We invest more than most of the teams in the PL. We lost to Bournemouth who had an attendance of 11000 against us. Palace are selling their best players and their Manager is leaving. only when you are talking about getting Top 4/5 is investment the problem. Last summer under Levy we knew Maddison & Kula were out for best part of the season. They brought in Kudus, Muani & Simons. Most were happy with all 3. Solanke has been out but we did not expect that when the window closed. Why they bought Tel after a poor season I find difficult to understand. Frank did not use Johnson who can score but does not contribute much else.

Those 3 have all been a disappointment and in my opinion the reason for our demise. Is that down to the Manager’s coaching, poor scouting or the players themselves, I am not sure. It is the lack of a threat up front that encourages teams to attack us and we just do not have anyone that can put the ball in the net consistently.

Our demise is in the football department including Lange & Frank & the players. We have 2 weeks to get a goal scorer in and if we don’t then replacing Frank, Lange , Vinai or ENIC will not make any difference this season. What has getting rid of Levy achieved? In recent matches Romero has realised the lack of goal scoring from the forwards and gone up front himself and been more successful. Buying a midfielder will not change it.
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When Frank goes then Lange should be packing his bags immediately afterwards.
 
williams316 said:
Glazner wants out blatantly at palace after his interview after the game today could see him walking through the door to us
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I was all for Glasner but ultimately he’s a counter attacking manager and has a massive meltdown in him, clearly.

There’s no question he’s massively done well with Palace, and that he’s being given the short end but going nuclear is just asking to be sacked.
 
Murphy said:
I was all for Glasner but ultimately he’s a counter attacking manager and has a massive meltdown in him, clearly.

There’s no question he’s massively done well with Palace, and that he’s being given the short end but going nuclear is just asking to be sacked.
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What Glasner achieved with Frankfurt and Palace, that Danish mug would never ever be able to achieve with Bayern or Barcelona. But give Glasner a top job and set of players, and see how he evolves and wins big shiny stuff.

Glasner is absolutely within his right to criticize the Palace hierarchy. They are mugging him, the players and - most importantly - the fans off. Friggin disgraceful from them after what Glasner done for the club. I now hope he fucks off and Palace get relegated this season or next.

This ain't me saying I want Glasner here by the way, but let's not act as if he & Frank are in the same stratosphere.
 
Tomo said:
Glasner is Frank 2.0 no way.

I would ask for Alonso and throw all the money to get him. Failing that we are basically waiting on Poch end of season and thus a temp manager for now. I was up for Carrick but he is at United. Ole might be available as a temp, he isn’t great but is better than nobody for now. Really not sure what the other options are.
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Just get Harry in with someone else till end of season. Or klopp for 5 months. At this stage we don’t someone to drill into players new coaching methods. We just someone with passion, desire and get the players going. Both Harry and kloop would do that as they are great man managers.
 
Coys1955 said:
He may as well have been working on basic knitting patterns.

He’s completely clueless.
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Wasn’t he talking the other day about working on the attacking phases now that he had ‘solved’ the defensive issues? He talks a lot of crap. He also doesn’t look like the type of manager who will instill some fire into the players or players would run through brick walls for him.
 
spursmalc said:
If you are talking about Relegation, then the problems are football related not investment. We invest more than most of the teams in the PL. We lost to Bournemouth who had an attendance of 11000 against us. Palace are selling their best players and their Manager is leaving. only when you are talking about getting Top 4/5 is investment the problem. Last summer under Levy we knew Maddison & Kula were out for best part of the season. They brought in Kudus, Muani & Simons. Most were happy with all 3. Solanke has been out but we did not expect that when the window closed. Why they bought Tel after a poor season I find difficult to understand. Frank did not use Johnson who can score but does not contribute much else.

Those 3 have all been a disappointment and in my opinion the reason for our demise. Is that down to the Manager’s coaching, poor scouting or the players themselves, I am not sure. It is the lack of a threat up front that encourages teams to attack us and we just do not have anyone that can put the ball in the net consistently.

Our demise is in the football department including Lange & Frank & the players. We have 2 weeks to get a goal scorer in and if we don’t then replacing Frank, Lange , Vinai or ENIC will not make any difference this season. What has getting rid of Levy achieved? In recent matches Romero has realised the lack of goal scoring from the forwards and gone up front himself and been more successful. Buying a midfielder will not change it.
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Agree mostly but getting a goal score say like even a prime Kane is no good when we don’t actually create any meaningful chances. How many times under Frank have we seen a player through on goal? Hardly any! Or a clean shot at goal without being blocked. We are devoid of creativity. Persisting with this 433 or whatever is killing us as well. The two wide players are shite. We need to may change to a 4312 with two up top like kolo and Solanke (who was shite when he came on).
 
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