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Ex-Spurs Player Danny Rose

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tricky said:
errr, no, just no.

Why would you expect Lennon's heading to be any higher? Because he clearly is a midget, a talented one, but a midget nonetheless. Also the channelling of players down the wings is the defensive stalwart of any team, not just us. Unless you think channelling play straight down our throat towards goal is a good idea.

Here's a quick patronising lesson for you.
Defence 1.01 the 4-4-2
1) have two big central defenders
2) have two pacier left/right backs
3) have two robust central midfielders
4) have two wingers who can stall / channel opposition
5) channel opposition towards corner flag.
6) if they cross rely on central defender to put their nut on it.
7) break and counter attack
No need to thank me.:adesalute:
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Just fuck off, you clueless prick
 
fyi Danny rose fits the Defence 1.01 model.

He may not be the best, but he scares me less than in that position than Atouba did.
 
tricky said:
errr, no, just no.

Why would you expect Lennon's heading to be any higher? Because he clearly is a midget, a talented one, but a midget nonetheless. Also the channelling of players down the wings is the defensive stalwart of any team, not just us. Unless you think channelling play straight down our throat towards goal is a good idea.

Here's a quick patronising lesson for you.
Defence 1.01 the 4-4-2
1) have two big central defenders
2) have two pacier left/right backs
3) have two robust central midfielders
4) have two wingers who can stall / channel opposition
5) channel opposition towards corner flag.
6) if they cross rely on central defender to put their nut on it.
7) break and counter attack
No need to thank me.:adesalute:
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Why are you talking about defense and counter attacks in a Danny Rose thread? He does neither. Danny Rose+Defense do not go hand in hand. Neither do counters. And since when has Eriksen or Lennon stalled and challenged opposition? I mean you ignore the fact that we also have a high line and we look more like a 2-2-5-1 because Rose and co are on walkabout, but carry on.
 
jimmyriggle said:
Harsh
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The only wanker to rival his GAG mates in cuntiness, arrogance and general lack of self-awareness, combined with the football knowledge equivalent of trying to swallow a blown-up balloon whole and not understanding why it's not possible. Absolute thundercunt of a troll - Tucker must have bored everyone to death on OG of these maggots are coming out of the cracks

I call for immediate termination with no severance package.
 
gibbs131 said:
Why are you talking about defense and counter attacks in a Danny Rose thread? He does neither. Danny Rose+Defense do not go hand in hand. Neither do counters. And since when has Eriksen or Lennon stalled and challenged opposition? I mean you ignore the fact that we also have a high line and we look more like a 2-2-5-1 because Rose and co are on walkabout, but carry on.
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my apologies, clearly you don't have eyes.

I know the blind girl who was on that shampoo add a year or two ago. Of course I knew her as 'mad blind purple kate' back then.

True story.
 
tricky said:
I know the blind girl who was on that shampoo add a year or two ago. Of course I knew her as 'mad blind purple kate' back then.
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How high are you right now? Gotta be glue.

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kinda strange that none of you replied to his tactical schooling lesson, this being a football formum and all that, because he is actually spot on.

The role of overlapping wingers and wingbacks in a 4-4-2 system works as he described, the idea behind it is to avoid people running at your cb's because that leaves them in a very vulnerable position - they have to chose between covering and intercepting and both deciscions make them vulnerable for the opposite choice.

If you have a winger covering the first outlet to the wide while putting pressure on the man in posession , your wingback can cover the outlets and push them as wide as they possibly can - that way the central defenders can pick their man and their lack of pace and the space behind them is mininal, the defensive mids can stop the runs from midfield and the only outlet still available for the marauding opposite winger is to deliver a killer ball - at that moment the central defender steps in, tries to win his duel (if the wingback doesnt block the cross obviously) and relaunches the ball preferably away from goal (if he is under pressure) to either side so that the wingback can try to relaunch a counter attack (with the strikers chosing a central position and timing their runs).

In an ideal world the countering wingback in posession will be a bit less wide then the attacking winger so that he has outlets and space on both sides.

They teach this to twelve year olds.
 
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Now if we are to point the blame to Rose in that system than you are not wrong, because he too often choses to intercept in stead of following and patiently anticipating the cross.

And he is very often wrong footed so that they can pass him in the most dangerous way , towards the touchline. Because a winger that doesnt go to the touchline has to do a pateneted robben move, cut in and launch it with his weaker foot (except if the winger is two footed or plays against his main foot obviously) or play the ball back to his closest midfield option.

And to sound very pedantic, seriously guys, all of you have played football at some level during your youth years no ? If you ever played as a wingback you'd know that the worst thing that can happen is having a winger that leds his man run at you so that both to your left and right there is danger. If he passes the ball wide you have a yard or so to make up to the winger that receives the ball, but if you decide to follow the winger and expect the pass there is a whole road to your opposite side free to run in and cut across to the nearest striker - not the front man but the one that comes running in the box.
 
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Belgian Spur said:
kinda strange that none of you replied to his tactical schooling lesson, because he is actually spot on.
The role of overlapping wingers and wingbacks in a 4-4-2 system works as he described, the idea behind it is to avoid people running at your cb's because that leaves them in a very vulnerable position - they have to chose between covering and intercepting and both deciscions make them vulnerable for the opposite choice.

If you have a winger covering the first outlet to the wide while putting pressure on the man in posession , your wingback can cover the outlets and push them as wide as they possibly can - that way the central defenders can pick their man and their lack of pace and the space behind them is mininal, the defensive mids can stop the runs from midfield and the only outlet still available for the marauding opposite winger is to deliver a killer ball - at that moment the central defender steps in, tries to win his duel (if the wingback doesnt block the cross obviously) and relaunches the ball preferably away from goal (if he is under pressure) to either side so that the wingback can try to relaunch a counter attack (with the strikers chosing a central position and timing their runs).

In an ideal world the countering wingback in posession will be a bit less wide then the attacking winger so that he has outlets and space on both sides.

They teach this to twelve year olds.
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I get the fundamentals: My whole point is that Rose, Naughton, Lennon, Townsend can't read the game or the execute the basics. They dribble with their heads down, ball watch, can't head, hardly intercept, win 50/50'
s or tackle, scuff crosses, blast balls when players are open etc.

The question is not about tactics when it comes to the Roses. It's about technique and footballing IQ. His positioning and reading of the game are one of the worst first choice left backs I have ever seen at this club and we have had some dunces at LB. Then to cap it off, he's not that good at all of the other aspects of the game apart from running fast.
 
gibbs131 said:
I get the fundamentals: My whole point is that Rose, Naughton, Lennon, Townsend can't read the game or the execute the basics. They dribble with their heads down, ball watch, can't head, hardly intercept, win 50/50'
s or tackle, scuff crosses, blast balls when players are open etc.

The question is not about tactics when it comes to the Roses. It's about technique and footballing IQ. His positioning and reading of the game are one of the worst first choice left backs I have ever seen at this club and we have had some dunces at LB. Then to cap it off, he's not that good at all of the other aspects of the game apart from running fast.
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As you can see from my second post, i dont disagree with you there - he makes the wrong choices all the time which actually is very sad considering he has both pace, physique and technical skills to be a very good wingback.

I disagree about Lennon on the defending part and Naughton at RB knows what he has to do and when, he just isnt good enough.
 
gibbs131 said:
How high are you right now? Gotta be glue.

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umm, no. my greatest vices these days are cheese and wine.

So, sorry old bean, I was merely making a point, although tbf that 'point' was mostly based upon your 'observations' being fundamentally flawed by your blinkered 'what I reckon' stance. Nothing personal, I'm just rude to narrow-minded people generally.

Hence, for the sake of clarity, you commented on Lennon's defensive ability (in a rose thread of all places - I know the irony). I pointed out that using his 'headers' and clearances stats was akin to basically sticking actually believing that they were without context.

Of course being the intellectual bully I am I used the comedy vehicle of being patronising in order to appear superior (which is only funny to everyone else here as they already know that I cry myself to sleep at night). Think I might have been watching Stuart Lee too much recently.

Oh yeah, and I may be many things sunshine, including being a cunt, but I don't do chav.
 
gibbs131 said:
I get the fundamentals: My whole point is that Rose, Naughton, Lennon, Townsend can't read the game or the execute the basics. They dribble with their heads down, ball watch, can't head, hardly intercept, win 50/50'
s or tackle, scuff crosses, blast balls when players are open etc.

The question is not about tactics when it comes to the Roses. It's about technique and footballing IQ. His positioning and reading of the game are one of the worst first choice left backs I have ever seen at this club and we have had some dunces at LB. Then to cap it off, he's not that good at all of the other aspects of the game apart from running fast.
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ahem.........

 
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