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Player Alejo Veliz

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Veliz deal in danger of collapsing​

Tottenham remain open to selling Alejo Veliz to Bahia - but a deal is in danger of collapsing. The striker is currently on loan at Rosario Central, any hopes Spurs had of recalling him have now ended.

That is because the recall clause in the deal is no longer valid as Veliz has played 1,430 minutes so far this season. As a result, Spurs will need the 22-year-old and Rosario Central’s approval to terminate his loan deal.

But Bahia, according to journalist German Garcia Grova, took matters into their own hands and made a formal offer to Rosario Central to terminate the loan agreement immediately. However, and this is the important part, the offer they have made expires today, meaning all parties face a race against time to get a deal completed.
 
sudoku said:

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Tottenham have been one of the busiest clubs in the January transfer window – and there could still be more incomings and outgoings before next Monday's deadline
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Veliz deal in danger of collapsing​

Tottenham remain open to selling Alejo Veliz to Bahia - but a deal is in danger of collapsing. The striker is currently on loan at Rosario Central, any hopes Spurs had of recalling him have now ended.

That is because the recall clause in the deal is no longer valid as Veliz has played 1,430 minutes so far this season. As a result, Spurs will need the 22-year-old and Rosario Central’s approval to terminate his loan deal.

But Bahia, according to journalist German Garcia Grova, took matters into their own hands and made a formal offer to Rosario Central to terminate the loan agreement immediately. However, and this is the important part, the offer they have made expires today, meaning all parties face a race against time to get a deal completed.
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Despite all the dramatic language; this really isn't a big deal either way.......... Waiting until the summer to sell him stands to have virtually no impact on what will be a nominal transfer fee regardless.
 
Football Chap said:
Deal apparently agreed and will join Bahia in Brazil permanently at the end of his Rosario loan. Rumoured to be around 10m fee.

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Does anyone care?

Complete non entity of a purchase.

Part of modern football, of course. Buying up potential talent, farming it out and selling it on when it doesnt work for you.

Same reason I wont get excited, or interested? In Souza - not until it looks like he might play for us
 
Luiz Cláudio said:
Certainly, today we no longer have Ronaldos, Adrianos, and Rivaldos. But one thing I observe in Brazilian football is that players are returning earlier from Europe and starting to play in the Brazilian Championship.
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Mostly because they aren't really doing that much elsewhere, I suspect.

Despite the insane amounts the best players get today, there are arguably only one or two who are getting into any rational discussion about the best players of all-time, the most notable being Yamal, and he is just starting out.

I think Mbappe just falls into the bracket below. Haaland, as good as he is, wouldn't feature in my opinion.

And absolutely zero from Brazil right now

I'm sure it's just a cycle but football does need a few stars to fire the fantasy.
 
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Luiz Cláudio said:
Certainly, today we no longer have Ronaldos, Adrianos, and Rivaldos. But one thing I observe in Brazilian football is that players are returning earlier from Europe and starting to play in the Brazilian Championship.
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This is the big problem with football currently, in my opinion. You get young guys working and training hard, they earn a big 5 year contract and then get lazy. They've made riches beyond their wildest dreams, there's little to motivate them. So they have a bank full of money and are happier moving back home to friends, family and good weather. They don't have the desire to keep pushing themselves till retirement age.
Big money has lowered the quality of players in the game
 
CollyQC said:
This is the big problem with football currently, in my opinion. You get young guys working and training hard, they earn a big 5 year contract and then get lazy. They've made riches beyond their wildest dreams, there's little to motivate them. So they have a bank full of money and are happier moving back home to friends, family and good weather. They don't have the desire to keep pushing themselves till retirement age.
Big money has lowered the quality of players in the game
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All contracts should be performance related, with earnings made on final position, cups won or how far they progressed in.

And for playing, with a flat set rate for not playing.
 
GinolasLeftFoot said:
All contracts should be performance related, with earnings made on final position, cups won or how far they progressed in.

And for playing, with a flat set rate for not playing.
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Sadly the only way that would work is if every club suddenly agreed at all at once to do it. If one club tried to make a stand and use that approach, no players would want to join them.

Only the very elite clubs like Madrid where trophies are a guarantee and there's huge prestige in wearing their shirt could really get away with it.
 
He never really got a chance with us did he?

Suspect all the other young strikers we have bought in the last two years will follow a similar path. We’d rather give those that have repeatedly let us down more chances over a kid coming through the ranks.

It’s always Soldado/Adebayor over Kane. The only reason he got some game time is because we paid money for him.
 
Brian Fantana said:
He never really got a chance with us did he?

Suspect all the other young strikers we have bought in the last two years will follow a similar path. We’d rather give those that have repeatedly let us down more chances over a kid coming through the ranks.

It’s always Soldado/Adebayor over Kane. The only reason he got some game time is because we paid money for him.
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I think we've definitely been guilty of that in the past, but based on everything I've seen of Veliz he's simply not very good. Reckon we purely bought him cos he was an absolute physical unit for his age and we were gambling on him turning into a monster but the rest of his game never caught up and he was pretty terrible on loan at some quite big Spanish clubs.

In this case, the players we've played ahead of him are simply much better so I don't blame the club at all. And we did actually pay quite a bit for him (13m quid for a teenager) so it's not like he was some academy kid that we paid nothing for.

Lankshear, who is kinda similar in style, looks the far more promising player than Veliz imo. I think if we don't give him a chance in the next year or two that's a much better example of the club overlooking youth. I'd 100% be integrating him into the first team squad if we go down.
 
Timberwolf said:
I think we've definitely been guilty of that in the past, but based on everything I've seen of Veliz he's simply not very good. Reckon we purely bought him cos he was an absolute physical unit for his age and we were gambling on him turning into a monster but the rest of his game never caught up and he was pretty terrible on loan at some quite big Spanish clubs.

In this case, the players we've played ahead of him are simply much better so I don't blame the club at all. And we did actually pay quite a bit for him (13m quid for a teenager) so it's not like he was some academy kid that we paid nothing for.

Lankshear, who is kinda similar in style, looks the far more promising player than Veliz imo. I think if we don't give him a chance in the next year or two that's a much better example of the club overlooking youth. I'd 100% be integrating him into the first team squad if we go down.
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Yep. Been a steaming pile of log everywhere he's went in Europe. I can't believe we still own him tbh.
 
Timberwolf said:
I think we've definitely been guilty of that in the past, but based on everything I've seen of Veliz he's simply not very good. Reckon we purely bought him cos he was an absolute physical unit for his age and we were gambling on him turning into a monster but the rest of his game never caught up and he was pretty terrible on loan at some quite big Spanish clubs.

In this case, the players we've played ahead of him are simply much better so I don't blame the club at all. And we did actually pay quite a bit for him (13m quid for a teenager) so it's not like he was some academy kid that we paid nothing for.

Lankshear, who is kinda similar in style, looks the far more promising player than Veliz imo. I think if we don't give him a chance in the next year or two that's a much better example of the club overlooking youth. I'd 100% be integrating him into the first team squad if we go down.
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Veliz looked promising for that brief moment before he got injured for us. And then he was sent on some poor loans that didn't seem well suited for him. In all truth we probably should have never bought him at all- it seems like it's been a long time- maybe never- since we've been able to develop players like him successfully in-house.

Anyways, his development arc has been mishandled by us, and it's best for both parties to part ways. I hope the club has learned something from this effort- namely what a supreme waste of time and money it ever was to invest in this kind of player speculation. We'd have been far better off putting this time and money into players actually playing for the club.
 
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