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Gray getting a yellow for kicking the ball in the back of the net again after Muani scored his first goal has to be up there with one of the most fucked up decisions.
I mean, players do that week in week out when someone scores and I don't think I've ever seen someone carded for it.
But no, Gray gets one and then that can't help but affect his game after that as he doesn't want a second yellow.
Not blatant but cumulative
I mean, players do that week in week out when someone scores and I don't think I've ever seen someone carded for it.
But no, Gray gets one and then that can't help but affect his game after that as he doesn't want a second yellow.
Not blatant but cumulative
It means that rather than answer my questions, you just ignore what I am saying when it doesnt favour your way of thinking - which is fine, I guess and is your right.
Do you think it is possible for you to be objective about this?
Here are some other fans with facts about the bias against them - all as subjective as yours im sure - all with plenty of examples and data to back up their claims.
Not sure how it could be possible that there is this much bias against everyone?
Unless there is specific bias for one thing, i.e., Man City winning, in which case it wouldn't be a bias against us specifically, just a general bias for one team, which similarly would seem weird.
Woolwich
https://www.football365.com/news/mailbox-Woolwich-refereed-differently-michael-oliver-blacklist
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/ArsenalFC/comments/1jd94vt/is_there_referee_bias_against_arsenal_the_facts/
https://untold-Woolwich.com/archives/116558
Liverpool
Objective Data: Liverpool Are Refereed VERY VERY Differently To Rival Clubs
Free Read: Detailed Data Analysis of Premier League Refereeing, 2015-2023
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View: https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/15yz5kv/liverpool_are_refereed_differently_than_other/
Paul Tierney: Why does Jurgen Klopp think referee is biased against Liverpool?
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Chelsea
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/chelseafc/comments/1rbtxnl/referees_in_the_premier_league_is_it_incompetence/
View: https://www.instagram.com/p/DRuB1hhCk4M/
It means that rather than answer my questions, you just ignore what I am saying when it doesnt favour your way of thinking - which is fine, I guess and is your right.
Do you think it is possible for you to be objective about this?
Here are some other fans with facts about the bias against them - all as subjective as yours im sure - all with plenty of examples and data to back up their claims.
Not sure how it could be possible that there is this much bias against everyone?
Unless there is specific bias for one thing, i.e., Man City winning, in which case it wouldn't be a bias against us specifically, just a general bias for one team, which similarly would seem weird.
Woolwich
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/ArsenalFC/comments/1jd94vt/is_there_referee_bias_against_arsenal_the_facts/
Liverpool
Objective Data: Liverpool Are Refereed VERY VERY Differently To Rival Clubs
Free Read: Detailed Data Analysis of Premier League Refereeing, 2015-2023
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/15yz5kv/liverpool_are_refereed_differently_than_other/
Paul Tierney: Why does Jurgen Klopp think referee is biased against Liverpool?
Baca berita ini di OneFootball.
Chelsea
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/chelseafc/comments/1rbtxnl/referees_in_the_premier_league_is_it_incompetence/
View: https://www.instagram.com/p/DRuB1hhCk4M/
Im not going to answer your questions anymore because you have continually gaslit and clearly not even talking what I'm daying into account.
I’ve already told you there is absolutely no way for me to prove what you’re asking me to prove. Bias isn’t something you can present like hard evidence, it’s something you observe through patterns and experience. So I genuinely don’t understand what else there is left to debate here?
I’ve said three times now that this conversation is pointless yet you keep trying to drag it on, why?
If you want to call me delusional, biased a sore loser, a fantasist, conspiracy theorist or any gaslighting terms you can think of then be my guest, I'm still going to express how I feel and that's that.
Debate is done now mate, thank you for your time.
It's all good, bro - you can choose not to respond - I havent dismissed everything you have said, I just recontextualised it, taking off spurs tinted glasses.
I personally find it embarrassing to have people claiming corruption and bias against us - the way I find it ridiculous when fans of other teams do it - which they all do.
Bias can absolutely be proven with hard evidence, and your saying that it cant, I guess, does render this conversation pointless.
No one does, the club don't have anyone fighting it's corner, can't remember the last time a manager actually came out and put pressure on referees and we don't have anyone in the media calling it out either...Michael Dawson is a suck up, Redknapp, Hoddle and Sherwood hate the club and King is soft as shit lol Bale, Defoe, and Crouch are more neutral, it's a real problem.
I think people that openly back Tottenham are scared of being mocked or scared of the club doing something stupid which in turn makes them look stupid (even when we have had high moments), I see the same thing with content creators as well, club plays it's position and so do those in the media.
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Booking for this, if true, is really insane. Honestly needs investigation.
Soldado once missed from that range and hit the post. Maybe he should have been sent off.
That's the problem.... It wasn't result decisive, so no one gives a shit enough to look at it...
Had the game finished 2-1 (as unlikely as that was) we may have had a conversation....
But by my mind, the dye was set when they still had 11 men on the pitch (12 including the Ref) when Gabriel didn't get sent off for blatantly obstructing Muani on goal... In fact, I thought that was a clearer foul than Muani's vicious attack from behind for the 'equaliser'!!!
The media is dominated by United, Liverpool, Woolwich punditry. Very outspoken people at times.we have Dawson, who is a club ambassador, and O’Hara, who is a tit.
Oh and apparently Redknapp who never defends us.
Nobody really defends us because there’s no one there to defend us.
Deserved it to be fair, he kicked the ball into the Arsneal fans
View: https://x.com/i/status/2026018626780778924
To be fair, that's partly on us, as we're so rarely in the opposition penalty box!
But he could've broken the netting though.... Imagine that ??
It's a clear an obvious violent assault on an innocent polypropylene net and should be eradicated from the game!
No one - certainly not the media. If anything they like it and find it funny - "It's only Spurs, it's no one important"
Our managers don't call out anything
Owners don't call out anything.
We've even got Spurs fans who seem to be trying to sit on some moral high ground that somehow we're too good to complain and we don't want to sound like a load of moaners.
There’s this strange idea that complaining makes us look small time or bitter so instead we’re meant to just smile politely accept every dodgy decision and carry on so no one accuses us of being moaners or conspiracy nutjobs, it's moral grandstanding crap lol
Yeah. Haven't you guys heard? Our club and fans are always awarded, at the end of the season, for being the most refined and righteous. Next year competition could be much harder, with 23 other teams competing.
View: https://x.com/spursarmytweets/status/2026361199818875147?s=46&t=fbqxNuG9CT4qTaiJx8mBjg
It’s even worse from that angle
VAR is crap if it's not going to get involved in a decision like that.
Thought it was clear and obvious errors?
Everyone in the world can see that’s clear and obvious
But from Banks view it’s a clear dive. Inexcusable
Thought I was beginning to get over it..but this has infuriated me. The refs need to be accountable. That’s fucking horrendous .. how can he dismiss it when watching the cross go in!