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Management Relegation

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One more thing I’llsay. Even if we do by some miracle survive. I want us to get shot of all these losers who are clearly dragging us down with their shit mentality,

Vicario, Porro, Simons, Bentancur, and especially fucking Van de Ven. Get them all to fuck.

For that cunt to have the fucking audacity to whore himself out to Gary Neville and beg for a move elsewhere given the fucking performances he’s put in this season 🤣 A £100m defender??? Don’t make me fucking laugh. The boy couldn’t header a fucking letter. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out, cunt.
 
You mean ENIC, yeah?
I mean the players. If we could get ENIC to fuck as well, that’d be great.

At the end of the day though, putting ENIC aside, that group of players shouldn’t be getting played off the park by Fulham twice in a season.

ENIC have failed to maintain us as a team that competes at the top end of the league, but I think it’s the mentality of those players that have turned us into a team that’s battling relegation. There’s been too much money spent, and too many managers and different formations and systems for it to be anything else.
 
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I honestly don’t even know where to start anymore. How have we gone from a Tottenham Hotspur side that made the UEFA Champions League final in 2019 to a team that now looks completely lost and staring relegation from the Premier League in the face?
Back then it felt like we were building towards something. Young core, proper identity, big nights in Europe, competing with anyone. And instead of kicking on, investing properly, and acting like a serious club ready to compete at the top, we’ve just drifted. Poor decisions, short-term thinking, managers in and out, signings that don’t fit, it’s been regression year after year.

What hurts the most is that it didn’t have to be this way. We were right there. One step away from being elite. And since then it feels like the ambition has completely evaporated. The ownership talk about long-term vision, but on the pitch it’s chaos. No identity, no direction, no fight at all.

Now we’re looking over our shoulder instead of looking up the table. It’s embarrassing. And honestly it just makes you sad thinking about what we could have been if the club had matched the moment instead of wasting it.

We don’t expect to win the league every year. We just want to see progress, ambition, and a team that actually looks like it knows what it’s doing. Right now it feels like we’re miles away from that.
And to make it a million times worse our cunt rivals will probably win the league and maybe even champions league after that draw.

Who would have thought the nightmare scenario of them winning the same year as we get relegated could actually come through.

What a depressing desperate time to be a Spurs fan
 
What hurts the most is that it didn’t have to be this way. We were right there. One step away from being elite. And since then it feels like the ambition has completely evaporated. The ownership talk about long-term vision, but on the pitch it’s chaos. No identity, no direction, no fight at all.
We even had a second chance with Bilbao. The momentum from winning that trophy could have been the springboard for so much more.
 
Yeah. But if we get shot of all the losers, as you put it, we all know we'll just replace them with more losers.
That's inevitably what happens when losers are running the club.
No doubt, but whatever happens, we can’t continue to stick with those players, that’s for sure.

I’d love ENIC to fuck off as much as anybody, but it ain’t gonna happen overnight. Those players could and should be sold quick enough though.
 
We even had a second chance with Bilbao. The momentum from winning that trophy could have been the springboard for so much more.
2017 PL runners up should have been a springboard
2019 CL final should have been a springboard,
2022 Conte turning our season around should have been a springboard
2025 Europa League Winners and 17th should have been a springboard AND a warning

We don't do springboards here. We ignore springboards. We look down on springboards. We spit on them. We take gift horses and take a long good look in the mouth.
 
Today scared the shit out of me. It shouldn’t have surprised me but it did.

Beating Woolwich was always a bit of a fantasy, but when Tudor came in I thought, our real season was really gonna start from today.

We’ve chucked away plenty points this season with stupid mistakes and from adopting too negative an approach in games we should be winning, but I put that down to Frank.

But today, the day that the fightback was meant to start, we got absolutely played off the park by Fulham. Fulham ffs. We looked like relegation fodder. Like a team that has just come up from the Championship for a one-season jolly. There was never a point in that game where I thought we were gonna claw our way back into it, not even when we scored.

It was two teams of a completely different level coming up against each other, where we just looked like we simply could never compete. That’s one thing when you’re up against the top sides in the league, but when it happens against Fulham, holy fuck it’s scary.

Today’s made me realise that I really don’t think these players have it in them to survive a relegation battle. They don’t have it in them to fight and scratch and claw their way out of this situation. There’s no pride there. Just a group of players who feel sorry for themselves about the horrible way the nasty fans have had the audacity to treat them like. Who don’t like the managers the club have brought in, so won’t bother their arse to even make an effort.

We’re fucked I think. Too many bad, bad personalities in that squad. Forest and West Ham have enough characters that have the fight in them to drag themselves out of trouble at our expense.

Boys like Bowen, Callum Wilson, Gibbs-White, Anderson will pull them out of it by the scruff of their neck. We don’t have anyone like that.
Agreed with your post , the only thing that surprised me was when you said you was surprised at the performance. I've been saying for weeks/ months that with our injury crisis and current form , the quality of our players that I had already written off the goons and today's game. I thought we might have created a little bit more but expected the chances we conceded , I actually feared it would be worse.
 
Alarm bells were going off in my head when the players started blaming the fans and the atmosphere earlier in the season and getting a huddle to walk off in solidarity with eachother against the fans.

Just not the attitude of players or a team who end up staying in the league. We needed players who believe in themselves to turn it around. Piss poor all around from them.
 
Alarm bells were going off in my head when the players started blaming the fans and the atmosphere earlier in the season and getting a huddle to walk off in solidarity with eachother against the fans.

Just not the attitude of players or a team who end up staying in the league. We needed players who believe in themselves to turn it around. Piss poor all around from them.
You're right and exactly this.

There probably isnt a sense of unity in the group. Most of them seem to dislike the fans, evidenced by walking off in "solidarity" which is pathetic.

Any player with personality and a positive attitude/mindset would push back against that, but we havent heard any inside information revealed about a player attacking the group for that, even after Frank's sacking.

So not a single player has the fit mentality and deserves to wear the shirt.

They will get us relegated, because at the moment, we are at West Ham and Forest's mercy until we earn some points.
 
We’re the most predictable team in the league in terms of conceding 2+ against everybody.

Even West Ham, before letting Liverpool score 5 this week, had a stretch where they only conceded 1 in 3 games, keeping clean sheets against Burnley and Bournemouth.

We’re not winning another game without putting an end to this ridiculous trend first, one that’s been going on for nearly 2 months at this point.

The last clean sheet was against Brentford on New Year’s Day.
 
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We finished 17th last season, albeit never a chance of going down. The last time I was genuinely fearful of going down was the Christian Gross season of 1997/98. We didn’t have much to spare in surviving that, but bad and all as we were, we had a few big characters and personalities in the dressing room, not least Klinsmann.

The Crystal Palace game feels really pivotal.
 
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