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Brian Fantana said:
Agree. Any of us could have wrote that but it all sounds more than plausible doesnt it?

Spurs fan Martin Lipton not holding back here. Interesting he says players agents already trying to get their players moves.


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This is the beauty of the ITK grift -

Take the pulse and either say something that aligns with folks' feelings or completely doesnt - either way - clicks, keeps people on the site, which is great for their SEO and advertising partners

in 2026 it is wild that some people still don't get how it works.
 
Get rid of Poch - fine. We were 14th and getting hammered 2-7 by Bayern when WE had Kane rather than them.

Get Mourinho - a win now manager. Fine.
Give Mourinho Bergwjin, Hart, PEH, Doherty, Rodon, Reguillon and Bale/Vinicious on loan. Then sack him when an average bunch of players is average.
Get Conte - a more up to date version of Mourinho - give him Lenglet and Danjuma on loan, Forster, Richarlison, Spence, Bissouma and Peresic and....watch as he loses his fucking mind at the inadequacy of that. Especially Lenglet on loan.
 
Matt1882 said:
Get Mourinho - a win now manager. Fine.
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The merits of Mourinho notwithstanding, conceiving of the squad he was handed as a finished product that just hadn't had the right coaching as opposed to an already horribly stale dressing room whose purpose and momentum was murdered by Summer 2018 and was irrecoverable at that point without eye-watering investment in a landscape of rapidly increasing competition is why we are where we are now.

Mourinho took over a squad that had only two players with a future at Spurs and a club that had the worst and most backward recruiting operation in the Premier League. It was already broken and on a path directly downward.
 
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FightingIllini said:
The merits of Mourinho notwithstanding, conceiving of the squad he was handed as a finished product that just hadn't had the right coaching as opposed to an already horribly stale dressing room whose purpose and momentum was murdered by Summer 2018 and was irrecoverable at that point without eye-watering investment in a landscape of rapidly increasing competition is why we are where we are now.

Mourinho took over a squad that had only two players with a future at Spurs and a club that had the worst and most backward recruiting operation in the Premier League. It was already broken and on a path directly downward.
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And we basically did it again in the summer of 2024 by hanging on to Ange and doing barely anything of note in the window.
 
Matt1882 said:
Get rid of Poch - fine. We were 14th and getting hammered 2-7 by Bayern when WE had Kane rather than them.

Get Mourinho - a win now manager. Fine.
Give Mourinho Bergwjin, Hart, PEH, Doherty, Rodon, Reguillon and Bale/Vinicious on loan. Then sack him when an average bunch of players is average.
Get Conte - a more up to date version of Mourinho - give him Lenglet and Danjuma on loan, Forster, Richarlison, Spence, Bissouma and Peresic and....watch as he loses his fucking mind at the inadequacy of that. Especially Lenglet on loan.
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Conveniently ignoring that Conte got Kulusevski and Bentancur too, plus the benefit of Romero from Nuno's summer, Royale, Gil, etc
 
Matt1882 said:
And we basically did it again in the summer of 2024 by hanging on to Ange and doing barely anything of note in the window.
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I mean we got our nine-figure fee for Kane in that window, which had been a critical festering wound in terms of the long-term outlook for the squad and avoided the catastrophe of him leaving for free. Van De Ven, Maddison, Vic (who I still hold in higher regard than some others), we got real PL players in volume that summer, which has been too rare.

It was hard to get taken seriously at the time saying this, but the situation was very far down the road toward a relegation fight at that point.
 
CJJ said:
Conveniently ignoring that Conte got Kulusevski and Bentancur too, plus the benefit of Romero from Nuno's summer, Royale, Gil, etc
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I don't personally class them as "needle movers"

Kulusevski is decent in runs then for periods under Conte and Ange was often a hindrence.
Bentancur is meh.
So no convenience.
They were winter transfers too. I was largely looking at summers.
I left out Romero because he wasn't signed for Mourinho or Conte.
So it was factually correct.
I didn't talk about Nuno.
I didn't talk about Ange, either.
 
Matt1882 said:
Get rid of Poch - fine. We were 14th and getting hammered 2-7 by Bayern when WE had Kane rather than them.

Get Mourinho - a win now manager. Fine.
Give Mourinho Bergwjin, Hart, PEH, Doherty, Rodon, Reguillon and Bale/Vinicious on loan. Then sack him when an average bunch of players is average.
Get Conte - a more up to date version of Mourinho - give him Lenglet and Danjuma on loan, Forster, Richarlison, Spence, Bissouma and Peresic and....watch as he loses his fucking mind at the inadequacy of that. Especially Lenglet on loan.
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Mostly crap moves.

Levy didn't understand why the Poch team had peaked. He thought it was as simple as there being one type of manager that wins trophies and one type that doesn't win trophies. In reality, the Poch team was never going to reach that level again without refreshing the squad, didn't matter who the manager was. The squad no longer had any depth and Kane was having ankle injury issues. Sure, we were underperforming, but Poch overperformed for multiple years, from a purely result based standpoint, I think he should have been given more of a chance to turn it around.

Mourinho had shown that he was on the decline. It was a poor, lazy move made by someone that didn't understand how to maintain success or didn't want to understand because maintaining success is expensive.

Conte was another short-term move, more defensible because his success was far more recent but Conte never stays beyond 2 seasons, so it had no long-term thinking. Just desperation to try to win a trophy with that current group of players and zero thought into what happens after those 2 seasons. We treadmilled for 2 seasons and then continued the inevitable decline.
 
FightingIllini said:
I mean we got our nine-figure fee for Kane in that window, which had been a critical festering wound in terms of the long-term outlook for the squad and avoided the catastrophe of him leaving for free. Van De Ven, Maddison, Vic (who I still hold in higher regard than some others), we got real PL players in volume that summer, which has been too rare.

It was hard to get taken seriously at the time saying this, but the situation was very far down the road toward a relegation fight at that point.
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That was 2023.
I said 2024.
 
FightingIllini said:
Ah, yeah.

Definitely a summer of a club that didn't have any particular conviction about what its needs and goals are.
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There's been too many summers where we have dithered when decisive actions were needed.
2018, after being the best team in the league for 2 seasons - shocking.
2020, after appointing a serial winner - shocking
2022, after appointing a better serial winner - even more shocking
2024, after the 2nd half of the season we'd just endured, not sacking the manager and not bringing in 4-5 1st 11 ready players - criminal.

That's the timeline of how you go from unbeaten at home in a whole season to unable to win at home (or away) for as long.
 
Matt1882 said:
There's been too many summers where we have dithered when decisive actions were needed.
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And what we're learning ever more clearly from comments and reporting around our players and coaches is how much that has affected the mentality within the dressing room about what the standards and ambitions are at the club.

The players and staff don't think this is a serious operation, so, no wonder, their focus is on themselves and their own career ladders. Here we are in a relegation scrap and nobody seems to think it's their fault.
 
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Matt1882 said:
There's been too many summers where we have dithered when decisive actions were needed.
2018, after being the best team in the league for 2 seasons - shocking.
2020, after appointing a serial winner - shocking
2022, after appointing a better serial winner - even more shocking
2024, after the 2nd half of the season we'd just endured, not sacking the manager and not bringing in 4-5 1st 11 ready players - criminal.

That's the timeline of how you go from unbeaten at home in a whole season to unable to win at home (or away) for as long.
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2025, summer. Sure we sacked the manager, but we brought in a worse manager and a load of lower midtable slop, which is why we find ourselves we are are.

January, 2026. I only wanted signings that would change the game because I have no trust that Lange will pick the right type of player. We break our wage structure on Conor Gallagher of all players, just because he was available. He's worse than what we already have and was a nail in the coffin so to speak.
 
Matt1882 said:
There's been too many summers where we have dithered when decisive actions were needed.
2018, after being the best team in the league for 2 seasons - shocking.
2020, after appointing a serial winner - shocking
2022, after appointing a better serial winner - even more shocking
2024, after the 2nd half of the season we'd just endured, not sacking the manager and not bringing in 4-5 1st 11 ready players - criminal.

That's the timeline of how you go from unbeaten at home in a whole season to unable to win at home (or away) for as long.
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Every two years then :mourwhat:
 
Matt1882 said:
There's been too many summers where we have dithered when decisive actions were needed.
2018, after being the best team in the league for 2 seasons - shocking.
2020, after appointing a serial winner - shocking
2022, after appointing a better serial winner - even more shocking
2024, after the 2nd half of the season we'd just endured, not sacking the manager and not bringing in 4-5 1st 11 ready players - criminal.

That's the timeline of how you go from unbeaten at home in a whole season to unable to win at home (or away) for as long.
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For years and years Levy / ENIC were doing just enough and relying on Kane and Son to keep us relevant and keep the peasants relatively content

"Doing just enough" has now finally caught up with the bastards
 
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