Yes. These are all the reasons he was sacked for last season.
What on earth does any of it have to do with this current season?
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Yes. These are all the reasons he was sacked for last season.
What on earth does any of it have to do with this current season?
Exactly. He's walked into a floating dumpster fire and been handed a shit sandwich with a side of horrendous luck.
And his response to that was that "we'll play well for 10 games a season, badly for 10 games a season and average for the rest".
What a way to inspire a struggling squad!
Frank being shit had nothing to do with what happened before him, it was all his own fault.
His tactics were as basic as fuck, he had no spirit about him and he choked at the chance to work at a big club with international level players.
That anyone is even trying to excuse Franks pathetic attempt at managing us is laughable in itself.
Exactly that, any half-decent manager would have focused on the positives from the previous season and used that to build upon.
Frank somehow managed to crush our confidence even more and drive us backwards.
Last season was a spring board and the club managed to slip off the end and crack it's head on it on the way down!
It's because Matt1882 decided on the day Ange Postecoglou was signed that he was shit and anyone who didn't say otherwise was someone he could bully and abuse. Which he then did for two whole seasons.
His derangement was so bad he didn't even bother going to Bilbao despite having the loyalty points and despite it being our biggest moment as a club for 40 years.
So it's no surprise that having acted so appallingly to other Spurs fans for two fucking years, getting his wish (Postecoglou sacked) Matt1882 was a little crestfallen when we didn't suddenly fly up the ladder - but instead are on the brink of Relegation.
Normal people would take a moment to reflect and, perhaps, admit they had been wrong and apologise for their behaviour. But not Matt1882. He's decided it's normal Spurs fans who celebrated winning the Europa League that are directly responsible for us being in a relegation battle.
That's how derangement works. And it ain't pretty.
Having spent a decade married to a narcissist, some of this behaviour seems rather familiar.
Having spent a decade married to a narcissist, some of this behaviour seems rather familiar.
That is probably a very accurate diagnosis. Absolute DARVO stuff. Ridiculous.
Bit of a straw man.
The question was related to managers doing a 180 on the prior season.
Frank was a bit shit and not suited to this job, but that doesn't discount the fact that I think very few managers would be able to bounce back from such an awful season to being back in the top 5.
There's clearly much more at play with this squad than coaching and tactics. The players still here from last season look like their life's ambition was to win the Europa League, and have effectively Wimmer'd themselves into submission.
Then Romero to complain about how inept the board is with in a retracted social media post
Tudor should have at least acknowledged Kinsky as he left the pitch, but going up and making a point of shaking Tudor’s hand just shows what a disrespectful little prick Spence is!
The same Spence that snubbed Frank when leaving the pitch.
It’s attitudes like this that need ejecting from this club tout suite!
Aren’t there parallels though?
Frank had us 4th in the Champions League despite very poor domestic form.
I think it indicates more about the quality of the European tournaments when compared to the Premier League.
Didn’t do very well in the domestic cups though
What's a straw fucking man?
(Jesus, I hate these trendy expressions that people love to throw around these days).
Any manager with personality and confidence would have been able to build on the positives from last season and it's not like they're dealing with a squad full of talentless duds.
We've seen it happen all over the game for decades.
The players just need a manager to connect with them and give them confidence in their own abilities, not stifle their talent (like Frank), or treat them like shit (Tudor).
The manager doesn't even have to be a tactical genius, although probably slightly more tactical that Ange was to be fair!
Surly it’s just better to go with Harry and Sherwood with the likes of Defoe , Teddy or Sir Les helping out. It’s all hands on deck time with people who care about the club. Not some has been non entity like Tudor and his back room team. Exactly what experience do they bring. Sure they should have kept Jonny H after Frank was sacked.
I'm not his biggest fan but I actually quite liked that from Spence.
I saw it as him making a point to the manager that you just don't ignore a player who has tried their best for you.
Even if they've come up short you should appreciate them, not just ignore them.
If a manager is going to treat his players like that, like chess pieces, then they are never going to fight for him, not in today's game.
Like his predecessor I don't blame Tudor for being appointed but whether you are a manager or a player, you must make a positive difference or you need to be relieved of your duties as a manager,or droppe/sold as a player.
We are a club riddled with rewards and retention for inadequacy.
We are a club riddled with rewards and retention for inadequacy.
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Hmmmmmnn.......
What's a straw fucking man?
(Jesus, I hate these trendy expressions that people love to throw around these days).
Any manager with personality and confidence would have been able to build on the positives from last season and it's not like they're dealing with a squad full of talentless duds.
We've seen it happen all over the game for decades.
The players just need a manager to connect with them and give them confidence in their own abilities, not stifle their talent (like Frank), or treat them like shit (Tudor).
The manager doesn't even have to be a tactical genius, although probably slightly more tactical that Ange was to be fair!
It isn't a "trendy expression". It's a form of logical fallacy going back to the 1700s.
To borrow a more informed description
The question posed was
"How come Frank couldn’t make a similar improvement?" (e.g. a small improvement on the prior season's performance in the league)
The irony of that, of course, is that we're currently on 29 points from 29 games, having lost the last 3 under Tudor, off the back of a season where we got 38 from 38. So at this stage of relevance, the PPG is absolutely par, even being totally abominally shite.
Nah!
We’ll just have to agree to disagree on that one!
I thought he was just being a twat and reinforcing everything I think is wrong with him attitude wise.
That’s two managers he’s humiliated on the public stage.
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He’s essentially Admiral Dönitz taking over the Third Reich on May 1st 1945 .
Who was also , somewhat “ hamstrung “ by previous events ( to put it mildly ) .
If You Know Your History…..as used to be sung , when there was a football club over there .
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