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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
30 pages to go.

Incredible work Derangers. :D

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Sorry JDefoe JDefoe , didn't appreciate that.

Think this thread is just getting beyond ridiculous. I appreciate what Ange did last year, like a lot of supporters, but we need to let it go now.
Whilst it’s not yet hit 5,000 pages and whilst bait is getting dangled and gobbled up, it’ll keep going.

Reasonably entertaining read when there’s an international break. Makes a change from the old days when AberdeenshireYid would start multiple posts asking people about their favourite brand of tea and if they liked round or cylindrical balloons.
 
That 50/51 win was some Brian Clough Derby/Forest style marching up the divisions brilliance.

Maybe De Zerbi can do something similar if worse comes to worst :cautious: :D

On that note ; I just looked it up and the two best finishes by promoted sides in the EPL
were : 93/94 The Toon and 94/5 Forest ( post Clough) ; who both finished a very creditable 3rd .

Thereafter Ipswich, Sunderland finished 5th /7th around 2000 -2001 . ( And Blackburn finished 4th 92-3 ) .

TLDR : It has been done very rarely; but not for a very long time.

The best strategy would obviously be not to get relegated in the first place imo .

And for now our destiny is still in our own hands .

COYS!!!!!
 
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This years injury crisis was just as bad. Deal with it.

Not unprecedented. Also lost games like Ipswich at home with like one or two injuries. All teams deal with injuries.

Then went and didn’t win a single game at Forest under different conditions and got his second sacking in within a year.

Top top class.

We lost more games to injuries to key players than any other club in the league under Postecoglou.

Dealing with injuries of that magnitude requires squad depth. Fraser Forster playing out from the back to a young kid in Gray and an aging Davies was an example of our depth.
 
We lost more games to injuries to key players than any other club in the league under Postecoglou.

Dealing with injuries of that magnitude requires squad depth. Fraser Forster playing out from the back to a young kid in Gray and an aging Davies was an example of our depth.

They are in the "completely making shit up" phase of derangement now. The very idea that any team can deal with 4 of their starting back 5 missing for 3 months is so utterly preposterous no serious person would ever dream of downplaying it.

The fact that this season we've had similar (but less ruinous in-season) injuries and struggled even worse, despite signing far more "league ready" players, should get any rational person to re-evaluate their anger/bitterness over what happened last season.

But they won't do it. Because they are Deranged.

And because they were so catastrophically wrong about everything that they simply cannot forgive themselves for the way they behaved - so they double down on their behaviour.

Fascinating clinical study.
 
Anyone at this point still arguing Ange was the problem, OR, that he was the cause of our issues are just showing themselves up.

There's no arguing it, there's no witty remark, or even outlandish comment at this point that can hit home anymore then where we currently find ourselves...

The damage has been well and truly done for all those Boo'boys and de'rangers. The forum, online space, and general fanbase are now seeing Ange in the light he should have always be seen in - an utter legend, and great footballing manager who just GOT IT.

Even the likes of The Extra Mile(sey) The Extra Mile(sey) these days dare even glimpse in the direction of this thread.

Looking forward to page 10000 and the time period in which GinolasLeftFoot GinolasLeftFoot 's has come full cycle and fully pining for a Ange return.

:ange-arms::angeshock:
 
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Anyone at this point still arguing Ange was the problem, OR, that he was the cause of our issues are just showing themselves up at this point.

There's no arguing it, there's no witty remark, or even outlandish comment at this point that can hit home anymore then where we currently find ourselves...

The damage has been well and truly done for all those Boo'boys and de'rangers. The forum, online space, and general fanbase are now seeing Ange in the light he should have always be seen in - an utter legend, and great footballing manager who just GOT IT.

Even the likes of The Extra Mile(sey) The Extra Mile(sey) these days dare even glimpse in the direction of this thread.

Looking forward to page 10000 and the time period in which GinolasLeftFoot GinolasLeftFoot 's has come full cycle and fully pining for a Ange return.

:ange-arms::angeshock:
You rang m'lord?
 
That 50/51 win was some Brian Clough Derby/Forest style marching up the divisions brilliance.

Maybe De Zerbi can do something similar if worse comes to worst :cautious: :D
I'll probably get laughed at by the young'uns here, but I'm getting a bit of a '77 vibe here.

Burkinshaw took over a failing, unbalanced team that was shot of confidence after playing under a tosspot manager in Terry Neil, with the General unable to stop the drop. He then then brought us back up with a young academy prospects in Hoddle making his mark.

We now have RDZ, with a young academy prospects in Moore getting ready to make his mark for us.

Those who were there at the time will probably know where I'm coming from here.

Hopefully, RDZ can go one better than The General and keep us up, then go even further and top his achievements after he brought us back up.

'77 still sits as one of the most painful times of my young life, but the aftermath to that sits as one of the only reasons I look back in the '80's with fondness.

Here's hoping RDZ gives us another decade that either matches or, the Football god's willing, betters that.
 
Anyone at this point still arguing Ange was the problem, OR, that he was the cause of our issues are just showing themselves up.

There's no arguing it, there's no witty remark, or even outlandish comment at this point that can hit home anymore then where we currently find ourselves...

The damage has been well and truly done for all those Boo'boys and de'rangers. The forum, online space, and general fanbase are now seeing Ange in the light he should have always be seen in - an utter legend, and great footballing manager who just GOT IT.

Even the likes of The Extra Mile(sey) The Extra Mile(sey) these days dare even glimpse in the direction of this thread.

Looking forward to page 10000 and the time period in which GinolasLeftFoot GinolasLeftFoot 's has come full cycle and fully pining for a Ange return.

:ange-arms::angeshock:
I'd rather be told I have late stage 4 terminal cancer.
 
Anyone at this point still arguing Ange was the problem, OR, that he was the cause of our issues are just showing themselves up.

There's no arguing it, there's no witty remark, or even outlandish comment at this point that can hit home anymore then where we currently find ourselves...

The damage has been well and truly done for all those Boo'boys and de'rangers. The forum, online space, and general fanbase are now seeing Ange in the light he should have always be seen in - an utter legend, and great footballing manager who just GOT IT.

Even the likes of The Extra Mile(sey) The Extra Mile(sey) these days dare even glimpse in the direction of this thread.

Looking forward to page 10000 and the time period in which GinolasLeftFoot GinolasLeftFoot 's has come full cycle and fully pining for a Ange return.

:ange-arms::angeshock:
Has anyone hired Sir Ange Guardiferguson yet or is he still in Nyon minding the car park and signing for deliveries?
 
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Arthur Rowe is second behind Bill Nick, John Cameron before Venables.
If you don't know who these two are, suggest you read up on the Club's history.
If we count win percentage rather than trophies then AVB is the best manager we had since 1946 with 55.00% when Arthur Turner had a win percentage of 55.10%. The all time winner is Frank Brettiell in the 1890s with 65.38%.

The figures are listed on a table on this Wikipedia page.

PS Postecoglou didn't make the cut for the table.
 
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If we count win percentage rather than trophies then AVB is the best manager we had since 1946 with 55.00% when Arthur Turner had a win percentage of 55.10%. The all time winner is Frank Brettiell in the 1890s with 65.38%.

The figures are listed on a table on this Wikipedia page.

PS Postecoglou didn't make the cut for the table.
Only if you take cup matches into account, and AVB has a large amount of cup against low league oppisition in Europe especially to boost his numbers.

Purely on a level playing of league.
Sherwood, Conte and Poch are the leading 3
 
If we count win percentage rather than trophies then AVB is the best manager we had since 1946 with 55.00% when Arthur Turner had a win percentage of 55.10%. The all time winner is Frank Brettiell in the 1890s with 65.38%.

The figures are listed on a table on this Wikipedia page.

PS Postecoglou didn't make the cut for the table.
Just shows you how statistics can be misleading - the number of games played completely skews the percentage.
No-one can argue that Bill Nick is not our most successful manager of all time.
 
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