You won't get a direct answer.
He'll just move goalposts a couple yards to the right and, with another quick sidestep, come up with another detailed explanation of absolutely nothing.
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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He'll just move goalposts a couple yards to the right and, with another quick sidestep, come up with another detailed explanation of absolutely nothing.
Neither manager had significantly more injuries than the other, they both had heaps, I recall posters posting things this season like ''ah so it wasn't Postecoglou's way that was the cause of so many injuries after all''.
I don't want to spend the next six weeks comparing injuries and splitting hairs with you, we all know there's been two seasons of awful injuries, both managers deserve equal sympathy, this isn't me saying they both have had the same injuries, it amounts to two depleted injury ridden squads.
But see your question right there, this is you going around in circles and trying to drag me around with you. I don't have anything else to add. You're asking something that I have already answered, we've lived through it as Spurs supporters.
Yeah you were right, hate being dragged into these dumb arguments with this dude, feel like it's educating a stubborn child sometimes
Guess what? I am in my own room, but I'm not arguing with myself, I've just pointed out that Postecoglou gets excuses granted that other managers don't.
It's as simple as that, I know it, you know it, everyone on this forum knows it, but very few admit it.
Shadydan was absolutely correct when he said Postecoglou has the supporters brainwashed, you and he both are living evidence, the only difference is he seems to know it and you don't.
I would argue Postecoglou gets LESS lee way because of where he came from
Australia over-achieves at the World Cup. We would have one fifth of 0.1% the resources of England. Last 16 is our ceiling, and we've done it twice. Both times losing to the eventual World Champions: in 2006 on a last minute penalty in and to Messi's Argentina in 2022.
As a like for like, at WC 2010, we got battered 1-4 by Germany. England star-studded team played the same Germany and.......got battered 1-4.
Our mentality allows us to compete when we have no right to. Postecoglou is the managing embodiment of that winners mentality.
Should we meet in the USA, We may lose but England will not batter us, as shit as we are. s
Dragged in? LOL you couldn't jump in quick enough, but I get it, you hate losing.Yeah you were right, hate being dragged into these dumb arguments with this dude, feel like it's educating a stubborn child sometimes
Celtic? Or are you referring to his Australian citizenship?
There is that sidestep again.
You’re like a watch. Easily wound up
We used to be good at Rugby Union, but then that's a different story!You should broaden your sporting horizons.
I mean basketball is good.
And the GB basketball team is unreal.
For the record we invest less than the UK in sport.
We’re just not fat lazy bludgers sitting on a couch watching tele whinging about Ange and Spurs!
Go outside and have a walk
No, I was just using your post as a springboard to point out that Ange had somehow 'normalised losing' was a load of old bollocks.
It wasn't intended as a dig at you - unless you also subscribe to the nonsensical idea that Postecoglou 'made losing acceptable'.
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Ange was the manager, so he's responsible for the losses just as he is for the wins.
It's just that there are also mitigating circumstances for the volume of losses in the league last season, such as the injuries, and the switch to focusing on the cups.
There are also contributing factors outside of his control to some of the wins too, of course.
He definitely got lucky during some of the games we won last season, most notably the Europa League final.
Ultimately though, all results are the responsibility of the manager.
However, some results are a lot more meaningful than others:
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Probably both.
But weird to have these arguments claiming Ange would never have relegated us. We are dead level on points with where we were at the same time last year. We just don’t have Leicester to save us this time.
I agree the squad is technically average-poor, but not relegation level poor.
I also should have been more specific: Frank was given a platform of players who were united and on an emotional and mental high, willing to run through brick walls for the club and manager.
The mentality and confidence side of the game is just as important as technical ability- I mean look at the relegation thread, the one common theme is fans want the players to fight and leave it all on the pitch. The worst example of mental collapse IMO was Brazil in WC 2018 being belted 7-1. Highly technical players (ok we bought the only Brazillian in the world who plays football like baby giraffe with a beach ball) but they were mentally fragile in the moment.
Frank killed the players motivation and confidence.
You should broaden your sporting horizons.
I mean basketball is good.
And the GB basketball team is unreal.
For the record we invest less than the UK in sport.
We’re just not fat lazy bludgers sitting on a couch watching tele whinging about Ange and Spurs!
Go outside and have a walk
I tried that and got arrested. I came here to have a cunt off and I now see I initially miss-read a word.
Post removed.Asking for clarification isn't avoidance.
Here's a straightforward question for you.
Do you believe that Ange installed a "losing mentality" in the players, which has carried forward to the current season?
Both, but then you knew that before you asked the question.