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thinktank said:
There's nothing you, or any one else, can say that dissolves the fundamental determinate of the players having a deep-rooted, methodically ingrained losing mentality due to the diabolical management of Ange Postacoglou.
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I see Nottingham Forest won again. Strange how Ange didn't ingrain a losing mentality into their players, despite never winning a game with them.

Which of our players do you think Ange "saturated" with this losing mentality, incidentally?

Maybe, James Maddison or Dejan Kulusevski, who've not played a single minute for Spurs this season?

Or perhaps you mean Son Heung-min or Brennan Johnson, two of our highest goal scorers last season? No can't be them, as they were both sold, presumably with Tomas Frank's blessing.

Perhaps you mean Kolo Muani? Or Xavi Simons? Or Mohammed Kudus? Connor Gallagher? João Palhinha? Souza?

No, of course not as they didn't even play under Ange Postecoglou.

Surely you don't mean Archie Gray (widely considered to be our best player this season) or Lucas Bergvall (who, again has barely played this season, but came on last game and immediately got an assist, which should have won us the game).

What about Mickey Van Der Ven, or Christian Romero then? Well as has been repeatedly been pointed out, we won the majority of games they played together last season, so can't be them either.

I could go on, but perhaps you get the point. Our league form was poor under Ange, no doubt, but we did win something under him, or have you forgotten?
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If anything it was Tomas Frank who removed the culture of winning things from our players.
 
There were people on this forum who actually wanted to give Frank a whole season despite watching his football.

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walter said:
I see Nottingham Forest won again. Strange how Ange didn't ingrain a losing mentality into their players, despite never winning a game with them.

Which of our players do you think Ange "saturated" with this losing mentality, incidentally?

Maybe, James Maddison or Dejan Kulusevski, who've not played a single minute for Spurs this season?

Or perhaps you mean Son Heung-min or Brennan Johnson, two of our highest goal scorers last season? No can't be them, as they were both sold, presumably with Tomas Frank's blessing.

Perhaps you mean Kolo Muani? Or Xavi Simons? Or Mohammed Kudus? Connor Gallagher? João Palhinha? Souza?

No, of course not as they didn't even play under Ange Postecoglou.

Surely you don't mean Archie Gray (widely considered to be our best player this season) or Lucas Bergvall (who, again has barely played this season, but came on last game and immediately got an assist, which should have won us the game).

What about Mickey Van Der Ven, or Christian Romero then? Well as has been repeatedly been pointed out, we won the majority of games they played together last season, so can't be them either.

I could go on, but perhaps you get the point. Our league form was poor under Ange, no doubt, but we did win something under him, or have you forgotten?
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If anything it was Tomas Frank who removed the culture of winning things from our players.
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Luckily for them he only had 6 games of his disaster losing football with them.

Not enough time to totally reduce them to a mental puddle, like he did our players.

Fatinakis was wise enough to cut the cord before it went too far.

The kind of sense Baldcunt could have done with.

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thinktank said:
Luckily for them he only had 6 games of his disaster losing football with them.

Not enough time to totally reduce them to a mental puddle, like he did our players.

Fatinakis was wise enough to cut the cord before it went too far.

The kind of sense Baldcunt could have done with.

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8 games, but don't let facts get in the way of your delusional misangethropy.

Couldn't help noticing you ignored the second part of my post, much to my complete lack of suprise.
 
I can't be fucked with the past normally but keeping this cunt on for so long is the sole reason we are in severe danger of relegation.
He should have gone after the Chelsea game.
In fact he should never have been employed by THFC in the first place.
 
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As much as I hated Levy , and wanted him gone - he wasn't slow in pushing the button on an underperforming manager . He would have sacked TF in October , and he certainly wouldn't have got Tudor in as temporary manager . With 12 players on the physio's treatment table he would've bought players in January to bolster the squad - especially as we were still in the Champions League and doing well I might add . I wish they had waited until the summer to sack Levy , we wouldn't be in the situation we find ourselves in now . For all those wanting him gone - me included - be careful what you wish for , because you might just get it , and you have to live with the consequences .
 
thinktank said:
There's nothing you, or any one else, can say that dissolves the fundamental determinate of the players having a deep-rooted, methodically ingrained losing mentality due to the diabolical management of Ange Postacoglou.

Nothing on earth reverses that fact or magics it away.

I can do this all day, every day.

Your cultish gaslighting bollocks will not work here.

All you gimps flocking to this thread to seed your narrative to lay Ange's dark deeds at Franks door, if we go down, is obvious and cringe.

And it ain't gonna fly, because everyone who's not ANGE CULT FC, saw those 22 losses with their own eyes and knew the harm it would do.
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I will reply to this equally in breakdown with each section you have chosen to breakdown.

Deluded.

Deluded.

Deluded.

Deluded.

Deluded Frank Cuck.

Deluded ego fragile cuck.
 
Speaking of losing mentalities, how about Manchester United last season. They had for all intents and purposes just as bad a league season as Spurs and they actually lost the Europa final, throwing away Champions League football in the process.

Amorim instilled such a habit of losing and failure into that group that they probably won’t recover for years.

Oh wait, they’re 3rd.
 
Mince Charming said:
Speaking of losing mentalities, how about Manchester United last season. They had for all intents and purposes just as bad a league season as Spurs and they actually lost the Europa final, throwing away Champions League football in the process.

Amorim instilled such a habit of losing and failure into that group that they probably won’t recover for years.

Oh wait, they’re 3rd.
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Gets ignored bud, as it doesn’t fit the rampant stupidity of the losing mentality argument.

Same as every other team in history that’s been on a losing run and then turn it around. Ignored.

The only time in the history of the game that a manager has instilled a losing mentality is Ange for us. It means we are special. We should maybe embrace this.
 
Timberwolf said:
Love that we've now got 2 threads of people at war over previous managers. Can't wait for the Tudor thread to reemerge so the serious perverts can start fighting over his legacy too.
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As relegation becomes ever more likely the people who spent two years cunting off the previous manager realise they are in the gun for what's happened since they got what they wanted and he was sacked. So you get the sad spectacle of what ThinkTank is doing right now.

That's gonna get pushback by the people ThinkTank spent bullying for two years. That's just natural.

The truth is neither manager is truly responsible for our relegation. It was always catastrophic injuries combined with some spectacularly bad squad building. (And that Frank was less about maximising WINS over trying to avoid LOSSES)

De Zerbi will sort it. If he stays. And if we just commit to the project. Long term we'll be fine.

In the short term though? There will be blood :D
 
Kevin Ball said:
As much as I hated Levy , and wanted him gone - he wasn't slow in pushing the button on an underperforming manager . He would have sacked TF in October , and he certainly wouldn't have got Tudor in as temporary manager . With 12 players on the physio's treatment table he would've bought players in January to bolster the squad - especially as we were still in the Champions League and doing well I might add . I wish they had waited until the summer to sack Levy , we wouldn't be in the situation we find ourselves in now . For all those wanting him gone - me included - be careful what you wish for , because you might just get it , and you have to live with the consequences .
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Last season we were plummeting towards relegation at a rate of knots. Levy sat on his hands and didn’t sack Postecoglou.

Last January we had a similar amount if not more injuries than January this season. Levy did just as little in the window.

Levy has employed clowns like Sherwood and Stellini as interim managers previously. He 1000% would have given Tudor the gig, particularly when he was recommended by Paratici.

Levy’s running of this football club is directly responsible for the position we find ourselves in, and I am absolutely sure we would be in exact same place we are now with him at the helm.
 
TomHotspur said:
Last season we were plummeting towards relegation at a rate of knots. Levy sat on his hands and didn’t sack Postecoglou.

Last January we had a similar amount if not more injuries than January this season. Levy did just as little in the window.

Levy has employed clowns like Sherwood and Stellini as interim managers previously. He 1000% would have given Tudor the gig, particularly when he was recommended by Paratici.

Levy’s running of this football club is directly responsible for the position we find ourselves in, and I am absolutely sure we would be in exact same place we are now with him at the helm.
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I hated Levy when he was at the club but you can't say that he wouldn't have acted earlier . There's no way Levy would have let that happen . Stellini had a good start and was only temporary . We have long term injuries to 3 key players and he definitely would've bought in the January window . Levy did sack managers when the figures were collapsing . Sherwood had good figures when he was managing us . Postecoglou had taken his eye off the league as we were concentrating on the 3 cups , but when we needed points we won 3 games on the spin to climb back out of trouble . It's funny how so called fans shit on a manager that has won us our first trophy for 17yrs and our first European Trophy for 40 odd years . With support like that I think our club could do without their little donation and so called support .
 
Kevin Ball said:
I hated Levy when he was at the club but you can't say that he wouldn't have acted earlier . There's no way Levy would have let that happen . Stellini had a good start and was only temporary . We have long term injuries to 3 key players and he definitely would've bought in the January window . Levy did sack managers when the figures were collapsing . Sherwood had good figures when he was managing us . Postecoglou had taken his eye off the league as we were concentrating on the 3 cups , but when we needed points we won 3 games on the spin to climb back out of trouble . It's funny how so called fans shit on a manager that has won us our first trophy for 17yrs and our first European Trophy for 40 odd years . With support like that I think our club could do without their little donation and so called support .
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I reckon Levy wouldn't have had the complete control he had previously had he stayed another year - pretty obvious Vinai was the eyes and ears of the board and was put in place to keep Levy on a tighter leash. Therefore I don't think Levy would've been allowed to be too trigger happy and bin off Frank really early if Vinai, Lange and the board weren't in agreement.

However, I do think Levy would've had enough sway to get Frank binned off at least a few weeks earlier and would've made sure we got a few players signed in Jan to ensure survival. Lange and Vinai's careers will be tainted by relegation, but they can get their payouts and move on. Levy on the other hand owns 30% of ENIC. He stands to lose FAR more from relegation than them and wouldn't have taken the same risks imo.
 
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