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Has VAR Ruined Football?

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John Duncan said:
We’re miles better than them ; the stats prove it .
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Gobbygonk said:
Tottenham have the most yellow cards 67 this season - Arsenil have the least 45
Tottenham have the least penalties given with zero - Arsenil have 4
Tottenham have the second highest red cards with 4 - Arsenil have zero
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Don’t we have 87 yellows. The reason all those teams have so little fouls, hundreds less than us is the fouls are not getting called. That’s how to control a game, you change the rules for some but not for all. Watch an Woolwich game, they foul constantly and get away with it.
 
Football is a game played mainly with the feet with the hands not to be used by outfield players hence deliberate hand ball is punished. So why as we so frequently see nowadays is the use of hands allowed in holding & pushing players? The WH non penalty yesterday should have been a penalty for handball but also holding a player who could not move. Whilst football was in other ways rougher in the 1960/70's I cannot recall the excessive holding in those days that has crept into the game. Why is VAR not calling it out.
 
spursmalc said:
Football is a game played mainly with the feet with the hands not to be used by outfield players hence deliberate hand ball is punished. So why as we so frequently see nowadays is the use of hands allowed in holding & pushing players? The WH non penalty yesterday should have been a penalty for handball but also holding a player who could not move. Whilst football was in other ways rougher in the 1960/70's I cannot recall the excessive holding in those days that has crept into the game. Why is VAR not calling it out.
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I watched that game today and couldn’t believe what he was allowed to get away with.

F-ing incredible what’s happened to the game.

And this is nothing about it being about a WHAM player ; Everton scored from the resulting corner ( or very shortly thereafter) IIRC .
 
spursmalc said:
Going on our matches only, I have much more faith in Foreign refs/VAR in European matches than in PL. I am sure someone will come up with examples where that is not true but that is my feeling. Why is that? It could be that foreign officials are less biased against us or simply they have a better interpretation of what to do. Cannot recall long waits for decisions.
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It's a good idea. No refs allowed to officiate in their own countries cutting down on the possibility of favouritism...
 
John Duncan said:
Like I alluded to ; the laws of the game weren’t drawn up with any reference to VAR.

I can see the point of it ; but where it is applied the laws should be adjusted to take its use into account . ( If that makes sense) .

Ie we‘ve got machine technology judging situations that are intended to be judged by humans ; but in turn those machine-judged situations are being arbitrated by , err humans at Stockley Park ; it just seems imperfect to me .

PS Theyve done away with line-judges at Grand Slam Tennis tournaments and now rely on machines ; but the issue of whether a ball lands in or out depends on , in effect , clear daylight; it’s a binary decision. ( Again , if you see what I mean ) .
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I really missed them at Wimbledon...just seems wrong not having them...looks so sterile...
 
John Duncan said:
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I watched that game today and couldn’t believe what he was allowed to get away with.

F-ing incredible what’s happened to the game.

And this is nothing about it being about a WHAM player ; Everton scored from the resulting corner ( or very shortly thereafter) IIRC .
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the ref actually gave a goal kick - so I'm guessing he didn't even think the Wham player touched it at all. :mourshock:
 
PSG tonight...

How many times have we seen this farce play out?...

1. Ref gives correct decision = no penalty

2. Bloody VAR pokes its slo-mo nose in and questions the decision

3. Ref goes to the screen and changes his mind because he's shown a dodgy viewpoint = penalty awarded incorrectly

grrrrrrrrrrr
 
Been out today and not seen the controversial VAR decision today. Whilst happy WH lost surprised no discussion on it. What do posters think was it a goal?
 
spursmalc said:
Been out today and not seen the controversial VAR decision today. Whilst happy WH lost surprised no discussion on it. What do posters think was it a goal?
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As much as these were

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If this farce VAR is going to continue there needs to be a balancing mechanism. I don't like the Yankification of the sport but its here and its not going away. So give teams a couple of reviews.

You should be allowed to point to other incidents and ask where the consistency is.

Obviously I'd much rather they just the technology out of the gam and we could all enjoy goals again, but its staying.
 
Distaste for scouse said:
If this farce VAR is going to continue there needs to be a balancing mechanism. I don't like the Yankification of the sport but its here and its not going away. So give teams a couple of reviews.

You should be allowed to point to other incidents and ask where the consistency is.

Obviously I'd much rather they just the technology out of the gam and we could all enjoy goals again, but its staying.
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Said it before but Rugby league of all sports has a great system with the tech. Refs can give a decision on field, but send it up for review if they think something happened.

Teams also get a captains challenge if they think the refs ballsed up, that they keep if they was right. For football id maybe remove the first aspect cause you would get refs sending shit up for anything. But a captains challenge for any wrong calls should be the way we move forward. Cause at the moment VAR is rather quickly killing the sport. Because all its done is give the same morons who ref an even bigger way to make wrong calls
 
Distaste for scouse said:
If this farce VAR is going to continue there needs to be a balancing mechanism. I don't like the Yankification of the sport but its here and its not going away. So give teams a couple of reviews.

You should be allowed to point to other incidents and ask where the consistency is.

Obviously I'd much rather they just the technology out of the gam and we could all enjoy goals again, but its staying.
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Just referee corners and free kicks properly and there is no issue. Attackers can't hold, pull and push and neither can defenders and Refs will call it all. Problem solved.
 
I just read that the VAR official whose decision led to West Ham's goal being disallowed yesterday was also infamously responsible for chalking off Luis Diaz's goal for Liverpool against us.

Thank you Darren England. You're lovely 💜💜💜

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