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Player Xavi Simons

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Yeah perhaps that's correct. I'm looking for someone to blame really! It's not a good look for them to not deal with it better and stretcher him straight off though in my view. Clearly in a lot of distress and they caused more potentially.

It's very hard to bear, just sickening 😞

I do have hard time attributing them all to bad luck though, given how poorly we function on football related matters. Medical team has been replaced twice now? Or certainly refreshed twice iirc. Perhaps the fitness regimes the players are on (gym stuff etc) is slightly off and they are not strengthening key things they should be. I'm clutching at straws, I just want it to stop, so I hope there is a reason that can be addressed... It's a bit more difficult addressing bad luck though.

I'm torn between wanting to blame the medical department and the likelier we are just unbelievably unlucky as a club, to have endured a season of so many injuries to key players, although the club knew Kulusevski and Maddison were both out before the season started.

None of us know the intricacies of what goes on and I just don't believe we would employ less than the best as it is no way you want to treat such expensive investments.

They say these things even themselves out, and it's true that there are other clubs who have had some long-tern injuries to key players. Ours feel worse but maybethat's thee proximity to it all.

But for me, it's less medical department and more Lange, the CEO, and our so-called spine of Romero, Van De Ve, Solanke and Vicario who have let us down to the point where I'm not forgiving any of them. Not good enough examples as players and not one of the 4 has had more than a 6 out of 10 season at best. Lange and the CEO are simply inept and mostly just don't have a love for the club. Clear as day.
 
no conspiracies other than papa joe says we can't spend on sport like a proper club. we're simply a cracker jack operation and this is the kind of shit that happens to organizations like us. weren't we advertising for this medical staff on linkedin not long ago? i don't know how these things usually happen but if you're a football pro i'd think you have connections and knowledge beyond social media to make hires like this. is the retractable pitch contributing? sure, but it's also a lack of depth and the start and stop training changes. more than anything though, it's the headless chicken nature of the entire club that leads to all this 'bad luck' we experience even on the pitch. players aren't focused and well managed so they run around listless and get injured and then take way too long to come back, further depleting depth because we don't restock the squad... blah blah

again, burn it all down and start over with new owners. nothing else gets us back where we belong.
 
I'm torn between wanting to blame the medical department and the likelier we are just unbelievably unlucky as a club, to have endured a season of so many injuries to key players, although the club knew Kulusevski and Maddison were both out before the season started.

None of us know the intricacies of what goes on and I just don't believe we would employ less than the best as it is no way you want to treat such expensive investments.
If you can make your own luck, then surely you can make your own bad luck too?
There's blame EVERYWHERE... but we really haven't helped ourselves with the way this shitshow of a board have been 'running' the club (into the ground!)

They say these things even themselves out, and it's true that there are other clubs who have had some long-tern injuries to key players. Ours feel worse but maybethat's thee proximity to it all.

But for me, it's less medical department and more Lange, the CEO, and our so-called spine of Romero, Van De Ve, Solanke and Vicario who have let us down to the point where I'm not forgiving any of them. Not good enough examples as players and not one of the 4 has had more than a 6 out of 10 season at best. Lange and the CEO are simply inept and mostly just don't have a love for the club. Clear as day.
They really DON'T even themselves out... Or else clubs like West Ham & Woolwich would've ALSO had 12-14 first team players out at anyone time... And they simply haven't!

no conspiracies other than papa joe says we can't spend on sport like a proper club. we're simply a cracker jack operation and this is the kind of shit that happens to organizations like us. weren't we advertising for this medical staff on linkedin not long ago? i don't know how these things usually happen but if you're a football pro i'd think you have connections and knowledge beyond social media to make hires like this. is the retractable pitch contributing? sure, but it's also a lack of depth and the start and stop training changes. more than anything though, it's the headless chicken nature of the entire club that leads to all this 'bad luck' we experience even on the pitch. players aren't focused and well managed so they run around listless and get injured and then take way too long to come back, further depleting depth because we don't restock the squad... blah blah
again, burn it all down and start over with new owners. nothing else gets us back where we belong.
Feels like we're heading towards being EXACTLY where we belong!
 
Maybe it's time for a hometown hero in Williams-Barnett. Whilst it's almost 100% not going to happen, who else is left, realistically? The players who can play that position aren't really capable. That leaves shoe-horning in players into a role that weakens the team.

We're in a pickle, to say the least, and it might be fanciful to think the lad can be a saviour but with the fearlessness of youth, and maybe even the 'fuck it' attitude, he can be a key component.
Completely agree LW-B is the future. I was advocating for his inclusion when Tudor was here, it never materialised but I hope RD-Z will be bold and get him in the team. The lad has ability that we are now not taking onto the pitch and perhaps only Simons can match.
 
Okay, I am not one for conspiracy theories. I was a firm believer that we were just unlucky with injuries.

But watch this video and and tell me it's not the pitch that is causing all these injuries. The grass depth is about 50mm which is like running on concrete. Now I understand some of these injuries happen away form our stadium but I am left wondering if our pitch is wearing our players down and making them more susceptible to long term injuries.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9kDe1eOn64

Real Madrid had the same pitch installed in 2023 and since then they have had 6 ACL injuries in 2.5 years. Carvajal, Alaba, Militao (twice), Courtois and Rodrygo.
 
Okay, I am not one for conspiracy theories. I was a firm believer that we were just unlucky with injuries.

But watch this video and and tell me it's not the pitch that is causing all these injuries. The grass depth is about 50mm which is like running on concrete. Now I understand some of these injuries happen away form our stadium but I am left wondering if our pitch is wearing our players down and making them more susceptible to long term injuries.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9kDe1eOn64

Real Madrid had the same pitch installed in 2023 and since then they have had 6 ACL injuries in 2.5 years. Carvajal, Alaba, Militao (twice), Courtois and Rodrygo.


Interesting

Id also check out the boots these players are wearing and if there is a common link. It seems the studs get stuck and the knee then bends awkwardly
 
Completely agree LW-B is the future. I was advocating for his inclusion when Tudor was here, it never materialised but I hope RD-Z will be bold and get him in the team. The lad has ability that we are now not taking onto the pitch and perhaps only Simons can match.
At this rate, I'd give R2-D2 a go...

It’s really shit news for the lad, but I can’t help finding the whole delete all my socials drama lama nonsense a tad cringe!
Maybe it's 'cos he knows deep down that he's never actually playing for us again!!! :simonstongue:
 
Okay, I am not one for conspiracy theories. I was a firm believer that we were just unlucky with injuries.

But watch this video and and tell me it's not the pitch that is causing all these injuries. The grass depth is about 50mm which is like running on concrete. Now I understand some of these injuries happen away form our stadium but I am left wondering if our pitch is wearing our players down and making them more susceptible to long term injuries.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9kDe1eOn64

Real Madrid had the same pitch installed in 2023 and since then they have had 6 ACL injuries in 2.5 years. Carvajal, Alaba, Militao (twice), Courtois and Rodrygo.


At least two (Maddison/Simons) of our ACL’s happened on other pitches.
 
Interesting

Id also check out the boots these players are wearing and if there is a common link. It seems the studs get stuck and the knee then bends awkwardly
Can't be... Vinai & Lange explained they'd set up a lucrative Boot deal for ALL the players at the club...
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At least two (Maddison/Simons) of our ACL’s happened on other pitches.
It's not the pitch, is it?
Athletes of all kinds play sports on all sorts of different pitches. Half of Scotland play on plastic pitches and don't get the ACL injuries we've had.
Likewise, I'm sure a deep dive would show it isn't just is a Real getting them. There's other factors at play, like volume of games, training regimes, medical staff (lack thereof) etc.
A guys just ran 26 miles in under 2 hours. There's no way 10k a game on a slightly unusual pitch has caused 4 different players to rupture ACL's.
 
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