Kompany gets buy in because he was an extremely well respected player at the top level of European football.
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Kompany gets buy in because he was an extremely well respected player at the top level of European football.
Oh, so know you you are attributing a post to me which is completely fabricated by you.
Talk about a loser.
Yeah mate because it wasn’t really obvious that I’d edited the post or anything, I was definitely trying to pass it off as yours.
Can’t you go join a forest forum and argue with them about how amazing Ange is? Or did they already ban you from there?
Gerrard and Lampard even more so. And then there's Rooney.
Yeah, they probably got buy in too. They’re just not very good managers, maybe with the exception of Lampard.
Ange wouldn’t have any credit in the bank. Top players don’t care about the Europa league, they don’t know who this Aussie bloke is and when they google him they’ll see a mostly nothing career with clubs they haven’t heard of.
There's plenty of top footballers who dont male top managers and plenty of top managers who weren't great footballers.
Yeah of course. They earn their respect in other ways. Kompany likely walked in respected by Bayern though, which makes things easier. Despite his failure at Burnley.
Better managers than Ange have failed at Bayern. Tuchel is levels above and wasn’t good enough.
Mate these guys aren't buying into him at a massive club like Bayern just because he played football at the top level especially since, as a manager, he relegated Burnley, he obviously had to prove himself to them, these players didn’t even want to buy into Tuchel.
He speaks with a lot of maturity and emotional intelligence and has a commanding presence, only certain managers have that, Ange is definitely one of them.
Before Ange came here, I didn't follow the EPL at all.
Now, I'm a Spurs supporter for life, whether Ange is here or not and can voice my opinion accordingly.
Which makes it the more extraordinary that Postocoglou has gone as far as he has.
IMO his capacity to get buy in from his players is second to none because he can connect with them on an emotional level that not many managers can.
Its also true that top players get opportunities to manage in the top flight and get initial buy in as managers because they were to players, but that aura evaporates quickly if they are actually shit at managing.
Had Postocoglou been given the same opportunity as Gerard, or Lampard or even Kompany at the same age, he would surpass all of them.
Lol he wouldn’t surpass Kompany, Kompany comes across much more intelligent and measured than Ange does. Much deeper understanding of the sport imo.
Kompany and Postecoglou are both ex-City Football Group. CFG don't pick donkeys to join their ranks.They were both exposed the same philosophy of attacking football and effective possession.
The crucial difference is that Kompany had the advantage that he was exposed to that at a much earlier stage in his managerial career.
Stick Kompany in football backwater like Australia at the beginning of his managerial career and he'd probably still be there today.
Yeah I think it's completely diffrent I get that Ange has a big persona but so do most actors. Kompany is been there done that leader at elite level. Its totally diffrent, its the medals on the table buy in that works with even the thickest player.
His groupies need to dial it down everything isn't about him personally. He is good at emoting but tactically he's stone age compared to what I watched last night. People look at the goals but Kane pointed out the defending in the face of last nights attacking was quality. Even our best football under Postecoglou we we're defensively sub par the lack of discipline thinking in particular of that Chelsea game was poor, levels below what Tah, Mendes Marquinhos stood up too. What a fucking captain that bloke and Hakimi are by the way. If people think Romero is a great centerback they are wrong.
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It's a lot more difficult to get Spurs down towards the relegation places than it is to get Burnley down there.
To get Spurs down that end of the table you have to have really honed your craft as an incompetent manager.
To get Spurs down that end of the table you have to have really honed your craft as an incompetent manager.
Agree absolutely with your 1st paragraph but the rest? Have you completely insane?
Seemingly just as difficult as winning a trophy at Spurs, so that probably cancels out the 17th placed finish tbh
Are you referring to last season?
When we were never a chance of relegation AND we won THAT CUP.
No it does not. The Europa League got weaker since there are no drop downs from the Champions League and the revenues between the PL and the other leagues are so far apart, it does not need a miracle to come far in Europe. West Ham won the Conference League, Nottingham is now in the semi finals in the Europa League, without throwing the league away.
And again: I loved the cup win, but even the final was so low standards and we just got on the lucky side. Even the game winner was just a coincidence, not great coaching. Again, thanks Ange for that moment, you didn't prove to be the manager that takes us forward short- and longterm though.
I blame myself for still taking time posting here though, but here we go...
And yet other prestious managers we have had have lost to worse opponents in Europe than we played on our run to winning it.
Don't care if the EL is weaker than it was, that's besides the point...the difficulty for us is that we don't or at least we didnt win trophies, Ive seen my club get knocked out of comps against relegated teams, teams from the lower leagues, teams who have managers in prison and it's not because they were better than us. It's because it's Spurs...Ange broke that curse...fuck me we couldn't even get through a Conf League group under Conte.
So yeah that's a massive achievement for this club, winning a trophy at a club who is trophy starved and winning a major on at that shouldn't really be brushed over as easy as that.