Match Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa (A) - Premier League - 3rd May, 7pm

[justin]

We are where we are down to our own making, nothing to do with unconscious bias against us.
As a club ( except for the fans and background staff ) we deserve to be relegated.

The owners , shareholders , players, physios , coaches , have relegated us to the championship next season, not the referees .

 

[koko619]

why is time so slow

 

[GinolasLeftFoot]

We are where we are down to our own making, nothing to do with unconscious bias against us.
As a club ( except for the fans and background staff ) we deserve to be relegated.

The owners , shareholders , players, physios , coaches , have relegated us to the championship next season, not the referees .

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Sorry the Refs have played a huge part.

How many points have we lost due ref ruling our goals out?

Not being given clear penalties?

The massive disparity between, ref giving opositions goals whilst flooring our defenders with two handed pushes, yet, as per Woolwich, they go down flakes and our goals are ruled off.

Our players getting no protection from refs, yet lesser fouls by Romero gets straight reds... Xavi is kicked about every week, yet doesn't get fouls against him.

Why have had no penalties this season, despite blatant ones not given?

The refs have been biased woeful cunts towards us this season...

But the poor descions is far too consistent.

Oh and West Ham getting away with a blatant penalty against villa... Coz the FA is corrupt and full of Goons, Pool, and Spam fans.

Not to mention to the nothing done to ManC and Liverpool for cheating.

 

[justin]

Sorry the Refs have played a huge part.

How many points have we lost due ref ruling our goals out?

Not being given clear penalties?

The massive disparity between, ref giving opositions goals whilst flooring our defenders with two handed pushes, yet, as per Woolwich, they go down flakes and our goals are ruled off.

Our players getting no protection from refs, yet lesser fouls by Romero gets straight reds... Xavi is kicked about every week, yet doesn't get fouls against him.

Why have had no penalties this season, despite blatant ones not given?

The refs have been biased woeful cunts towards us this season...

But the poor descions is far too consistent.

Oh and West Ham getting away with a blatant penalty against villa... Coz the FA is corrupt and full of Goons, Pool, and Spam fans.

Not to mention to the nothing done to ManC and Liverpool for cheating.

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Every other team has bad decisions go against them. We’ve had no penalties because we create no opportunities .
We are going to be relegated because we are are not the level required for the premier league. We were given a warning last season, we didn’t learn from it. Too arrogant . Well our chickens have finally come home to roost . And those chickens will be roosting in the championship next season

 

[Shadydan]

Every other team has bad decisions go against them. We’ve had no penalties because we create no opportunities .
We are going to be relegated because we are are not the level required for the premier league. We were given a warning last season, we didn’t learn from it. Too arrogant . Well our chickens have finally come home to roost . And those chickens will be roosting in the championship next season

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6 teams below have created less chances than us this season and yet still have been given more pens than us, what's more you don't only get given pens through chance creation or opportunities anyway.

 

[Matt1882]

We are where we are down to our own making, nothing to do with unconscious bias against us.
As a club ( except for the fans and background staff ) we deserve to be relegated.

The owners , shareholders , players, physios , coaches , have relegated us to the championship next season, not the referees .

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Much like the argument of "would you rather win a cup or finish top 4" the answer is both.
It's both.
We have been way off top half, agreed.
But we have been hurt almost every single game by reffing that IS costing us.

 

[Matt1882]

Sorry the Refs have played a huge part.

How many points have we lost due ref ruling our goals out?

Not being given clear penalties?

The massive disparity between, ref giving opositions goals whilst flooring our defenders with two handed pushes, yet, as per Woolwich, they go down flakes and our goals are ruled off.

Our players getting no protection from refs, yet lesser fouls by Romero gets straight reds... Xavi is kicked about every week, yet doesn't get fouls against him.

Why have had no penalties this season, despite blatant ones not given?

The refs have been biased woeful cunts towards us this season...

But the poor descions is far too consistent.

Oh and West Ham getting away with a blatant penalty against villa... Coz the FA is corrupt and full of Goons, Pool, and Spam fans.

Not to mention to the nothing done to ManC and Liverpool for cheating.

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I think if you watch 90 minutes of every one of our matches, you really see it.
Forget the big calls. Forget the penalties. Refs are sly cunts, they know red card and penalty shouts get massive media attention.
Just watch the flow of the game. Watch how often those crafty bastards blow the whistle against us. The 2 worst games I can recall all season (but by no means isolated ones) were Bournemouth and Liverpool at home.
Every single fucking tackle. Whistle. Every fucking time.
Pushing it to the extreme, away to Fulham, at least twice, the ref gave THEM a free kick when OUR player was fouled.
Ain't nobody talking about this on ref watch on a Monday morning. And it DEFINITELY isn't going both ways.

 

[Rebrov_Likes]

We are where we are down to our own making, nothing to do with unconscious bias against us.
As a club ( except for the fans and background staff ) we deserve to be relegated.

The owners , shareholders , players, physios , coaches , have relegated us to the championship next season, not the referees .

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Yes, refs are not the reason we are where we are. But the situation is a culmination of many factors coalescing together to make this shitstorm. It’s like history. The shooting of Franz Ferdinand both was the cause of WW1 and was also not really the cause of WW1.

 

[Airfixx]

Much like the argument of "would you rather win a cup or finish top 4" the answer is both.
It's both.

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Only stupid people answer that question that way........

 

[Airfixx]

Yes, refs are not the reason we are where we are. But the situation is a culmination of many factors coalescing together to make this shitstorm. It’s like history. The shooting of Franz Ferdinand both was the cause of WW1 and was also not really the cause of WW1.

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Just one less incorrect critical decision may well prove to be the difference between relegation or not.....

Regardless of whether one thinks we are bad enough.

 

[djchotspur]

Sorry the Refs have played a huge part.

How many points have we lost due ref ruling our goals out?

Not being given clear penalties?

The massive disparity between, ref giving opositions goals whilst flooring our defenders with two handed pushes, yet, as per Woolwich, they go down flakes and our goals are ruled off.

Our players getting no protection from refs, yet lesser fouls by Romero gets straight reds... Xavi is kicked about every week, yet doesn't get fouls against him.

Why have had no penalties this season, despite blatant ones not given?

The refs have been biased woeful cunts towards us this season...

But the poor descions is far too consistent.

Oh and West Ham getting away with a blatant penalty against villa... Coz the FA is corrupt and full of Goons, Pool, and Spam fans.

Not to mention to the nothing done to ManC and Liverpool for cheating.

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Even in terms of just second yellows not being given theyve admitted to 2 against us in a game we lost and were 1-0 at the time, might well have got a point and rodri a game we drew 2-2 and likely would have won with Rodri sent off. Thats a 4 point swing just in second yellows pygmol have admitted they got wrong, then factor in the brighton penalty they said they got wrong, a game we drew, thats 2 more points so its 6 points... wed be 4 clear of West ham and thats not even factoring awful decisions like the push in the back against fulham after the Woolwich incident.

 

[djchotspur]

Just one less incorrect critical decision may well prove to be the difference between relegation or not.....

Regardless of whether one thinks we are bad enough.

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Exactly, this stuff clearly matters. Especially when factoring in our injury crisis, everything is just going against us... West ham have 1 injury... their 3rd choice keeper.

 

[Steve007]

We've been on the end of some referee decisions that I struggle to explain. And yes, maybe had some of those gone our way, we might have picked up a few more points.

Ultimately, though, we are the makers of our own downfall.

 

[djchotspur]

We are where we are down to our own making, nothing to do with unconscious bias against us.
As a club ( except for the fans and background staff ) we deserve to be relegated.

The owners , shareholders , players, physios , coaches , have relegated us to the championship next season, not the referees .

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OF course it matters. If you just go on times that pgymol and panels have admitted they got it wrong, Brighton pen, two x second yellows for rodri and brobbey, that is a 5 point minimum swing.... putting us 3 points above West ham with 4 games to go, thats a huge swing in out favour. Plus it would be a 4 goal difference swing to putting us 5 in front....

 

[AberdeenYid]

Why would referees be conspiring against us?

 

[Fazz]

Why would referees be conspiring against us?

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It's not the referees, it's the opposition strikers.

They have been conspiring to consistently score against us for years now. Its all one big conspiracy. Absolutely corrupt b*st*rds.

 

[AberdeenYid]

It's not the referees, it's the opposition strikers.

They have been conspiring to consistently score against us for years now. Its all one big conspiracy. Absolutely corrupt b*st*rds.

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Clever. Probably as close to an answer as I’ll get. There’s just no plausible reason to believe the refs have got together at a Pogmol meeting and come up with a plan to relegate us.

It’s much more likely to be that our players are a bit shite and don’t care.

 

[WillWilliams]

Why would referees be conspiring against us?

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When they show you the referee changing rooms on the stadium tour the refs only get one shower with two large waterfall shower heads so they have to share. Sustainable water usage they told us.
And the shower wall looks suspiciously like 2 way mirror.

It’s said that Donna Cullen and Daniel levy’s matchday offices are just the other side of the ref’s room and shower room.
Designed that way so they can offer them tea and a digestive biscuit at half time.

So take from that what you will.

 

[Silvio Dante]

Why would referees be conspiring against us?

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There is certainly the potential for collective referee behaviour to be influenced by the other big clubs, though not an explicit conspiracy. Complaints from players, managers and clubs through the media all affects them subconsciously.

The classic example being the ridiculous amount of added time that Fergie's Utd used to get. More recently, the way they all started helping Liverpool after they ruled out Diaz's goal against us and Liverpool carried out a media campaign about it.

 

[1882]

We are where we are down to our own making, nothing to do with unconscious bias against us.
As a club ( except for the fans and background staff ) we deserve to be relegated.

The owners , shareholders , players, physios , coaches , have relegated us to the championship next season, not the referees .

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I think both things can be true....
Refs and media tend to favour the winner... We're in a situation (yes of our own making) where we're not winning regularly, and as such are not getting the benefit of the doubt when certain clubs just DO get the rub...
Whether unconscious or blatant!

Every other team has bad decisions go against them. We’ve had no penalties because we create no opportunities .
We are going to be relegated because we are are not the level required for the premier league. We were given a warning last season, we didn’t learn from it. Too arrogant . Well our chickens have finally come home to roost . And those chickens will be roosting in the championship next season

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Wolves and Burnley have had penalties this season ... You telling me they've created more chances regularly?

Plus, who else has an ENTIRE FIRST XI players out at the same time?

There's a combination of poor form from us, but shocking leniency given to opposition players that mean someone like Romero is now out for the season... Numerous red cards that haven't been given for blatant fouls that OUR players HAVE been punished for far less.

EVERYONE IS TO BLAME FOR THIS MESS!