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Player Cristian Romero

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robotdevil said:
LOL, they must have quietly quit at the end of his first season considering their performances last year.
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I don’t really have the inclination to talk about the injury issues, required squad rotation, flawed attempts at constant front foot football, etc. .

You know there were reasons for our league performances for the latter half of last season. If you choose to ignore them, that’s your right.

I’ll always argue that this season has been different. The players just haven’t been trying until RDZ turned up, save the first few Frank matches when they didn’t know he was a fucking out of date lettuce.
 
Think it would be a good moment to cash in on him but with the injury and RDZ probably wanting him to stay I think he remains.

It might come back to bite us but maybe RDZ is the one manager that won't be shit scared of him and will drop him when he's acting the cunt.
 
Romero should be sold and it’s purely because he will never, ever get the benefit of the doubt with prem referees.

He is clearly officiated to a different standard, so when you combine this with our relatively strong CB depth, it’s better for all that we part company.
 
AberdeenYid said:
I don’t really have the inclination to talk about the injury issues, required squad rotation, flawed attempts at constant front foot football, etc. .

You know there were reasons for our league performances for the latter half of last season. If you choose to ignore them, that’s your right.

I’ll always argue that this season has been different. The players just haven’t been trying until RDZ turned up, save the first few Frank matches when they didn’t know he was a fucking out of date lettuce.
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You may not want to talk about them but pretty much all those issues have existed to pretty much the same extent this season.

The idea that Ange leaving was one of the reasons that we've been crap this season is nonsense. It's the fact that we hired an equally bad manager to replace him, didn't sign anyone in January and then made a weird choice in Tudor.

Romero was bang average and erratic last season. He's been equally bad this season whilst also letting us down in his role as captain. He's just not a reliable defender.
 
Chelmsford Spurs said:
If Romero had played vs Villa I think we lose. Not because he's a bad player but because he's a fucking lunatic who doesn't understand the nuances of CONTROLLED aggression, the team understood the assignment at the weekend, he would not have. He'd have smashed into a stupid challenge and left us with 10 men.

Of course this is all my opinion and just speculation as none of that happened but I just feel we are much calmer without him in the side, plus his supposed elite line breaking passes (where it takes him an age to get the ball moving) is now being done by Kinsky to a much more effective level
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I agree with most of this, but we still have to take into account that he's a marked man, others get away with murder compared to Romero. However, saying that, he should have the intelligence to know that, and should play accordingly.
When he's good, he's brilliant, but when he's bad, it ruins the whole team.
I'm ambivalent whether he stays or goes, but we certainly need a new captain
 
robotdevil said:
You may not want to talk about them but pretty much all those issues have existed to pretty much the same extent this season.

The idea that Ange leaving was one of the reasons that we've been crap this season is nonsense. It's the fact that we hired an equally bad manager to replace him, didn't sign anyone in January and then made a weird choice in Tudor.

Romero was bang average and erratic last season. He's been equally bad this season whilst also letting us down in his role as captain. He's just not a reliable defender.
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It was worse last season. One of the reasons it was wasted was Ange. His insistence on playing attacking football in the league, when our defence was basically made up of reserves and competition winners was his undoing.

Frank had it less bad, as his attackers were out, but he didn’t attack anyway. So, less of an issue.

And I would say Romero played well, when he played, last season. Yes, his availability is an issue and that would be a reason I’d sell him. But the talent is there.

And Ange not being here is the main reason we have been crap this season. If he’d still been here, we’d never have had to suffer Frank.
 
robotdevil said:
You may not want to talk about them but pretty much all those issues have existed to pretty much the same extent this season.

The idea that Ange leaving was one of the reasons that we've been crap this season is nonsense. It's the fact that we hired an equally bad manager to replace him, didn't sign anyone in January and then made a weird choice in Tudor.

Romero was bang average and erratic last season. He's been equally bad this season whilst also letting us down in his role as captain. He's just not a reliable defender.
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Wondering how you come to this conclusion?

Romero pretty much only featured in the League up until Match Day 11. At which point we were doing fine in the table and our underlying metrics both for xG and xGA were excellent. Not sure he was personally responsible for some of the bigger errors we had in that early part of the season (Brighton collapse etc..) - but maybe he was? Maybe you could refresh my memory.

Romero played 18 games in the PL; scored 1 goal and 1 assist. Had ZERO Red Cards and 3 yellows. Before he was injured we were doing fine in the League - obviously we completely collapsed when he and most of our defence were out for 3 months.

When he returned to fitness he played mainly in the Europa League where he was named Player of the Tournament and won the MOM in the Final which, of course, was the best moment for Spurs in 40 years.

So... that seems to me to indicate a fairly good season cruelled by injury. Maybe your memory is playing tricks on you?
 
Jenderbazzfass said:
Danso has filled in admirably, I think we all like him as a person, but if Romero is fit he’s in with VDV no question. The two are not in the same league.
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Big Kev is an excellent 3rd choice CB. One of the best I can remember at Spurs. Excellent back up.

But he's not first choice quality. Or at least if he is then we aren't pushing on in the way we say we want too.
 
I'd have Danso.

Romero always has that rush of blood to the head in him, making him unreliable.
Cost us so badly earlier in the season multiple times.

Icing on the cake for me, was our hard man enforcer, our captain, crying like a baby in front of his teammates and fans when he got latest injury, when there was still a match to be played.
Roy Keane he ain't... Fkin premadonna.
 
Phomesy said:
Big Kev is an excellent 3rd choice CB. One of the best I can remember at Spurs. Excellent back up.

But he's not first choice quality. Or at least if he is then we aren't pushing on in the way we say we want too.
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How many games have we won this year with KD in the team vs Romero -

Pretty easy to work out methinks using your method 😀
 
Phomesy said:
Big Kev is an excellent 3rd choice CB. One of the best I can remember at Spurs. Excellent back up.

But he's not first choice quality. Or at least if he is then we aren't pushing on in the way we say we want too.
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Yes - Next year, if we were to retain all three and they could remain fit, we'd have a very nice rotation.

I can't see creating a problem for ourselves here with all the injuries we've had in recent times. We have a decent partnership and a decent third, and people want to see one or two of them off? After we have been so thin at CB in recent years?

Do we think ENIC is going to splash out on two or three decent ones? Be serious. They'll find one who's past it in the bargain bucket somewheres, probably look for another loan player who can't get minutes at a serious club...

Our back four when fit are nearly up to standard, why we would take a hammer to it when we have so much more work to do fixing the squad is crazy
 
manmountainbutters said:
We'll have to agree to disagree. Romero is more likely to get sent off. That is a catastrophic risk we cannot take. I feel he's a bit of a marked man by refs now Romero
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He's been with us five seasons and has 6 reds in all comps. This problem is overstated.

I would argue that his play style of riding that line brings indiscipline in the opponents as well, results in bookings for them at times an intemperate play which is not to their benefit. The edge that Romero has is important. We need players to be more aggressive on balance.

And for a player who has a reputation for being booked every week, he's only got 4 reds in the league for Spurs, despite being a marked man according to most. One could read that as him knowing how to play on a yellow, which is critical for a first choice CB.
 
AberdeenYid said:
One shouldn’t be, no. But I’ve seen on here and elsewhere some talk of the last two matches being proof positive we are better without him. Which is shite. If anyone feels we are better off without him for more widescale reasons, that’s just dandy. But to be quoting the last two matches as full evidence is nuttier than squirrel spunk.
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But why only 2 games?

Why wouldn't you look a run of 28 games since the Leeds game for example?
Cause over this period our record is significantly worse whenever he is starting.

Since then we have won 1 game with him
And 3 without him.

That is substantial period already.

And it is not like he did not play vs weaker teams. He played full game when we lost to Nottingham Forest 0:3 FOR TWO times. He was captaining when we lost to West Ham. As was he when we drew to Burnley.

As I said - for me captain role is more than some nice forward passing and making some strong tackles. It is about being consistent role model. Which he has not been. And results without such captain have been better in that awful run of results. You might not like it. But that is actually and factually backed with avg point-per-game ratio.
 
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