Blimey, I could have sworn we signed him as a defender and used to just throw him up top during desperate times!
God my memory's terrible.
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God my memory's terrible.
Blimey, I could have sworn we signed him as a defender and used to just throw him up top during desperate times!
God my memory's terrible.
I think he just struggled to compete with all the strikers we had so just became a bit more notorious for being a defender, especially after he broke his leg. He was only ever a striker when he played for Ireland IIRC.
Passionately anti-enic because I care passionately about the team.
The losers are dude's like you ...who've backed ENIC instead of the team
LOL, no, I haven't.
And no, you aren't.
Tell you what if you can write me two paragraphs (you, not AI) about the skillset of Romero and the positives and negatives of him being in the team, for the team, maybe ill consider that you actually care about the football somewhere close to how much you care about hating ENIC - which, t is not that much as you literally don't do anything about it.
Why don't you organise a protest - spend a week's worth of time that you do on here on putting your PASSION into something tangible.
You really are a clown...ENIC OUT legend
New improved contract please.
RDZ needs to keep our best players.
He'll be a revelation playing for a manager he respects.
It’s not just his disciplinary record that’s a problem though is it?!
That's still the most of any player in the entire league over that time period.
He also got sent off in a Champions League knockout game vs AC Milan that massively cost us and has made about 7/8 challenges that were veeeeeerry close to red or outright lucky (e.g. pulling Cucurella's hair).
He's not a headhunter but he's often reckless and goes in as hard as anyone in the league. His reputation didn't come out of nowhere - he made it for himself.
A stark stat without context. A few players on three reds that have played significantly less minutes. An example being Mason Holgate who, if he had played the same minutes as Romero and was carded at the same constant, would be on 10.
If also suggest a couple of Romero’s weren’t reds. However, as you say, he’s also got away with maybe half a dozen. Can see his reputation precedes him and it may be too far gone to keep him now.
Spot on - "the right conditions." Translation: the opposition needs to be absolute rubbish. The moment Romero faces anyone with a functioning attack, he's a walking error waiting to be logged. He doesn't make mistakes occasionally - he manufactures them, consistently, reliably, like a factory with ISO certification in catastrophe.
Yes, yes - MOTM against Man United. Incredible. Historic. Against the worst United anyone can remember. Well done, lad. Truly tested. He looked world class against a team from a closing-down discount bin.
But here's the thing that really gets me. This man won a World Cup. Celebrated wildly. Told us all about his mentality, his technique, his leadership. The big moments. The big stage.
So please - someone explain - why, when Argentina needed penalties, did this supreme technician with nerves of steel suddenly discover he had somewhere else to be? He didn't take one. Not against PSG as captain. Not in the biggest tournament either. Just watched. Bravely. From a safe distance.
A man who won't walk to the penalty spot is not a big-game player. He is a big-game spectator wearing a big-game player's shirt. Let the kids take it, apparently. Brilliant captaincy. Tremendous.
Fraud is a strong word. But then again, so is "world class," and we've been hearing that one for four years without much evidence. Sell him. Replace him. Move on. The denial around this club is genuinely more impressive than anything Romero has produced at Spurs.
He obviously knows he's not a skilled shooter like that. There's a lot of reasons to potentially not like Romero, but for me at least, him not stepping up for penalties is not one.
I can honestly not see any positives with Romero. None.
Fair point, but I think it's also fair that saying "he's only been sent off 4 times" isn't really a gotcha when literally no-one's been sent off more.
Maybe there's a world where in a more possession based team and under a manager he trusts, we get the best of Romero, but there's scarcely been a more marked man in the eyes of English refs and he's got a ton of baggage.
I wouldn't be sad to see him go, especially with Vuskovic waiting on the wings.
People bang on about the red cards. Fair enough - most in the league, chronic. But the red cards at least remove him. Worse by far is the goals he donates to the opposition while still on the pitch. Track those and he's probably the single most error-prone defender in the Premier League. That's your world class centre-back.
And then there's this: since he got injured, we've won two and drawn one. No wins since early December with him on the pitch. The team is statistically, visibly better without him. Most bad players are roughly neutral. To be genuinely net negative - that takes a special kind of talent.
But sure. He stood near Messi once. He must be world class.
Most red cards in the league
Probably record errors leading to goals.
Sell him. The bar for his replacement is embarrassingly low.
And then there's this: since he got injured, we've won two and drawn one. No wins since early December with him on the pitch. The team is statistically, visibly better without him. Most bad players are roughly neutral. To be genuinely net negative - that takes a special kind of talent.
But sure. He stood near Messi once. He must be world class.
Most red cards in the league
Probably record errors leading to goals.
Sell him. The bar for his replacement is embarrassingly low.
Four reds is hefty, aye. No getting round that.
I'll give you the reds and the errors, but does not even a small part of you think the 2 wins and a draw in the last 3 games might also have something to do with the new manager?
It's hefty. But when you have a player with his quality and it's four reds in five seasons in the league, I think it is overblown that the reds mean he shouldn't be an important player for us. If you look at them individually, in some cases he is being treated harshly based on a reputation that is much bigger than the facts. I don't want to blame him fully for that, I blame the farcical treatment we receive as a club generally from referees just as much.
There are plenty of valid criticism of Romero but not taking a penalty in the WC or PSG is not one of them. Maybe he is just not good at penalties. It would be stupid and selfish to insist on taking a penalty over players that are better at penalties and want to take them.
I don’t recall any of his sending offs being harsh.
If anything he’s lucky not to have received more.
IIRC there were loads of Twitter posts after his challenge on Casemiro, of cases where other players weren’t sent off that weekend. That’s just poor and inconsistent refereeing, it doesn’t negate the valid sending offs Romero received.
I find his sendings off incredibly irritating and unnecessary, but my biggest issue is he’s just not that great a defender.
His headless chicken escapades up the top of the pitch, leaving the opposition to score, whilst he saunters back like he couldn’t give a shit is what really boils my piss!
He clearly doesn’t want to be here and has been one of the worst captains this club has ever had, so it’s best for all parties that he just leaves in the summer.
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He was there when we played and lost against Sunderland too, wasn't he?I'll give you the reds and the errors, but does not even a small part of you think the 2 wins and a draw in the last 3 games might also have something to do with the new manager?
And as you know, those bounces start from game 1. So yes, with Romero on the pitch, it didn't matter that we had a new manager. Loss anyway.
And for earlier in the season... It's all statistics. Same shit, different manager when he's on the pitch.
For me he is a great offensive defender. He is genuinely very good for a CB at bagging a few goals.
His passing is good, but it's compromised a bit by his dwelling on the ball too long too often.
And then there's all the problems with him in terms of errors, discipline and lack of leadership.
Please sell!
I doubt we will though. Expect we stay up, he has a good WC, and RDZ wants him to stay.
His passing is good, but it's compromised a bit by his dwelling on the ball too long too often.
And then there's all the problems with him in terms of errors, discipline and lack of leadership.
Please sell!
I doubt we will though. Expect we stay up, he has a good WC, and RDZ wants him to stay.
Was lucky vs Cuckerella (even if it was very funny, and is a huge plus point in his favour).