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Management Why are the club not calling out the PGMOL?

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I was at the game and live it looked like both pens. Having watched the highlights I think there's was definitely a pen and ours was probably not as he did get a very faint touch of the ball. I definitely don't think this dodgy ref actually saw him get a faint touch of the ball though.

Also Richys elbow looked dodgy live. Was it a red?
Nah. Didn't even know he was there until his face hit his arm.
 
I was right in front of the Maddison penalty shout, and in my opinion he was looking for it, so not a penalty for me. He's well known for crumpling easily in order to "win" fouls/penalties etc, and I think this predetermines the decisions made by referees. This kind of tactic is actively encouraged, coached and used effectively against us, and simpleton referees by many clubs, as we don't generally do the same in return.
As for the Tel penalty incident; I'd like to know how his brain is wired up, as choosing to clear a loose ball in your own penalty box with a bicycle kick seems like a very odd choice to me.
 
From what I could see, RDZ and crew were losing their sh1t with the referee because the amount of obvious time-wasting, and feigning injury from Leeds was just ridiculous.

Was a rhetorical question.... For one reason or another they couldn't wait to get him in the book.


Compare to the leeway the Woolwich cunt gets every fucking week.
 
Was a rhetorical question.... For one reason or another they couldn't wait to get him in the book.


Compare to the leeway the Woolwich cunt gets every fucking week.
Ha ha, I thought maybe you had forgotten your glasses, which quite often happens to me.
Farteta rants at any official who tries to call him out and just carries on regardless, so they just give up. I absolutely detest him.
 
The club needs (for once at least) go all out crying about that VAR non-penalty call at the end of the Leeds. It might've been the correct decision, but we need to make the noise to match what WH and co are making because of the VARsenal match.

The more they cry the more PGMOL are going to do something to make it up for them. Therefore, we need to bring our voices up, fans call talksport and all shows and just make it known.
 
The club needs (for once at least) go all out crying about that VAR non-penalty call at the end of the Leeds. It might've been the correct decision, but we need to make the noise to match what WH and co are making because of the VARsenal match.

The more they cry the more PGMOL are going to do something to make it up for them. Therefore, we need to bring our voices up, fans call talksport and all shows and just make it known.
The club is not doing anything. Fucking ask the fans to stand with the players, always. FML. Yet they did nothing but keep letting us fucked by PGMOL and refs.

It will all be so easy if I didn't support this club. But even if I do, I still so wish to say this to the club and Vinai scum and Lange, just go fuck yourself.
 
The club needs (for once at least) go all out crying about that VAR non-penalty call at the end of the Leeds. It might've been the correct decision, but we need to make the noise to match what WH and co are making because of the VARsenal match.

The more they cry the more PGMOL are going to do something to make it up for them. Therefore, we need to bring our voices up, fans call talksport and all shows and just make it known.

They should have been crying all season, if other clubs are complaining about subjective calls then we should have been well over it ages ago.

I see De Zerbi is starting to call them out, he'll soon get really frustrated of the refs if he isnt already.
 
Jarred Gillett who didnt give a clear penalty for Spurs and allowed Craig Pawson to do a cursory view and decide the Leeds player touched the ball, while Maddison actually did, will referee Newcastle V West Ham. If I was in charge I would say in a press conf, why is this Aussie doing this match and the fact he has booked 41 Tottenham players in 16 games.
 
This has been absolutely pissing me off all season, theres one thing being completely shafted by referees and the PGMOL because no one can deny we have, but not once has this club ever actually gone on record and officially complained to them because we are more than WELL within our rights to do so!

Off the top of my head this season an abnormal list of shit decisions have gone against us:
  • Bentancur pen for 'holding' against Newcastle
  • Trafford not getting a red for booting Kudus in the chest
  • Goal ruled out against West Ham for a "foul' by VdV for a push
  • Xavi red card against Liverpool (seen others get away with it)
  • Ekitike 2 handed push on Romero - no foul
  • VdV denied clear pen against Bournemouth
  • Muani push on Gabriel - foul
  • VAR ignoring a handball against West Ham when they beat us 2-1
  • Dragusin pushed by Jiminez in the air - no foul
  • Rodri somehow managing to stay on the pitch in the 2-2
  • Sangare high foot foul on Gray that caused him an injury - no red
  • Brobbey injuring 2 of our players, no punishment
  • Two footed tackle from Andre on Bissouma
Don't get me started on our foul to card ratio being the worst in the league by a distance and the fact that we have received a grand total of 0 pens this season.

Some of these are subjective calls that could go either way but when you see other teams and players get away with it then that is grounds to at least start asking questions.

The only time we got anywhere near to complaining was when we 'raised concerns' and politely asked them for clarification of the rules after Dragusin got pushed in the air only for them to blank us and charge Tudor for his comments, what?!

What’s really frustrating is the lack of pushback. Whether it’s Vinai, Lange, or others behind the scenes, it just feels like there’s no real stance being taken. Week after week, decisions go against us, and there’s no strong response, no pressure applied, just silence.

You can see why some fans are starting to question whether the people at the top are actually doing enough to protect the club and are in fact self sabotaging because I can't explain why you'd just sit on your arse and do fuck all and not actually be outraged at the fact that your club is being treated unfairly.

PGMOL are cunts but the higher ups are bigger cunts for not calling this shit out.


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As if we needed more grounds to complain...
 
what frustrates me is some of our own fans seriously think it's because "we never go inside the box, that's why no pens".

  • Solanke, Malick Thiaw shove. Worse than Groceries against Atleti yet nothing.
  • Gray, Brentford 2 players blocked him off. Not stonewall but seen given.
  • Muani, Sunderland, no no he was already going down so clattering him is fine and should be expected.
  • Van De Ven, Utd, they decided the other player did not foul him, but somehow could not see clear contact from the player behind him which fucked VDV up due to his high speed.
  • Maddison, Leeds, cleared very quickly like there was no way they wanted to get to the bottom of that. Ref ignored Maddison's claim, which VAR could verify if only they were not so pressed for time.
  • Richarlison, disgusting amount of fouling by Van Dyke. Richy knows we never get pens so he trys to resist and gets a weak shot off but it's a clear foul. You don't manhandle like that anywhere else and it not be a freekick, but hey Tottenham so...
  • West Ham, very clear handball, arm in unatural position nobody runs with arm up like that. Very obvious.

So thats 7 off top of my head definite shouts that have all been denied. Many of them have been cleared in nanoseconds compared to what happens for other teams.

I don't view any of them apart from the Gray one as being lightweight shouts. The others are certainly very givable pens in my view.
 
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