He’s fucking wank, has a terrible attitude and work rate, can’t stand the man. Doesn’t mean much to be honest, can’t stand the lot of them. I need a new hobby.
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Player Destiny Udogie
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I hate them all.
I don't know if Udogie is sh!t or not and find such comments pretty dumb but I don't think we see a player who looked so promising in his first season to necessarily looking any better today.
In many respects he could be simply a system of wider mediocrity or a player who contributes to the mediocrity. Who knows for certain.
When you look at what Iraola has done at Bornemouth, despite having to sell their best player I am inclined to think that if you find a manager who creates s system that players buy into and are motivated in the right way, talk of individuals becomes less extreme.
I see our biggest failing as having nobody (possibly Maddison apart), who can have one of those days. We used to have 3 or 4, and no team with that number ever finds itself where we are today.
Finally, on Udogie, I think mostly you just want and expect your defenders to defend.
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Such an easy sell too.
We wont though. Arent smart enough for that.
He's a very poor defender, he's poor technically, in possession and he offers nothing going forward.
That is why he's shit.
And you didn't say that initially.
I've said it before in this thread. Like many in the squad, he's not at the required level. He was a punt from Italy who had proven nothing, he was potential and he's simply failed to live up to it. On top of all that I mentioned, he's also injury prone, so he's a double waste of space.
Bang average. Maybe worse than that
But then they all are
But then they all are
Attacking fullback that can’t cross or shoot and has no pace . Another player that is rated when he doesn’t play .
Every club, of pretty much any size must take a punt, now and then.
We did it wirh Alli. Less so Bale, as he was already known to be a talent of some magnitude.
I do agree, in the same but different way, to Solanke in that Udogie is far too brittle, and that might reduce his confidence in himself but also hard to define what he does so well.
Serious discussions are needed on a number of the squad.
He's total shit and it's so obvious that... it took you a whole year before you clocked it?
He isnt that good, he's always injured and we could move him on for a decent enough fee to Serie A. So i fully expect him to be here next season.
He's total shit and it's so obvious that... it took you a whole year before you clocked it?
What's your point? Are we expected to judge a player immediately? Don't be stupid.
It takes time to assess a player's quality. I think 12 - 18 months is generally enough time to make an assessment.
My point is that you can't claim something as incredibly obvious and at the same time also mention that it took you 12 months to see it.
And also you're just flat out wrong as a bonus.
Udogie's only real problem, and it's a major one, is that he can't stay fit for more than a handful of games. As it is, he barely gets close to being up to full speed, let alone to a point where he can develop and improve.
His starting point, ie the first 12 months more or less, was a decent level. Unfortunately from there he's become a bit of a crock, and also been subjected to some utterly woeful coaching.
I am not wrong though, you are. His only real problem is staying fit? That is untrue. He is objectively a poor player. He's a poor defender, he makes mistakes, he doesn't track runners, he is poor in possession, he is completely ineffective going forwards, he isn't good technically. His touch, his passing, his crossing, none of it is any good.
In fact, please tell me what he is good at.
I think players only have to breathe these days for some numpty to rate them.
OK, and why did it take you 12 months to make your mind up then?
Or was it a case of you actually did rate him until year two when the injuries really kicked in and his form (alongside the whole team under Ange) took a nosedive? Both of which are circumstantial issues rather than anything to do with his ability.
Surely all of those criticisms should have been evident enough in hist first 12 games to convince you, why wait 12 months?