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I think Tel can do a good enough job on the left, he's extremely flawed but for the most part he's a threat and he can produce the odd spark.
I get your idea but we need width at the end of the day, every team plays with width it's how you stretch the opposition and you need players holding their positions on the touchline.
On the right though we can change and I wouldn't be putting any of Gray, Sarr Bergvall out there, all they're going to do is come in field and narrow the space because that's what their inclined to do. however Spence or Souza I would prefer over Muani who is utterly useless.
Amazing to see some people laying the ground work to have a pop at De Zerbi already.
If we stay up it will only be because of him. Let's not forget where we were when he came in, we were dead and buried. We were getting battered every week.
The games we've dropped points in have all been by one goal, we are in games, we are the protaganists now, imposing on teams rather than being passive and shit.
But he can't miraculously turn Richarlison, Muani and Tel into competent attackers.
Particuarly when we have zero creative midfielders fit.
To be honest it will be a miracle if he keeps us up.
If we stay up it will only be because of him. Let's not forget where we were when he came in, we were dead and buried. We were getting battered every week.
The games we've dropped points in have all been by one goal, we are in games, we are the protaganists now, imposing on teams rather than being passive and shit.
But he can't miraculously turn Richarlison, Muani and Tel into competent attackers.
Particuarly when we have zero creative midfielders fit.
To be honest it will be a miracle if he keeps us up.
Elite- maybe.
The rest, yes.
First defeat in five games, and to the filth, as usual.
This is why I have been reserving my judgment of him...things could easily go either way...I'm waiting 'til Xmas to see what happens..
I can understand the questioning of Muani, but RDZ is just trying to coax something, anything out of him. It's not working yes, but I can understand why when there is no alternative. He's an established player that should on paper be able to contribute.
I do think he needs to bite the bullet though and just drop him altogether on Sunday. Zero point playing him, it's like playing with ten men.
I don't know what the alternative is however. If Solanke is back, maybe play Richie left, Tel on the right, Solanke in the middle.
The reality is injuries have forced him to play Muani. All he can do is keep trying to coax a performance out of him.
I do think he needs to bite the bullet though and just drop him altogether on Sunday. Zero point playing him, it's like playing with ten men.
I don't know what the alternative is however. If Solanke is back, maybe play Richie left, Tel on the right, Solanke in the middle.
The reality is injuries have forced him to play Muani. All he can do is keep trying to coax a performance out of him.
RKM is a striker that is moonlighting as an inside forward. He's not a "winger" in any sense.
I'd have him at ST for Sunday, with Richy at LF and Tel at RF. The only thing preventing this formation from happening earlier was Tel not having played the RF position before, but, he did that this past game. Richarlison is better as a wide forward for us anyways- time to give it a go I say.
It was two evenly matched sides except Chelsea had Palmer and Enzo
It's not as simple as that.
Richy is more miss than hit on the left. It's extremely risky putting a player who is quite frankly stinking the place out, and is a lightweight lazy prick, as our main striker for such a must win game (Muani). Against a physical Everton side, Muani could very easily and most likely will be, completely swallowed up and rendered anonymous, and as a result the whole team could struggle.
At least Richy puts himself about a bit, as shit as he is. Muani is just a nothing player.
I'd only move Richie out wide for Solanke, not for Muani. Muani would be a ridiculously huge gamble to put at 9 when he is playing so terribly.
He’s fair game to be popped at. For what it’s worth, I think he’s doing a great job overall and I’m very pleased we have our destiny in our hands. Wasn’t that confident a few weeks back.
Nevertheless, this doesn’t preclude him from criticism. He’s playing a guy, in Muani, who is low in confidence, in shite form and could not give a fuck. As manager, he needs to unfuck Mauni’s head, or come up with a solution that doesn’t involve the player.
His apparent blind spot on this matter aside, he deserves plenty of praise for everything else he’s doing.
So you would rather De Zerbi continues with Muani and Tel because that's his front three options and that's us set up perfectly well?
I'm not suggesting those midfield players that you mention can be turned into wingers, my suggestion is as our so called wingers are so shit, it can't be any worse to stack the MF and have players drifting wide when the situation requires it.
So no Sarr/Gray/Bergvall are not wingers, but they're still probably as capable as our non-wingers Tel and Muani, and it also gives us the option to stack the midfield with ;people who can anticipate the play, and/or tackle when out of possession.
The crossing was absolute dogshit, over all Tel and Muani have a tiny amount of assists this season in the PL.
This has turned a tad Postecoglou'ish because RDZ is setting the team up without having the players who are capable. ie good wide attacking players.
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Muani is crap but at least if he's on the bench we have someone to bring on late in the game. Yesterday we had nobody.
Yeah, I'm clutching.
We deserve to go down. Our "supporters" are fucking lunatics.
You can have Frank - I'm sticking with guy who has managed to turn our metrics around in 5 weeks from the absolute dogshit we've had to endure this season. The only game under De Zerbi where we haven't won the underlying metrics was the Sunderland game where Gray and Bergvall started.
Gray, Bergvall and Sarr are NOT RWF's. For all their many faults Tel and Muani are capable of going past a player and getting a ball in even if half the time it's rubbish. That is why they start - not because of their individual mertis but their importance in the system. The system which is working.
Having said that I'd go with Sarr over Muani on Sunday. It's the closest we can get to filling that position in the structure.
Muani for a worldie and a hattrick on Sunday.
Oh can you imagine if he scores the winner on Sunday?!
Someone so inept and yet saves us.
Bring it on!
I get what you're saying also. I just saw that what we we're doing vs Chelsea was passing the ball to either Muani or Tel, but neither of them are getting any sort of decent ball into a dangerous area, I mean I could stand on the wing and fuck up every opportunity if it's all about width and no skill.
I haven't mentioned Frank and certainly haven't said he's a better manager for us than De Zerbi, so I have no idea where you plucked that strawman from?
Yes I said in my last response to you that Bergvall, Gray, and Sarr, are not wingers, so again, I don't know why you're arguing as if I said that they were.
For another attempt at trying to help you to understand, I was talking about the possibility of a 4 5 1 formation being more suited to the players that we have available, and a MF player can drift wide if it's only to create space and pull the defence, also the FBs can provide width.
I don't know what I've posted that you're arguing about?