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Player João Palhinha

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TeamSpirit™ said:
If he’s one of the best out there, how comes there isn’t a queue full of Europes best fighting for his signature?

He could teach them how to tackle I guess (because nobody else can!), but he won’t teach them how to pass and move.

Thank you for the set pieces, but we need to move on if we’re going to progress.

We actively built the team in his style, he was the star of it - and look what happened.

And David’s and Naybet were genuinely at the top of the game (as was Llorente) .
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It's just my opinion, you don't have to agree with me but I think he'll be a handy player and influence for a couple of years.

And none of Naybet, David's or Llorente were at the top of the game during their time with us, they were all past their best.
It could be argued that's not the case with JP and while he may not have reached their heights, he's far from a bad player to keep around for a couple of years.
 
LeeMcl said:
Eriksen, curious comparison, and made me look it up via our AI overlords.

Statistically, Christian Eriksen was an elite playmaker during his peak years at Tottenham Hotspur (2013–2020), ranking alongside the very best creators in Europe's top five leagues based on data. [1, 2]
Creative Numbers (Chances Created & Assists)
  • Chance Creation: From his debut in September 2013 until his departure in January 2020, Eriksen created 571 chances in the Premier League—more than any other player, surpassing both Eden Hazard and Kevin De Bruyne in that span.
  • Assists: He registered 62 assists in 226 Premier League appearances for Spurs, making him the most effective assister in the league.
  • Big Chances: He produced 73 big chances, second only to Kevin De Bruyne. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Goals & Threat
  • He directly contributed to 113 goals for Tottenham (51 goals, 62 assists) in the league.
  • He was a deadly long-range threat, scoring 23 goals from outside the box during his time in London, which led the league over that period. [1, 2]
Work Rate & Availability
  • Under Mauricio Pochettino, he was highly valued for his positional intelligence and unrelenting stamina, often covering the most distance of any player on the pitch while serving as the team's primary press-initiator.
  • He boasted incredible durability, consistently playing well over 3,000 minutes per season. [1, 2, 3]
Was He Elite?
Yes. Based on expected assists (xA), chances created, and total goal involvement, the statistical consensus confirms Eriksen was an elite, world-class midfielder. While he lacked the explosive dribbling of Hazard or the sheer physical dominance of De Bruyne, his unmatched vision, set-piece delivery, and passing accuracy made him the creative engine behind Spurs' sustained top-four finishes and run to the Champions League final
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"AI" = scroll straight past and didn't bother to read.
 
Been a fan of his all season, it's not often you come across a guy with his mentality, he is the sort of guy that RDZ could use to raise the intensity permanently to stamp out spursiness, would love if Madison, Kulu and Simons could stay fit, if not with the right durable players JP would be a massive addition.
He is a Steve Bruce kind character, Bruce never played for England, yet he was the foundation on which Fergie built his first league winning team. His game was simple built on bravery, consistency, humility and never giving up. Singing Palhinha is a no brainer.
 
one of the mentality monsters that got us over the line - and some of you want to get rid?

how can we build a team culture if we do that?

id rather not start from literally square 1 again
 
CJJ said:
No, brennan was a poor player that scored goals. Similar to Eriksen (certainly in his last season) who would often have a bad game for us, score a goal, and then it would be seen as having "played well". Palhinha is similar to Hojbjerg who suffered with a lack of quality around him and blamed for not being good enough to mask that
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Eriksen was a poor player while Hojbjerg just suffered from a lack of quality around him.

Douse your head with some cold water, you've short circuited.

:mourshock:
 
MemphisWill said:
Eriksen was a poor player while Hojbjerg just suffered from a lack of quality around him.

Douse your head with some cold water, you've short circuited.

:mourshock:
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Yes, because that's what I said

Bored Come On GIF
 
Airfixx said:
While we're being "honest".....

How many people here have said he should be a regular starter for us anyway?



And more "honesty"..... You've refused to acknowledge his upside all season and repeatedly characterised him as the reason we are shit.
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I admit I was fuming when I heard we were going for him. Why? Because last season even with the more front-foot Postecoglou, we struggled to move the ball in midfield.

We’re stocked full of midfield players that can run around, kick and press opponents and struggle to pass it. The Europa final showed this.

As soon as Frank signed him I knew what to expect. It’s like people can’t square the circle between us playing god awful stuff all year, trying to win matches through set pieces and Palhinha’s influence on that style of play.

I’m happy he contributed to keep us up. Yet I firmly believe that situation would have never come about if we decided to sign some ball progressing CM’s instead.

Bentancur is utterly average at it, but he’s still our best passing CM - we picked up 6 points in the 12 games he missed. It matters massively.
 
CJJ said:
"certainly in his last season". "would often have a bad game for us"

He definitely wasn't starved of quality around him, that's for sure, and spent his last 12 months at the club half-arsing it
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"Certainly in his last season" underlines that you feel he was a poor player, certainly, in his last season, but also implies that you think he was a poor player before. Otherwise its a superfluous and misleading use of language, when you could have just said "in his last season".

In any event, it was certainly the beginning of his career descent, but I wouldn't say he was poor.
 
MemphisWill said:
"Certainly in his last season" underlines that you feel he was a poor player, certainly, in his last season, but also implies that you think he was a poor player before. Otherwise its a superfluous and misleading use of language, when you could have just said "in his last season".

In any event, it was certainly the beginning of his career descent, but I wouldn't say he was poor.
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for fucks sakes man - why are you trying to turn a simple statement into a metaphor. The 'certainly' was covering the overlap of 2019 where most of the squad was playing off-form leading up to the summer.

You're the only one who has hallucinated the word poor and are obsessing over it
 
He's become a cult hero within just 1 season.

He is the epitome of what football should be about.

Thanks for saving us, thanks for the commitment.

Enjoy home time in Portugal at Sporting.

Be nice if our worlds collide in Europe in a couple of seasons.

Welcome anytime.

:paulinhaswoon:
 
I’m not gutted at all he prefers Sporting. Still thinks Alex Scott is the better option + Gray and Bergvall could still become elite midfielders.

I still remember how Gray-Bergvall outplayed Dortmund in January, it was a sign for the future
 
CJJ said:
for fucks sakes man - why are you trying to turn a simple statement into a metaphor. The 'certainly' was covering the overlap of 2019 where most of the squad was playing off-form leading up to the summer.

You're the only one who has hallucinated the word poor and are obsessing over it
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You're right. My new season resolution is to get into fewer of these silly pedantic arguments.

Would help if you lot would stop being wrong all the fucking time, tho.

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