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Management Roberto De Zerbi

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If some of the injured players are available next season and along with, additional signings we could do well.
Once he can get his style down instead of firefighting, there is every chance of 6th-8th.
Look at utd, finished 16th last season and were mid table before Carrick came in.
Good management and playing people in correct position has got them 3rd.
So I think its very possible to get back our old top six position quickly if, the owners follow through on their part.
6th -8th…..higher than that.
 
Next year i think the league will be as competitive as ever however those saddled with Europe will suffer for it. Arguably all the top teams are imperfect and trying to rebuild themselves apart from goons but I think even they could get complacent and have their luck turn away from them.

Long story short I think RDZ will get the 2 or 3 top player he wants and we will mix it with the best. Certainly make a big jump above all teams upto Bournemouth so thats 6th off the bat.
Not sure about that. Reckon Coventry, Hull and Ipswich go down with no fight tbh.
None of them have the money to do what the likes of Sunderland and Forest did and none of their coaches has the experience of Farke at coming up and trying to stay there.
My guess is relegation is wrapped up by late March.
 
Not sure about that. Reckon Coventry, Hull and Ipswich go down with no fight tbh.
None of them have the money to do what the likes of Sunderland and Forest did and none of their coaches has the experience of Farke at coming up and trying to stay there.
My guess is relegation is wrapped up by late March.

I agree with the thoughts on newly promoted 3 teams.
Aside from that I think you can throw a blanket over the next 10 teams in the pl next season and a few of them are now in Europe which will hamper them.
What is was saying was that I strongly believe we will leapfrog all those at that straight away has us up around 7th. Nobody knows how the other so called 'big' clubs will fare next season. A few have new managers which are far from certain to be successful and so I think we can get amoungst it with 1 game per week.
 
Worth pointing out that, even though we only won the 3rd game, RDZ is unbeaten at home.

But for a 95th minute equaliser and a dodgy penalty decision, it could *should have been 3 wins from 3, too.
With a knackered, bare bones squad.
 
In all honesty, at the time Tudor was sacked, did anyone see where we were getting 3 wins and 2 draws from? No chance. We were doomed, De Zerbi deserves all the credit for that. To get 11 points out of a squad this lacking in pace and attacking ability was a miracle.

Sunderland just finished 7th after getting promoted. Of course a European finish next season is perfectly achievable. Things can turn around very quickly, it’s only losers like Thomas Frank who think otherwise. The middle pack of the league are all a muchness, that’s why there were still so many teams in the hunt for Europe so late on.
RDZ had got maximum out of this squad in the 7 games, i don't doubt that, but let's not pretend it was great, we beat Wolves, Villa who were happy to chuck the game and Everton who were already on holiday. The squad is poor and needs major upgrades, especially in attack.

The leagues not great, with 5 quality additions we can fly up, but it needs to be at least 5 quality additions, if we go into next season with the shit we've had up front the last few months we got no chance. Pinning hopes on players like Tel is going to get us nowhere.

Postecoglou is a major reason why we are shit, and he was here at least a year too long, but we do have a quality issue at spurs, a lot of this squad are crap and needs to be upgraded. People singing Bentancur's praises again, this guy wouldn't get anywhere near anyone in the top 5s midfields, so if we want to be getting in that mix we need better it's as simple as that, and Bentancur is one of our so called 'better' players! VDV on his day is class, Maddison on his day is class, Kulu on his day (not been for a while now tho) is class. Other than that its either average or poor players.

At the bare minimum need a whole new attack, a deep lying playmaker and a LB. That's the bare minimum of what we need.
 
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RDZ had got maximum out of this squad in the 7 games, i don't doubt that, but let's not pretend it was great, we beat Wolves, Villa who were happy to chuck the game and Everton who were already on holiday. The squad is poor and needs major upgrades, especially in attack.

The leagues not great, with 5 quality additions we can fly up, but it needs to be at least 5 quality additions, if we go into next season with the shit we've had up front the last few months we got no chance. Pinning hopes on players like Tel is going to get us nowhere.

Postecoglou is a major reason why we are shit, and he was here at least a year too long, but we do have a quality issue at spurs, a lot of this squad are crap and needs to be upgraded. People singing Bentancur's praises again, this guy wouldn't get anywhere near anyone in the top 5s midfields, so if we want to be getting in that mix we need better it's as simple as that, and Bentancur is one of our so called 'better' players! VDV on his day is class, Maddison on his day is class, Kulu on his day (not been for a while now tho) is class. Other than that its either average or poor players.

At the bare minimum need a whole new attack, a deep lying playmaker and a LB. That's the bare minimum of what we need.

Club couldn't buy a win before De Zerbi turned up, even if you're being cynical and say Villa and Everton threw their games we lost against far worse teams like West Ham and Burnley and didn't win a match in 4 months, he deserves a lot of credit.
 
If some of the injured players are available next season and along with, additional signings we could do well.
Once he can get his style down instead of firefighting, there is every chance of 6th-8th.
Look at utd, finished 16th last season and were mid table before Carrick came in.
Good management and playing people in correct position has got them 3rd.
So I think its very possible to get back our old top six position quickly if, the owners follow through on their part.
United went out and got 3 marquee signings for attack! that's what we need to do. They already had Bruno who is borderline world class.

They also sorted their keeper out and now have one who actually looks decent and won't cost them points week in week out.
 
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Club couldn't buy a win before De Zerbi turned up, even if you're being cynical and say Villa and Everton threw their games we lost against far worse teams like West Ham and Burnley and didn't win a match in 4 months, he deserves a lot of credit.

Mental isn't it. We couldn't beat anyone before De Zerbi came in, we win 3 games out of 7, and unlucky not to have won more, and now it's, well we only beat this and that team, they are nothing special.

I mean, where the fuck have they been all season? We couldn't win a game for love or money, and now some fans are belittling our victories.
 
Mental isn't it. We couldn't beat anyone before De Zerbi came in, we win 3 games out of 7, and unlucky not to have won more, and now it's, well we only beat this and that team, they are nothing special.

I mean, where the fuck have they been all season? We couldn't win a game for love or money, and now some fans are belittling our victories.

Yeah it's a bit silly, even if you don't take much from the wins the underlying numbers tell you he was getting the absolute max out of the squad.
 
Worth pointing out that, even though we only won the 3rd game, RDZ is unbeaten at home.

But for a 95th minute equaliser and a dodgy penalty decision, it could *should have been 3 wins from 3, too.
With a knackered, bare bones squad.

Mental isn't it. We couldn't beat anyone before De Zerbi came in, we win 3 games out of 7, and unlucky not to have won more, and now it's, well we only beat this and that team, they are nothing special.

I mean, where the fuck have they been all season? We couldn't win a game for love or money, and now some fans are belittling our victories.
I "showed ignored content" and both posters came up with great posts.
 
Some people even said Sherwood with a straight face :mourcry:

People (myself included) looked down on him after years of Redknapp and an exciting manager in AVB, but he's an important figure in that period of Tottenham for the work he did behind the seasons (especially with the young players, loans, championing them over that period), and he was absolutely, unequivocally, deserving of a lot more respect that his prattish personality requested.
 
Mental isn't it. We couldn't beat anyone before De Zerbi came in, we win 3 games out of 7, and unlucky not to have won more, and now it's, well we only beat this and that team, they are nothing special.

I mean, where the fuck have they been all season? We couldn't win a game for love or money, and now some fans are belittling our victories.
It's not belittling anything, its being a realist. This squad is shit, its finished 17th two seasons on the bounce, that's not a blip. RDZ might be a very good manager but he's not a miracle worker, you can only do so much with shit footballers. Even if Kulu comes back on top form, the front 3 is still well below par, we don't have one forward at the club that anyone in the top 5 would take! thats a big problem.

Last season you can put down to having the worst 'manager' ever. This season, granted we've been without our two best players for the entire season, that still doesn't justify finishing 17th and being in a relegation scrap till the final whistle, that's a serious quality issue in the squad.

At the very least it needs 5 new first 11 players bought this summer.
 
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