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Has turned out better than we all expected, but all I'm seeing is negative bullshit. We all accepted this would be a rebuilding year. We all accepted a 6-7th place finish. We didn't expect the rise of Kane, Mason and the continued development of Bentaleb. We didn't expect Rose to play like an international. We didn't expect Pritchard to kill it on loan, nor did we expect Spurs to buy one of the brightest midfield prospects in England. No one saw us destroying Chelsea 5-3. Spurs have the youngest squad in the prem, and, despite his shortcomings, a bright young manager that will only continue to grow with the squad.

All I ask is that you consider these things and get the hell over yourselves. We expected Spurs to be where they were in the table, but (a few games aside) nobody expected it to look this good going forward.
 
If we don't win every game 4-0 we are shit and all our players are shit and the future looks bleak.
No more sensible posts please mate.

I hope the doom and gloom merchants on the Burnley thread have had their shoelaces, belts and ties hidden from them.
 
Not going to say the whole argument over again but for me, it hasnt been a very good season.
Its been 50-50 with decent and diabolical, with some one or two excellent performances thrown in too..I had a clearer vision of what Poch wanted earlier in the season. Now Im just confused.

In a nutshell, for me the positives are:
Fitness
Kane
Rose
Beating arse and Chelsea with actual brilliant football
Being able to go the distance in games
Academy being used
Lloris

Negatives:
Rotation and isolation of a major chunk of the squad..
..which caused our cup capitulation within two days
(we all said that was the most important month of our season. Well we failed)
Chadli´s form nosediving
Eriksen´s form nosediving
Lamela
Townsend
Soldado
Vertonghen
Paulinho
Central Midfield losing the plot and not being addressed
The back line bar Rose and Lloris
Oddball subs
The sudden abandonment of our pressing game
The lack of a leader
Naming three captains and dropping two of them from the entire squad
Dropping Dembele
Dropping Stambouli
Dropping Capoue
And playing Paulinho ahead of them
Lack of tactical flexibility
Playing a system with players that cannot play it well
Lack of heart
Lack of effort
On course to finish worse off than what AVB and Tim got last year

Forgive me for not jumping through hoops about this season
 
sammyspurs said:
Not going to say the whole argument over again but for me, it hasnt been a very good season.
Its been 50-50 with decent and diabolical, with some one or two excellent performances thrown in too..I had a clearer vision of what Poch wanted earlier in the season. Now Im just confused.

In a nutshell, for me the positives are:
Fitness
Kane
Rose
Beating arse and Chelsea with actual brilliant football
Being able to go the distance in games
Academy being used
Lloris

Negatives:
Rotation and isolation of a major chunk of the squad..
..which caused our cup capitulation within two days
(we all said that was the most important month of our season. Well we failed)
Chadli´s form nosediving
Eriksen´s form nosediving
Lamela
Townsend
Soldado
Vertonghen
Paulinho
Central Midfield losing the plot and not being addressed
The back line bar Rose and Lloris
Oddball subs
The sudden abandonment of our pressing game
The lack of a leader
Naming three captains and dropping two of them from the entire squad
Dropping Dembele
Dropping Stambouli
Dropping Capoue
And playing Paulinho ahead of them
Lack of tactical flexibility
Playing a system with players that cannot play it well
Lack of heart
Lack of effort
On course to finish worse off than what AVB and Tim got last year

Forgive me for not jumping through hoops about this season
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Would add heart and effort to positives, otherwise I agree
 
Another positive, fans starting to realise we aren't top four quality and dropping their ridiculously high standards. Past few years have been abysmal at The Lane, simply because fans and their high standards after getting to the quarter finals of the Champions League years ago. The squad is completely different and we've had three managers leave since then.

The feel good factor has come back this year, no doubt because of a likeable manager for once and the fact our team has a load of youngsters in there. Not to mention the fact we obliterated Chelsea, dominated Woolwich and got to a cup final.

Do I think this seasons been good? I think it's been far from terrible. I think we're performing where we are supposed to in the league. All the teams above us are better than us. Liverpool slightly edge it because they have a manager who has implemented his style on his team for 3 years now. It'll be interesting to see where we are in 3 years when Poch is HOPEFULLY given his own players.
 
sammyspurs said:
Not going to say the whole argument over again but for me, it hasnt been a very good season.
Its been 50-50 with decent and diabolical, with some one or two excellent performances thrown in too..I had a clearer vision of what Poch wanted earlier in the season. Now Im just confused.

In a nutshell, for me the positives are:
Fitness
Kane
Rose
Beating arse and Chelsea with actual brilliant football
Being able to go the distance in games
Academy being used
Lloris

Negatives:
Rotation and isolation of a major chunk of the squad..
..which caused our cup capitulation within two days
(we all said that was the most important month of our season. Well we failed)
Chadli´s form nosediving
Eriksen´s form nosediving
Lamela
Townsend
Soldado
Vertonghen
Paulinho
Central Midfield losing the plot and not being addressed
The back line bar Rose and Lloris
Oddball subs
The sudden abandonment of our pressing game
The lack of a leader
Naming three captains and dropping two of them from the entire squad
Dropping Dembele
Dropping Stambouli
Dropping Capoue
And playing Paulinho ahead of them
Lack of tactical flexibility
Playing a system with players that cannot play it well
Lack of heart
Lack of effort
On course to finish worse off than what AVB and Tim got last year

Forgive me for not jumping through hoops about this season
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To be fair a lot of the negatives relate to one thing, squad depth...or more precisely a squad that buys into what Pochettino expects of them. Unlike most other businesses, you can't immediately turf out useless cunts from your team and then get in people that suit straight away. You only have two windows of opportunity available, and one of those is usually a bust as all you can buy is the useless cunts that have been turfed out from other teams.
 
sammyspurs said:
Its funny how apologists always say this when they finally realise thats the case.

When other people pointed that out months ago, they were told to "believe" and "stop being negative"
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This has been the case since 2012 though (not being good enough). It's just now we have some reason to actually be positive. Youngsters coming through and a likeable manager. The fact he's managed to get this squad of players to even fight for fourth and manage to get them joint fifth at the moment is nothing short of miraculous. That's a positive in itself.

What's the fun in being negative at every little detail. We're fans, not critics.
 
ArtyB said:
To be fair a lot of the negatives relate to one thing, squad depth...or more precisely a squad that buys into what Pochettino expects of them. Unlike most other businesses, you can't immediately turf out useless cunts from your team and then get in people that suit straight away. You only have two windows of opportunity available, and one of those is usually a bust as all you can buy is the useless cunts that have been turfed out from other teams.
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This season is all about the transfer window for me (you can call it next season if you want to be pedantic). Can we get rid of 10 or so players, and bring in 3-4 quality players? It is a big ask. But it is all down to Levy, Baldini, Mitchell and the black box. nothing Poch can really do about it
 
ArtyB said:
To be fair a lot of the negatives relate to one thing, squad depth...or more precisely a squad that buys into what Pochettino expects of them. Unlike most other businesses, you can't immediately turf out useless cunts from your team and then get in people that suit straight away. You only have two windows of opportunity available, and one of those is usually a bust as all you can buy is the useless cunts that have been turfed out from other teams.
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He is playing Paulinho ahead of Dembele, Capoue and Stambouli...sorry, wont wash
 
Totti said:
This has been the case since 2012 though (not being good enough). It's just now we have some reason to actually be positive. Youngsters coming through and a likeable manager. The fact he's managed to get this squad of players to even fight for fourth and manage to get them joint fifth at the moment is nothing short of miraculous. That's a positive in itself.

What's the fun in being negative at every little detail. We're fans, not critics.
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I listed some positives....you ignored them
 
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