Apart from the Soldado assist. I agree Soldado needs service but we just physically can't sit back and pass through teams, WBA being a prime example, Eriksen and Lamela on the pitch two very good passers of the ball and they couldn't split a defence, at the level the PL Is at these days it's difficult once a team is settled at the back and you need someone who can unsettle by either making runs behind the defence or running at them. I know Android hasn't got a lethal streak yet, he desperately needs to work on that distribution but he does make it difficult for other sides and offers something different from passing it in front of them AVB style ee.
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And he has been shit recently!
If our central midfield got the ball forward faster so that we could get the balls to the strikers in time, we'd be in better shape. We haven't scored a single goal from a cross. We have scored several goals, including against set defences from throughballs and balls over the top.
A quicker tempo and multiple runners into the box will solve a lot of the issues seen in the last two games. Cutting out the poor marking and unforced errors will fix much of the trouble we had against Liverpool. Both of those things what we already knew. It's just a matter of execution.
I'd say WBA and Liverpool are the only set defences we've played so far this year and we've struggled. We do need to move the ball quicker and have willing runners though, Chadli does seem to be getting into the box more and more and that can only be a good thing. Crossing and balance wise it will help when Walker is back, would give Lamela/Townsend more space to cut inside and draw markers away. It's been an issue for us since Modric left though how to break down teams who sit back, other than give it to Bale. Agree though our passing needs to be far quicker.
You mean shit shot number 48 that was going wide until Soldado reacted...
http://www.tottenhamjournal.co.uk/t..._my_role_in_pochettino_s_new_system_1_3784968
Andros Townsend
By Ben Pearce, Tottenham correspondentFriday, September 26, 2014
12:00 PM
Andros Townsend is convinced he can be a hit in Mauricio Pochettino’s new system but says he needs time to reach top form and give the head coach what he is looking for.
After a strong start to last season for club and country, Townsend’s campaign was disrupted by injuries – the last of which ruled him out of the World Cup.
The winger has found himself in Spurs’ second-string side so far this campaign, with his three starts coming in the Europa League and Capital One Cup, alongside two substitute appearances in the Premier League.
Townsend has been playing on the right flank in Pochettino’s 4-2-3-1 system – and his role seems very similar to how Andre Villas-Boas set his team up, with the two wide men coming inside.
However, the 23-year-old says there are important differences and he is having to adapt his game to suit the new tactics.
“I prefer being on the right side,” said Townsend. “The manager’s formation is new to me but I’m learning. We’ve had some chats about how he wants me to play and I’m trying to implement that when I go out on the field. It’s going to take time but I know I can fit into this formation.”
Asked how Pochettino’s system differs from Villas-Boas’, the winger replied: “He likes his players to come inside, to get through on goal more as opposed to staying wide and taking on the player one v one.
“It’s definitely something I’ve got to learn but I’m young enough and I’m hoping to learn so hopefully I can get there.
“I think I’m improving in every game. Of course I’m not where I want to be at the moment but I’m getting games under my belt. I’m slowly getting my fitness better and with every game I’m improving.
“Hopefully, with a few more games in the Europa League and the cup games, I might be ready to challenge for a Premier League spot.”
Townsend came through the youth ranks at Tottenham and was loaned to nine other clubs before making his breakthrough at Spurs.
Another product of the Lilywhites’ youth system, Ryan Mason, has also had to bide his time before announcing himself at White Hart Lane this week.
Mason made his Tottenham debut as a 17-year-old in November 2008 but has played just four games for the Lilywhites since then, having loan spells at Yeovil, Doncaster, Millwall, French club Lorient and Swindon in the meantime.
Now 23 years old, the midfielder impressed Pochettino in pre-season. And, although an injury ruined his chance to stay in the first-team squad at the start of the campaign, he came off the bench in Wednesday’s Capital One Cup tie against Nottingham Forest and promptly hit a 30-yard equaliser – his first goal for the club - as Spurs came from behind to win 3-1.
Townsend said: “It’s only when Ryan Mason came on that we opened them up. I think he deserved the goal and his performance and hopefully now he can be a big player for us.
“Everyone knows Ryan’s a talented player, he’s just had some unfortunate injuries. I think he was our best player in pre-season and then he got injured - but now he’s back to full fitness and everyone saw how good he is.
“Everyone nowadays knows they’ve got to be patient and go out on loan and bide their time – and now I think he’s got a manager here who believes in his ability, and hopefully his talent will shine through.”
Tottenham are through to the last 16 of the League Cup – which was their last trophy in 2008 – and they have been given a home draw against Brighton.
“We’ve got a big squad, we’ve got a young squad,” said Townsend. “I think the manager made 11 changes and you saw we had international players in the squad, so we’ve got strength in depth and hopefully the ‘second team’ that the manager puts out can go far in this competition.
“It’s another home draw, it’s another Championship side. We can’t take anything for granted. Nottingham Forest was a home draw and a Championship side and they took us all the way so we know it’s going to be another difficult game, but one we’re looking forward to.”
Tottenham now turn their attention to tomorrow’s north London derby against Woolwich at the Emirates, a fixture they have lost on the last four occasions in the league and FA Cup.
“Of course I want to be involved, but you’d have to ask the manager whether I’m going to be involved,” said Townsend.
“I know, even though we’ve not been in the best form of late, that all the boys are confident. We’re a confident group so we’re not going to be going there thinking we’ve not won in four years.
“We’re going to go there with confidence sky high and knowing, believing we can get a result if we’re playing well.”
Andros TownsendBy Ben Pearce, Tottenham correspondentFriday, September 26, 2014
12:00 PM
Andros Townsend is convinced he can be a hit in Mauricio Pochettino’s new system but says he needs time to reach top form and give the head coach what he is looking for.
After a strong start to last season for club and country, Townsend’s campaign was disrupted by injuries – the last of which ruled him out of the World Cup.
The winger has found himself in Spurs’ second-string side so far this campaign, with his three starts coming in the Europa League and Capital One Cup, alongside two substitute appearances in the Premier League.
Townsend has been playing on the right flank in Pochettino’s 4-2-3-1 system – and his role seems very similar to how Andre Villas-Boas set his team up, with the two wide men coming inside.
However, the 23-year-old says there are important differences and he is having to adapt his game to suit the new tactics.
“I prefer being on the right side,” said Townsend. “The manager’s formation is new to me but I’m learning. We’ve had some chats about how he wants me to play and I’m trying to implement that when I go out on the field. It’s going to take time but I know I can fit into this formation.”
Asked how Pochettino’s system differs from Villas-Boas’, the winger replied: “He likes his players to come inside, to get through on goal more as opposed to staying wide and taking on the player one v one.
“It’s definitely something I’ve got to learn but I’m young enough and I’m hoping to learn so hopefully I can get there.
“I think I’m improving in every game. Of course I’m not where I want to be at the moment but I’m getting games under my belt. I’m slowly getting my fitness better and with every game I’m improving.
“Hopefully, with a few more games in the Europa League and the cup games, I might be ready to challenge for a Premier League spot.”
Townsend came through the youth ranks at Tottenham and was loaned to nine other clubs before making his breakthrough at Spurs.
Another product of the Lilywhites’ youth system, Ryan Mason, has also had to bide his time before announcing himself at White Hart Lane this week.
Mason made his Tottenham debut as a 17-year-old in November 2008 but has played just four games for the Lilywhites since then, having loan spells at Yeovil, Doncaster, Millwall, French club Lorient and Swindon in the meantime.
Now 23 years old, the midfielder impressed Pochettino in pre-season. And, although an injury ruined his chance to stay in the first-team squad at the start of the campaign, he came off the bench in Wednesday’s Capital One Cup tie against Nottingham Forest and promptly hit a 30-yard equaliser – his first goal for the club - as Spurs came from behind to win 3-1.
Townsend said: “It’s only when Ryan Mason came on that we opened them up. I think he deserved the goal and his performance and hopefully now he can be a big player for us.
“Everyone knows Ryan’s a talented player, he’s just had some unfortunate injuries. I think he was our best player in pre-season and then he got injured - but now he’s back to full fitness and everyone saw how good he is.
“Everyone nowadays knows they’ve got to be patient and go out on loan and bide their time – and now I think he’s got a manager here who believes in his ability, and hopefully his talent will shine through.”
Tottenham are through to the last 16 of the League Cup – which was their last trophy in 2008 – and they have been given a home draw against Brighton.
“We’ve got a big squad, we’ve got a young squad,” said Townsend. “I think the manager made 11 changes and you saw we had international players in the squad, so we’ve got strength in depth and hopefully the ‘second team’ that the manager puts out can go far in this competition.
“It’s another home draw, it’s another Championship side. We can’t take anything for granted. Nottingham Forest was a home draw and a Championship side and they took us all the way so we know it’s going to be another difficult game, but one we’re looking forward to.”
Tottenham now turn their attention to tomorrow’s north London derby against Woolwich at the Emirates, a fixture they have lost on the last four occasions in the league and FA Cup.
“Of course I want to be involved, but you’d have to ask the manager whether I’m going to be involved,” said Townsend.
“I know, even though we’ve not been in the best form of late, that all the boys are confident. We’re a confident group so we’re not going to be going there thinking we’ve not won in four years.
“We’re going to go there with confidence sky high and knowing, believing we can get a result if we’re playing well.”
Very nice quotes, he's clearly got a good head on his shoulders and he knows he's not on his best form but he seems to think he has more to give so I can't wait to see it.http://www.tottenhamjournal.co.uk/t..._my_role_in_pochettino_s_new_system_1_3784968
By Ben Pearce, Tottenham correspondentFriday, September 26, 2014
12:00 PM
Andros Townsend is convinced he can be a hit in Mauricio Pochettino’s new system but says he needs time to reach top form and give the head coach what he is looking for.
After a strong start to last season for club and country, Townsend’s campaign was disrupted by injuries – the last of which ruled him out of the World Cup.
The winger has found himself in Spurs’ second-string side so far this campaign, with his three starts coming in the Europa League and Capital One Cup, alongside two substitute appearances in the Premier League.
Townsend has been playing on the right flank in Pochettino’s 4-2-3-1 system – and his role seems very similar to how Andre Villas-Boas set his team up, with the two wide men coming inside.
However, the 23-year-old says there are important differences and he is having to adapt his game to suit the new tactics.
“I prefer being on the right side,” said Townsend. “The manager’s formation is new to me but I’m learning. We’ve had some chats about how he wants me to play and I’m trying to implement that when I go out on the field. It’s going to take time but I know I can fit into this formation.”
Asked how Pochettino’s system differs from Villas-Boas’, the winger replied: “He likes his players to come inside, to get through on goal more as opposed to staying wide and taking on the player one v one.
“It’s definitely something I’ve got to learn but I’m young enough and I’m hoping to learn so hopefully I can get there.
“I think I’m improving in every game. Of course I’m not where I want to be at the moment but I’m getting games under my belt. I’m slowly getting my fitness better and with every game I’m improving.
“Hopefully, with a few more games in the Europa League and the cup games, I might be ready to challenge for a Premier League spot.”
Townsend came through the youth ranks at Tottenham and was loaned to nine other clubs before making his breakthrough at Spurs.
Another product of the Lilywhites’ youth system, Ryan Mason, has also had to bide his time before announcing himself at White Hart Lane this week.
Mason made his Tottenham debut as a 17-year-old in November 2008 but has played just four games for the Lilywhites since then, having loan spells at Yeovil, Doncaster, Millwall, French club Lorient and Swindon in the meantime.
Now 23 years old, the midfielder impressed Pochettino in pre-season. And, although an injury ruined his chance to stay in the first-team squad at the start of the campaign, he came off the bench in Wednesday’s Capital One Cup tie against Nottingham Forest and promptly hit a 30-yard equaliser – his first goal for the club - as Spurs came from behind to win 3-1.
Townsend said: “It’s only when Ryan Mason came on that we opened them up. I think he deserved the goal and his performance and hopefully now he can be a big player for us.
“Everyone knows Ryan’s a talented player, he’s just had some unfortunate injuries. I think he was our best player in pre-season and then he got injured - but now he’s back to full fitness and everyone saw how good he is.
“Everyone nowadays knows they’ve got to be patient and go out on loan and bide their time – and now I think he’s got a manager here who believes in his ability, and hopefully his talent will shine through.”
Tottenham are through to the last 16 of the League Cup – which was their last trophy in 2008 – and they have been given a home draw against Brighton.
“We’ve got a big squad, we’ve got a young squad,” said Townsend. “I think the manager made 11 changes and you saw we had international players in the squad, so we’ve got strength in depth and hopefully the ‘second team’ that the manager puts out can go far in this competition.
“It’s another home draw, it’s another Championship side. We can’t take anything for granted. Nottingham Forest was a home draw and a Championship side and they took us all the way so we know it’s going to be another difficult game, but one we’re looking forward to.”
Tottenham now turn their attention to tomorrow’s north London derby against Woolwich at the Emirates, a fixture they have lost on the last four occasions in the league and FA Cup.
“Of course I want to be involved, but you’d have to ask the manager whether I’m going to be involved,” said Townsend.
“I know, even though we’ve not been in the best form of late, that all the boys are confident. We’re a confident group so we’re not going to be going there thinking we’ve not won in four years.
“We’re going to go there with confidence sky high and knowing, believing we can get a result if we’re playing well.”
Also nice to see his comments about Mason and really does seem like the players coming through our ranks have a bond.
He's such a bright guy, you'd think he'd be a bit more of a thoughtful player. Hopefully it's just an inexperience thing and he'll work through it. He just hit 50 top flight appearances, still so much more development potential.
If my calculations are correct (unlikely), he has now had 70 shots since his last goal (a misjudged cross v. Villa).
Dude sucks. No better than Downing imo.
Dude sucks. No better than Downing imo.
Eh?
I thought this was where the cutting inside problem started, under AVB. I want to see Lennon and Townsend taking on the full backs and getting down the line....under AVB they both started cutting in and this leads to all the shots outside the box.
http://www.tottenhamjournal.co.uk/t..._my_role_in_pochettino_s_new_system_1_3784968
By Ben Pearce, Tottenham correspondentFriday, September 26, 2014
12:00 PM
Andros Townsend is convinced he can be a hit in Mauricio Pochettino’s new system but says he needs time to reach top form and give the head coach what he is looking for.
After a strong start to last season for club and country, Townsend’s campaign was disrupted by injuries – the last of which ruled him out of the World Cup.
The winger has found himself in Spurs’ second-string side so far this campaign, with his three starts coming in the Europa League and Capital One Cup, alongside two substitute appearances in the Premier League.
Townsend has been playing on the right flank in Pochettino’s 4-2-3-1 system – and his role seems very similar to how Andre Villas-Boas set his team up, with the two wide men coming inside.
However, the 23-year-old says there are important differences and he is having to adapt his game to suit the new tactics.
“I prefer being on the right side,” said Townsend. “The manager’s formation is new to me but I’m learning. We’ve had some chats about how he wants me to play and I’m trying to implement that when I go out on the field. It’s going to take time but I know I can fit into this formation.”
Asked how Pochettino’s system differs from Villas-Boas’, the winger replied: “He likes his players to come inside, to get through on goal more as opposed to staying wide and taking on the player one v one.
“It’s definitely something I’ve got to learn but I’m young enough and I’m hoping to learn so hopefully I can get there.
“I think I’m improving in every game. Of course I’m not where I want to be at the moment but I’m getting games under my belt. I’m slowly getting my fitness better and with every game I’m improving.
“Hopefully, with a few more games in the Europa League and the cup games, I might be ready to challenge for a Premier League spot.”
Townsend came through the youth ranks at Tottenham and was loaned to nine other clubs before making his breakthrough at Spurs.
Another product of the Lilywhites’ youth system, Ryan Mason, has also had to bide his time before announcing himself at White Hart Lane this week.
Mason made his Tottenham debut as a 17-year-old in November 2008 but has played just four games for the Lilywhites since then, having loan spells at Yeovil, Doncaster, Millwall, French club Lorient and Swindon in the meantime.
Now 23 years old, the midfielder impressed Pochettino in pre-season. And, although an injury ruined his chance to stay in the first-team squad at the start of the campaign, he came off the bench in Wednesday’s Capital One Cup tie against Nottingham Forest and promptly hit a 30-yard equaliser – his first goal for the club - as Spurs came from behind to win 3-1.
Townsend said: “It’s only when Ryan Mason came on that we opened them up. I think he deserved the goal and his performance and hopefully now he can be a big player for us.
“Everyone knows Ryan’s a talented player, he’s just had some unfortunate injuries. I think he was our best player in pre-season and then he got injured - but now he’s back to full fitness and everyone saw how good he is.
“Everyone nowadays knows they’ve got to be patient and go out on loan and bide their time – and now I think he’s got a manager here who believes in his ability, and hopefully his talent will shine through.”
Tottenham are through to the last 16 of the League Cup – which was their last trophy in 2008 – and they have been given a home draw against Brighton.
“We’ve got a big squad, we’ve got a young squad,” said Townsend. “I think the manager made 11 changes and you saw we had international players in the squad, so we’ve got strength in depth and hopefully the ‘second team’ that the manager puts out can go far in this competition.
“It’s another home draw, it’s another Championship side. We can’t take anything for granted. Nottingham Forest was a home draw and a Championship side and they took us all the way so we know it’s going to be another difficult game, but one we’re looking forward to.”
Tottenham now turn their attention to tomorrow’s north London derby against Woolwich at the Emirates, a fixture they have lost on the last four occasions in the league and FA Cup.
“Of course I want to be involved, but you’d have to ask the manager whether I’m going to be involved,” said Townsend.
“I know, even though we’ve not been in the best form of late, that all the boys are confident. We’re a confident group so we’re not going to be going there thinking we’ve not won in four years.
“We’re going to go there with confidence sky high and knowing, believing we can get a result if we’re playing well.”
I feel really bad now.....
Seems like a decent young bloke and there was never any doubting his work rate. Its obvious he works hard in training, and that he wants to better himself, so if he plays on Thursday, lets hope for an assist and/or a goal and see if he can kick on from there.
Yeah, exactly. He's a nice kid, huge spurs fan, works hard and came from the academy. It hasn't quite clicked for him yet but he's young and still has minimal experience at the top level. He can be super frustrating to watch but with his age and ability you could do a lot worse for back up player.
He's 23, not 19 - his formative years and well and truly over and he's now entered his asset years. Failing a miracle, I would say this season would be last chance to prove a regular place in a Top 6 PL club. I'm sure he can find regular PL action although in the bottom half of the table most likely.
The general consensus on a footballer and athlete's prime is between the ages of 26-31. The problem with Levy and Spurs is we are always buying young players (which is good) but we seemingly sell them or give up on them before they reach a prime and experienced age. Our current set of players is super young and needs time to develop and play together. Townsend has only played fifty top flight games. In comparison, Eriksen has played 168. Development isn't just down to age but rather experience. He has plenty of time left for potential development before he reaches his potential peak. He is currently a backup, as a rotational player we really couldn't do too much better. Maybe he won't end up panning out but that doesn't mean that giving a player with his natural ability a chance to prove it was a bad choice.
We get you don't like Townsend, Bentaleb, and Adebayor. Give it a rest.
Far be it from me to get too involved in this. But Arcy may undervalue those certain players. But, you could also argue you overrate the youngsters. Carroll we've discussed, Bentaleb you said last year has potential to be World class. Townsend imo, will never be good enough for us as a starter. Mason on the other hand I think is worthy of such adulation. But we do need to see players for what they are, not what we want them to be.
I liked Tom Carroll because we desperately needed a passer in the center of field as Mason has proved. Bentaleb is 19 and is still looking solid in World Cup and Premier League games. All I've said about Townsend is he is a fine BACK UP with the some upside that he may or may not reach. I'm hardly being absurd about my expectations for Andros.
You just can't seem get over me liking Tom Carroll haha. Also, the whole we need to see players as they are thing is absurd. You can be positive about a young players development without causing some sort of detriment as you seem to be suggesting. People say crazy things about Lamela and Eriksen all the time but if you say something positive about an academy player it is an entirely different standard.
There is no 'general' such consensus - athlete at 31? Pace and agility starts decreasing after 25-26 onwards in most males. I never said we shouldn't give him a chance, read my post again - this is season is last chance salon for me as far his 'development' goes. At 24 next year he would have to make some serious career decisions.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/what-age-premier-league-players-3934704
25-30 would have probably been the more apt summation of peak in footballers. Still all I suggested is that Townsend is an inexperienced player who flashes clear top class ability at times—though not at all consistently—and that for the moment he is a decent backup player to have.
It's not something to ''get over''. You said he was not only going to our future Xavi, but wanted him over other established players. You said Bentaleb will be World class. Let's have it right, both are way wide of the mark.
The ''crazy'' thing about Lamela and Eriksen is they achieved notable things that deserved such accolades. None of the players you suggest have. There's positivity, then there is delusion.
Of course Lamela and Eriksen are entirely different standards to Carroll, Bentaleb and Townsend, absurd to suggest otherwise.
Not sure how Mason has proved anything atm either. Especially considering I brought his name up in our previous discussions about Carroll, saying I rated him higher. I'll say what I said to you then, we shouldn't pidgeon hole any of these players and let them grow without the pressure of expectation. Carroll blossomed until the pressure came and he regressed, same with Townsend and now there are worrying signs with Nabil (although I reckon he'll handle it better). Let the players be who they are and not suggest they will or are better than they are. Football and Spurs' history is littered with players overcome by the pressure...Dorian Dervitte, Terry Dixon, Tomas Pekhart...the list goes on.
Honestly, can you tell me that Townsend is any better than Stuart Downing?