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Management Ange: In/Out?
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It really isn’t the second best attack. No point beating Everton 4-0, Southampton 5-0, City 4-0, West Ham 4-1 and then not being able to score a goal when you really need it. And the goal difference is dropping fast. Part of the reason why we have scored a lot of goals is also because I guess that we have gone out all out attack in a lot of matches without getting the balance right between the attack and defence. We are currently on target to concede 60+ goals like we did last season.
Well, about 7 managers have just done that
1 win in 9 and that's one of the best squads we have in recent decades, how can't you see the óbvios? He's shite! Look at his tactics, if there's any, that's just pub football. With a proper manager we'll be in top 4 by now.
But are they any good?
United were where we are when Amorim came in, he's having a rocky start I'll grant you but is a good coach and will bring them up from where Ten Hag had them, where to is anyone's guess but it's definitely an improvement, as evidenced by their recent credible results vs Woolwich and Liverpool. We are a big club with a lot of resources massively underperforming, if anything we actually represent an attractive prospect to the right kind of coach because they will be judged on what has come immediately before them, not the overall picture for the next 12-18 months. People always trot out this line as if it's a legitimate reason to stick with a failing coach, it just isn't, are we all happy to be a bottom half side considering our recent history, facilities and financial standing in the league? No, because it doesn't fucking make sense. It's time to twist, sticking is insanity at this point.
I'm not going to change your mind or anyone else's, but do you really think this is true? Does a great squad have two 18 year old's the starting XI every week? Or multiple players constantly out of position?
If we combine it with the two other greatest squads I've seen in my lifetime (2011 under Redknapp, 2017 under Poch) - I've bolded the player who I'd say is the best (up for debate but most I think are at least agreeable) and 2025 I don't think gets a player in, in most cases it's not even second best. And that's with our best team, not the one we've actually had to play all year.
Gomes v Lloris v Vicario
Corluka v Walker v Porro
King v Alderweireld v Romero
Dawson v Vertonghen v Van de Ven
Assou-Ekotto v Rose v Udogie
Palacios v Wanyama v Bissouma
Modric v Dembele v Sarr
Van de Vaart v Dele v Kulusevski
Lennon v Eriksen v Johnson
Bale v Son v Son
Crouch v Kane v Solanke
The squad is okay, we've got some good young players and a couple (Romero, VDV, Kulusevski) who are right on the edge of being stars of this club, but those other two sides had some of the greatest players in world football in their positions over the past couple decades.
If I was a good coach/manager I'd be reluctant to take over the mess that is Spurs. Man United have a winning history and are a global heavyweight.
If you're not trolling you should be sectioned
If you were looking at the Tottenham Hotspur job purely based on current form and recruitment and thinking "no thanks", don't you don't think any manager looking at United as a prospective job isn't looking at their ropey history of recruitment in the last 10 years and going "I'm not fucking touching that with a 10 foot barge pole"? No, they aren't, because mostly what managers will look at is the resources they will have at their disposal, most managers aren't going to associate themselves with our history of failure, they will simply be thinking "I can go in and do a job there and get them up the table, even if it goes tits up in a few years I will be dining at a better table when it comes down to courting offers afterwards".
Poch got jobs at PSG and Chelsea and now has a glamour role at the US national team. Managers like Iraola are very likely to look at his situation when he joined and how they can mirror him, especially easy given most people can plainly see our squad is much better than our position in the table reflects. You seem to be forgetting this is a career for these people, of course managers want to win trophies but it's not the be all and end all for every single one of them, if a move to Spurs represents an upward trajectory in their career path most managers will jump at the chance to further their career, same way players will.
The point remains that United are a global heavyweight and Spurs aren't. We've won virtually fuck all since the 1980s. They can attract better players than we can and they pay higher wages.
Iraola - maybe next season starting with a clean slate, I don't see why he'd want to manage us now, in this situation, Bournemouth are 10 points ahead of us.
Because we'd multiply his salary by five overnight
The only people who are still Ange in now are those that cant admit they were wrong.
Fine to back the manager as a fan up until a point, but that point was a long time ago.
Fine to back the manager as a fan up until a point, but that point was a long time ago.
Some yes, e.g. Moyes and Potter are clear improvements. Amorim maybe...The others I don't know/care.
But you're now moving the goalposts.
Spurs could get plenty of better managers in at short notice, even if only for the rest of the season.
Maybe he thinks he can do better come the end of the season? There's other teams around such as Newcastle or Villa that might be interested then.
If you think we are going to finish top 6 I have some tartan paint and bubbles for spirit levels to sell ya
Whose going to leave their current team at this stage of the season to manage Spurs on short notice? Or are you referring to unemployed managers? Someone from the lower leagues?
That's no excuse for the club to not try. Put the money on the table for Bournemouth to release him, but a massive contract on the table for him and see what he says.
To dare is to do, after all.
Do you think Klopp or Pep would have left their jobs if we put more money on the table than they were getting at Liverpool/City?